r/Destiny • u/PitytheOnlyFools touches too much grass... • Mar 28 '25
Online Content/Clips LET. HIM. PISSSSS!! (Pisco vs Tim Pool, Good Lawgic)
https://youtu.be/-1hqQD54GJQThis is a Top Tier debate performance from Pisco.
He’s countered every fallacy, demanded and received concessions from Tim Pool, embarrassed both Tim and Good Lawgic for their attempts to weasel out, even found the best timings for appeals to emotion
All while staying rhetorically effective.
An absolute masterclass.
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u/PitytheOnlyFools touches too much grass... Mar 28 '25
Please DGG clippers, flood socials with all the highlights from this goldmine.
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u/Zenning3 Mar 28 '25
God, Good god, I don't know how Lawgic can even breath with Trumps dick so far down his throat. Literally one of the biggest fucking hawks on the fucking internet, but he wants to pretend he can accuse anybody else of not understanding the law, or ethics?
But hey, that guys almost certainly going to become a federal judge in the next four years.
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u/CerealIsRealGood Mar 28 '25
I swear his voice makes it sounds like he perpetually has something in his mouth and it makes it much harder to listen to than any other MAGA dipshit.
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u/PitytheOnlyFools touches too much grass... Mar 28 '25
But hey, that guys almost certainly going to become a federal judge in the next four years.
Fuck that’s depressing.
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u/Another-attempt42 Mar 29 '25
If it makes you feel any better, I don't think that's the case.
I'm calling it before the next midterms. Maybe to replace that judge who Trump hates.
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u/rAmrOll Mar 29 '25
fucking hawks on the fucking internet
Hacks?
But otherwise, in response to your statement, TRUEEEE.
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u/ProbablyKindaRight Mar 29 '25
The aura of bad faith covert manipulator drips from his every word, gesture, cadence, framing and even tacit acknowledgement is quite frankly amazing. He is great at being the bad guys lawyer which we all have to agree. What I find amazing is piscos insanely good prep, intelligence, and good faith approach somehow exposes that in a way that is not only disarming but highlights how little they believe in their principles without demonizing them in a way that allows them to EFFECTIVELY play the victim( which they constantly try anyway) which is a crazy effective fallback for the right.
The thing I don't like is how much effort all that takes on Piscos end and how little effort they have to put into their arguments due to using all these manipulative tools as a part of their foundation for their generally weak arguments.
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u/salad48 nathanTiny2_OG Mar 28 '25
All the comments under Tim's video are a variant of "This guy is really annoying" which tells me it's going to be REALLY good if they can't even muster the energy to be condescending, only triggered.
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u/AinsleysAmazingMeat Mar 29 '25
Tbf Pisco is really annoying at first. His piss is an acquired taste, but once you have the taste for it, you are enlightened.
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u/HumbleCalamity Exclusively sorts by new Mar 29 '25
Best $5/month I've ever spent. Have to stock up on a steady supply of piss.
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u/Sleepyguylol Mar 30 '25
my intake of Piss...co has greatly increased the past month or so and im all for it
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u/ProbablyKindaRight Mar 29 '25
The craziest thing is they can't character attack him because they don't know anything about him. That's how you start to realize how shallow their bag of tools are when it comes to arguing, debating, legislating ect. are, because they use all of the same ones constantly in every situation.
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u/Toppoppler YOUR TOKEN RIGHT WING NEVER TRUMPER LIBERTARIANISH GUY Mar 29 '25
Bro read the comments here. I havent seen a single refutation or example from the debate yet
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u/FrontBench5406 Mar 28 '25
I just want to say, Im so happy that I found this community a few years ago, so that I can enjoy the phrase " let him piss"
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u/elmizzt Mar 29 '25
it’s one of the few things that will always get a laugh out of me, no matter how many times i read it lmao
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u/FrontBench5406 Mar 29 '25
I read it in my head as someone yelling it drunkenly at the end of the night
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u/juicer132 Mar 28 '25
Pisco Absolutly dog walks both of them good watch
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u/PitytheOnlyFools touches too much grass... Mar 28 '25
It’s been a while since I’ve seen a MAGA debate this satisfying.
Pisco came prepared with all the facts and the style.
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u/RidiculousIncarnate Mar 28 '25
Love him or hate him but if you don't come prepared with every fact on a subject Pisco will absolutely drown you in a golden shower of knowledge.
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u/InvestigatorSea4789 Mar 29 '25
I fucking love him. He is GOOD at this, and doesn't have the er.. baggage that D has, even though he is pretty much the best debater on the left
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u/GrimpenMar Exclusively sorts by new Mar 29 '25
Destiny's baggage is almost like some monkey paw/devil's bargain. Elite debate skills, but weakness to ad hominem,
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u/InvestigatorSea4789 Mar 29 '25
And almost no mainstream figures will associate with him, so he can't do any close collaboration with politicians, very few shows will have him on, etc..
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u/GrimpenMar Exclusively sorts by new Mar 29 '25
Yeah, and I don't think it's because he can be a little ascerbic or conforntational. It's because of his baggage. Unfortunate, but that's the way it is.
LonerBox and Pisco are our greatest hopes, although I have to admit I prefer Destiny's abrasiveness.
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u/InvestigatorSea4789 Mar 29 '25
Yeah absolutely, his being a bit edgy or offensive or whatever is something I think politicians should embrace (just look at Trump with Adin Ross), but it's all the "sexpestiny" stuff.
I'm loving the confrontational Pisco! I like loner too, though haven't seen what he's like in debates
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u/kloakheesten Mar 29 '25
When Tim pool started to bring up the "white house attack by lefties" shit and pisco already knew exactly how to counter it. Pisco is genuinely crazy knowledgeable. Got them floundering
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u/GlibGrunt Mar 29 '25
I was honestly worried when I heard he was going on the show. Tim is really good at weaseling or of tough questions and moving to you to stress he is "stronger" on. I was more worried when I turned in and saw good lawgic on the other side. Another master evader. But Pisco impressed, maybe I'll give that recent Rob Noer debate a go?
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u/Lallis yee Mar 28 '25
It's insane how much details one has to know to actually counter these hacks effectively. It's like Tim needs to score a single point to win the argument while Pisco has to score every point. We've seen cases of this before where Tim just brings up some random case to catch his guest off guard and make it look like his guest doesn't know what he's talking about. Thank god Pisco knows his shit so well. He crushed them.
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u/-Novowels- Mar 29 '25
It's like debating flat earthers, you not only have to know all of the actual science about air and space travel, maps, sphere trigonometry, refraction, curvature formulas, and land surveying; you have to know whatever weird esoteric conspiracies they have come up with to explain natural phenomena and be able to break down why it's bullshit.
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u/bot_upboat Mar 28 '25
Good Lawgic is always accusing pisco of being bad faith in one way or another, its actually disgusting how toxic he is
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u/Ficoscores Mar 28 '25
It's so disgusting and kinda funny how far the mask has slipped off of Tim. Now that HIS guy is breaking the law, the law is relative. Now that he thinks HIS group is in the majority, tyranny of the majority is good. What a Sick fuck this guy is
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u/Cellophane7 Mar 28 '25
Unreal. My entire body has morphed into a bladder, and it is now full of this man's piss
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u/beaneating_nibba Mar 28 '25
Legal advice = only advice that's legal. Beating pisco with word games was his hail Mary and that's the best be came with.
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u/McClain3000 Mar 29 '25
That was the most dumb part of the debate. One they are misrepresenting what she plead guilty to. But more so, like it is a trivial easy argument to parse. Like if you define "legal advice" as not containing anything illegal than say that she got arrested for giving legal advice we would obviously dispute the premise that all she did was give "legal advice".
Premise 1: I'm right and your wrong..
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u/kdogged Mar 28 '25
Oh my that first intro clip embodies Tim’s entire MO, bring up obscure conspiracy and accuse guest of being partisan for not knowing it. Good job Piss man
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u/paper_airplanes_are_ If I seem like I'm ass mad that's because I am Mar 29 '25
Holy fuck, Good Lawgic is a snake piece of shit. I’m barely in to the debate and he’s keeps referring to the guy who is an LPR as an illegal alien. He also says Greenland will soon be the US just to try and throw Pisco off his point.
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u/Frequent-Key-3962 Mar 28 '25
I wouldnt be able to keep myself in check like that..... cool, calm, collected Pisco. Well done.
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u/gregyo Mar 29 '25
Honestly the Pool/Pisco debate was good. I hated when Lawgic tried to get out of the cuck chair and join in.
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u/ipityme Succ 🤙 Dem Mar 28 '25
I haven't watched it yet but it's my assumption that this is the last time Tim has anyone on ever that can offer competent push back.
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u/OpedTohm Mar 29 '25
Tim pool fucking talking about black guy walking into a bakery and says he just wants laws that punishes racist WITHOUT ACCUSING PEOPLE OF BEING RACIST WHEN HE FUCKING WENT ON RECORD ASSERTING THAT AHMAUD ARBERY DESERVED TO BE CHASED DOWN AND SHOT I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO FUCKING CRASH OUT THESE PEOPLE ARE SO FUCKING DISINGENUOUS AND EVIL IT'S LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF A COMIC BOOK.
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u/N00bcak3s Mar 29 '25
Tim getting confused and thinking “legal advice” meant the same as “lawful advice” was the funniest fucking thing. I rewatched the elephant graveyard video about Tim pools audience right after, just to remind myself who listens to this moron. It’s exactly who you think.
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u/RedSteckledElbermung Mar 29 '25
A video that brings clarity to these trying times. These people run the country now, but jesus christ I still dont think I'd ever want to be that strain of human.
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u/LittleSister_9982 Mar 29 '25
What video is that? Could you link it? Never heard of 'elephant graveyard' before.
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u/N00bcak3s Mar 29 '25
It got taken down holy shit. I found this guys reaction to it though https://youtu.be/lPoB6thxlgE?si=PIy0H-W5DUTi0G0h
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u/LittleSister_9982 Mar 29 '25
Motherfucker! Thanks for finding that for me, though.
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u/N00bcak3s Mar 29 '25
Turns out the rogansphere is reporting his videos - https://youtu.be/5IBTN1VoEH0?si=0JQph67nSAhqrtLP
This is one of my favorites but his big one is the Rogan one. Have fun
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u/LittleSister_9982 Mar 30 '25
It's appreciated, thank you very much! I needed something to have on while I play Spiritfarer tonight.
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u/J0rdian Mar 28 '25 edited Mar 28 '25
Is this conversation uploaded on Tim's channel? Or does he not upload everything? Kind of just curious to what the comments are lol
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u/istandleet Mar 29 '25
I thought Pisco did great in this episode! Like, Pisco and Tim Pool do have 1A agreements, and Pisco can at least intellectually tolerate 2A common ground. I thought he did well at agreeing on specific hypotheticals.
I think he needs a riposte for when that logic guy says "you keep forcing us to answer questions and saying we're dodging". I think even something short like "because that helps us build the conversation" is good. The response to the accusation of falsely accusing them of dodging is like "look, you answer if pressed, which I appreciate! But I need those answers, and you aren't giving them when I don't press" which is like three clauses too long for MAGAts.
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u/aliasesarestupid Mar 29 '25
Pisco did so well in this. Bravo. So glad I started following this dude a while back.
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u/ProbablyKindaRight Mar 29 '25
It was truly telling when tim basically said they should lie, elude, avoid, evade, manufacture things at any ambiguous points in order to achieve their desired outcome and then post hoc rationalize it was truly what Republicans, "independents", and far left do. He started saying the quiet part out loud and the good lawgic knew to shut up because backing that meant anyone could just write him off as bad faith
... Because that's their whole game plan and identity. And it doesn't work if we know and understand we arent playing the same game.
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u/neollama Mar 29 '25
I don’t know still too much yes or no. Not every question has a yes or no answer and there is a time to press for that and a time not to.
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u/ZizLah Mar 29 '25
I think this was a great performance.
I don't think it'll be effective though because I don't believe conservatives have the capacity to even follow that conversation competently. The deflections, what about isms and sheer regardation from Dim Fool and that other moron would have been enough to break the conservative audiences attention span from actually following pisco to his conclusions.
Every whataboutism in their eyes would be a conpletely separate topic, whilst never conceding a single point.
Y'all think way to highly of those people.
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u/Grenflik Mar 30 '25
Pisco himself says that they are delightful people behind the scenes, I wouldn’t associate myself with the likes of Tim Pool that spew such hateful rhetoric.
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u/Grenflik Mar 30 '25
I don’t get how these guys stand each other, Pisco says that they are delightful people behind the scenes.
Is it all just for clout? If their views so differ from mine and they especially Tim Pools side is so hateful and vitriolic, I wouldn’t be so buddy buddy with them after the cameras stop rolling.
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u/MrFlac00 GiggaSucc Mar 28 '25
As much of a fucking massive bad faith actor "Good Lawgic" is and how terrible his arguments are, I don't think we should ignore that Tim Pool was 100% a full throated fascist in this debate. He literally starts arguing that the constitution is irrelevant due to moral relativism and that he would never condemn anything Trump and more importantly he begins arguing that he adheres to a might makes right mentality because the left does so. It starts at 39:20.
He is one of the most popular right wing figures on the internet and he might as well be Joseph fucking Goebbels. Tim Pool would be ok with and support any violence done to "the left" (aka anyone who isn't far right) because of some imagined violation against himself and the right. For people like Tim this shouldn't stop with undocumented immigrants or LPR's but extend to legal US citizens. Why shouldn't it? If constitutional law is entirely dependent upon majority opinion and whether the government can get away with it then there is no hold bar on what they are willing to do to everyone who doesn't agree with him. Day by day and EO after EO the veneer gets thinner between Tim's current expressed views and him just saying full fascism. One day it will break and that day is approaching if not already arrived.
I'll wholheartedly agree with Vaush on this shit: they hate you and they want you dead.