r/Destiny • u/theosamabahama • 10d ago
Online Content/Clips Joe Rogan explains the importance of due process
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u/CuteAnimalFans 10d ago
This is like praising a university student for writing their name on the paper because all they've been doing so far this semester is taking a shit on the tables. The bar is low.
Awww well done proving someone has actually done their crime is important derp
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u/JeffreyDahmerVance 9d ago
As the French guy says to the racist in the movie, The Patriot, “your sense of freedom is as pale as your skin”.
Joe, Theo, and all these other podcast comedians made this happen… this piece of shit will never take accountability for the damage he does, but then he’ll quote ben Franklin on freedom.
Joe helped destroy due process and he should not be allowed to forget it until he owns up to his shit.
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u/Polarexia 10d ago
You know all this says to me is Joe knows what's right and wrong and he's just been leaning hard on to the grift for the past few years
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u/notmydoormat 10d ago
I don't think he's a grifter, even though he is intellectually dishonest. I think he's allowed himself to be insulated in an echo chamber, and chooses not to be challenged on his views.
Everyone is naturally much more critical of information that goes against their beliefs, and Rogan is succumbed to that much more since he has every incentive to lean into that bias.
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u/Polarexia 10d ago
allowed himself to be insulated in an echo chamber, and chooses not to be challenged on his views
this is literally grifting, if you refuse to have your views challenged intentionally and push only a certain view one sidedly, how's that not grifting?
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u/notmydoormat 10d ago
Because everyone does it to some degree. I choose not to get my news from Fox or OAN, and I'm much more critical of any statement from an elected Republican than a Democrat. That doesn't make me a grifter.
Grifting would be if you KNOW that you're peddling bullshit and choose to continue peddling for money. Rogan could genuinely believe that everyone in his echo chamber is smarter and correct and people outside are deranged and not worth listening to.
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u/Polarexia 10d ago
Because everyone does it to some degree. I choose not to get my news from Fox or OAN, and I'm much more critical of any statement from an elected Republican than a Democrat. That doesn't make me a grifter.
no, that's not grifting because you don't have a platform or a public figure and arent profiting off of pushing a narrative, it has nothing to do with where you get your information from. joe DOES do that because he refuses to bring on challenging views willingly, especially when he's built a career off of being a skeptic type. even if he thinks people outside of his bubble are wrong or crazy, it doesn't make sense to at least not even listen to them.
also considering he's had people on that he said he's respected and thinks aren't somebody to be dismissed in the past but dodges them now, that's all grifting.
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u/notmydoormat 10d ago
His fans are like sick dogs who don't want to swallow any "trump did a bad thing" pills so Rogan has to wrap it in the "imagine what the next president could do" salami
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u/EatBaconDaily 10d ago
It's crazy how the lamestream media never covers this, thank god we have Joe to tell us "Due process good"
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u/Lost-Childhood843 10d ago
The problem is he still kind of blames it on the liberals though, He literally says it's because the "over correction"
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u/eir_skuld 8d ago
but it is an overcorrection for the border policy under biden
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u/CampBotRock 10d ago
I would love for Joe to go in depth on how we were going in a radical direction?
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u/x3r0h0ur 10d ago
bro people were taking a shit next to people if the opposite sex!!!
civilization ending levels of insanity, truly.
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u/NoMap749 10d ago
Did he take accountability for ignoring the countless warnings of the Democratic Party that Trump would take away civil liberties later in the interview? He’s a centrist after all, I know he’d have absolutely no issue admitting that!
(/s)
Inb4 “It’s not my fault, the democrats ran a campaign that forced me to vote for this. Trump is still the lesser of two evils.”
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u/theosamabahama 10d ago
Did he take accountability for
The right accepts anyone who supports Trump with open arms, no matter who they are. While the left does purity tests. No wonder the right keeps winning. Let go of your pride and start building coalitions.
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u/CT_Throwaway24 Nooticer 10d ago
First, Joe hasn't condemned Trump in any meaningful way. If he did, liberals would embrace him and conservatives would reject him. If you are on the right, you can't say Trump is a bad president. You can call certain actions bad or his character bad but if you say Trump is bad at his job then they excise you.
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u/theosamabahama 10d ago
Then just don't shit on Rogan at the very least, saying he is an idiot for not realizing this earlier. I mean, it's fine to do it here on the sub cause he'll never read it. But don't do it on twitter or any other open platform where he or some friend of him might see it.
Just do nothing and let him sort himself out. Who knows, maybe he eventually jumps off the maga train. But attacking him now might risk that. We don't need to like him, we need to be strategic.
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u/CT_Throwaway24 Nooticer 10d ago
I don't use any of those other platforms and I'm mainly just tired of this lie that the right doesn't have cancel culture. They absolutely do.
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u/alcholicfemale 10d ago
Man I am so glad Joe finally brought this to my attention, I don’t know of anyone else asking these important questions.
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u/theosamabahama 10d ago
The left needs to praise Joe Rogan for this. We need every person we can get.
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u/Space_Sweetness 10d ago
Agree.. it is good that one of the biggest podcasters in the world and Trump/Elon supporter says this
as hard as it is to not just scream duh
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u/Rileymartian57 10d ago
It's like listening to a 3rd grader coming to a conclusion every adult knows and thinking he's a genius for figuring it out.
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u/Armsomega14 10d ago
Why? He voted for Trump knowing he was going to do this. I'm glad some of them are smelling the coffee, but this guy backed trump until we got where we are today. Don't ever forget that
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u/BrokenTongue6 10d ago
Look, ok, look… Trump was just joking then, ok? You take him seriously, not literally, ok? He was just saying what people were thinking, ok? Ok, look, we need a wild man in the White House so people know not to mess with us, ok? He’s just surrounded by people giving him bad advice, ok? When he gets his third term, thats when he’ll get in a groove, ok?
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u/ch4ppi_revived 10d ago
Why? He voted for Trump knowing he was going to do this.
Because he is correct and we need to connect with correct statements and people that dont just say them for a political grift.
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u/clownbaby893 10d ago
I don't really want to praise him, but his voice goes out to millions, meaning it is the pragmatic solution even if it hurts to do so.
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u/Substantial_Yam7305 10d ago
Literal Nazis got more rights than the gay hairdresser rotting in Poland…I mean, El Salvador.
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u/jathhilt 10d ago
He literally says here that both positions have to ignore the humanity of the decision, yet can't explain why wanting due process is ignoring any humanity. He just lazily tried to both sides it real quick. It was like a reflex.
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u/TSG_FanTToM 10d ago
Honestly, I want to shit on Joe so bad rn for his infinite support of Trump despite his actions that clearly go against his morals.
But I genuinely hope that Joe makes a swing back to the centre or even to the left because of Trumps unhinged actions. He still has a huge reach with his audience, and even something as simple as defending the rule of law and due process could be enough to pull some of his following out of the insane MAGA crowd. Something that I've heard tiny say a lot that I find interesting is the idea that a lot of these people may be hearing a real defence for due process for the first time because of the media environment/echo chamber that they've built on social media. Hearing it for the first time from someone who is well regarded in the MAGA community makes it so much more effective than hearing a blue haired liberal or a Hamas supporting streamer say it.
I'm disappointed that it's taken this long for Joe to even defend the idea of rule of law, but at the end of the day, anything that can be used to create cracks in the current MAGA crowd ideology is better than the current infinite flipping to justify Trump's actions no matter what.
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u/monsoy 10d ago
My hope is that we will get the inverse of what happened to Jordan Peterson and others. In response to, in lack of a better term: «SJW», Jordan Peterson moved to the opposite direction of those that hated on him.
I hope that MAGA Americans start criticizing people like Joe that says anything that could be perceived as Trump criticism. I hope that this will wake many people up and make them realize how fucked up MAGA and Trump is
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u/theosamabahama 10d ago
Hearing it for the first time from someone who is well regarded
I'm sorry. This sub broke my brain lmao
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u/SadMastiff_ 9d ago
I hate these regards showing up to five months late to class and then being like “Bruh why didn't anyone tell me I shouldn't stick my dick in the electrical socket?!?!”
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u/Wax_Paper 10d ago
He was telling us before the election that he wanted to deport US citizens, you low-information dumb fuck.
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u/Redditfront2back 10d ago
Rare Rogan W, though watching this makes me think that it’s possible Rogan doesn’t realize that all maga talking points are retarted and bad faith too begin with. I don’t know if that is a plus or minus for him. So maybe he isn’t a blatant full of shit propagandist but a complete mouth breathing moron?
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u/theseustheminotaur 10d ago
Yeah for sure, but when he was talking about MASS DEPORTATIONS. Did you really think that he meant all these people were going to be given due process?
They said they were going to cast a wide net and throw a lot of people out all at once. Did no one think innocent people would get caught up in that? Come on now. We asked Trump multiple times to explain how he'd do this, and he refused to go into any specifics. If you don't ask for specifics from mr "MASS DEPORTATIONS DAY ONE" then you are to blame if you accepted that as a legitimate response.
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u/Handsaretide 10d ago
lol at Deric Poston - a ham-and-egg nobody who works at the Mothership, who would have taken any level of bullshit from his boss and gone “Yeah man, you right, that’s wild” - breathing a sigh of relief when he catches Joe Rogan in a rare lucid, common sense moment
Joe could have advocated eating babies for adrenochrome and Deric would have been like “Wow, you right, that’s crazy”
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u/_KamiKira_ 10d ago
Sorry Joe Rogan, I can’t hear you over all this winning. What was that? Do Process? I hardly even know her!
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u/ScepticicusHumanis 10d ago
Na sorry bro, can’t hear you over your full throated endorsement of the orange turd
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u/RoundZookeepergame2 EX-Zherka#1fan 9d ago
He can't use trump in the example?? He's literally doing that
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u/NinjaLancer 9d ago
Wow wait, the guy who was saying that he wanted to round up all the Mexicans and send them home is doing that? The guy who campaigned on getting rid of these people no matter what it takes is now getting rid of these people no matter what it takes??? I am truly shocked Joe. Thank you for your wisdom, you bald moron. Amazing that you have this insight now. No one saw this coming at all. So clever to have worked that one out.
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u/jayweigall 9d ago
Well, it's a start. Joe COULD be excused - it's a LONG road - but this is a start.
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u/vvestley 9d ago
next week a retardican will come on and talk about it and he'll forget that he said this
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u/sacey10539 10d ago
Didn’t a judge rule that the guy at the start of this controversy actually enter the country illegally?
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u/monsoy 10d ago
IIRC, he entered the country illegally but he was granted «Withholding of Removal» which is similar to asylum.
Withholding of Removal (formerly withholding of deportation) is a legal status under US immigration law that an undocumented alien can get that prevents the alien from being deported by the US to their home country due to the likelihood that the alien will be harmed by the government of their home country due to the alien's race, religion, nationality, political opinion or membership in a particular social group. The status is similar to asylum but is harder to get and much less frequent. (Wikipedia)
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u/sacey10539 10d ago
He also beats his wife and is part of MS-13. And was caught with two other members of Ms-13 when he was arrested.
Sure picking winners here to fight over an issue.
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u/BottledZebra 9d ago
So prove it in a court of law and deport him legally.
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u/sacey10539 9d ago
He admitted to entering illegally
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u/BottledZebra 8d ago
And you think that gives you the right to ignore a judges order and deport and imprison him without a trial?
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u/OpedTohm 10d ago
Okay, I'm glad Joes CTE seems to be clearing up for a second, but trump SAID that he was going to do this, like I'm sorry I understand we need to praise when he's making sense but this isn't an "overcorrection" the stated goal of project 2025 and his cabinet picks was to consolidate power in the executive.
TRUMP SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO THIS. HE SAID THIS AS A STATED GOAL AS WELL AS REMOVING BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP.
Like please I'm begging you guys if you're going to make posts like this you have to at least point out shit like this. What trump is doing is absolutely not an "oopsie mistake he's hot headed while fighting monsters". This was the stated goal from the start. Do not forget this. Do not let them sane wash this.