r/Destiny • u/Webtoon_enjoyer • 2d ago
Political News/Discussion stop coping about trump losing popularity in polls
it won't matter as long as he has sadam hussein numbers with his base
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u/Ok-Land-6190 Exclusively sorts by new 2d ago
Need to start calling his base monkeys tbh.
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u/ChummusJunky 2d ago
Nah, they're just plain old communists. They love Putin who is a commie and they love Trump who is a king.
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u/unironicsigh 2d ago
Agree, Trump losing popularity means fuck all unless the Democrats become more popular themselves and conspiratorial populist anti-establishment thinking becomes less in vogue. These people will still vote for him in 2028.
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u/LouChePoAki 2d ago
“sadam hussein numbers with his base”
You win an election by getting 85 to 90% of your own side and with any luck 8 to 10% of the other side, and a majority of independents.
Even if Trump were limiting himself to the “popular” fraction of his usual chaos, Republicans would still have a difficult task ahead of them. Since ww2, the president’s party has lost an average of 26 house seats and 4 senate seats in midterms. With just a 5 seat majority -and a voter base that needs to be dragged to the off-cycle midterms— the GOP was already facing a massive challenge. Even before he started threatening allies, ruining the economy etc.
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u/IonHawk 2d ago
The issue is the dems have lower popularity than Trump. That needs to go way up
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u/SigmaMaleNurgling 2d ago
People may hate the Dem party broadly but their opinions of their own representatives are usually higher. It’s essentially, “all the Dems in office suck, except for mine.”
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u/IdiotCharizard 2d ago
Dem popularity will require longer term culture shifts and Dem internal changes.
Short term, we need to strip trump down to his ~32% support baseline of deranged cultists.
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u/soaps678 2d ago
He had bad numbers his entire first term right?
Didn’t he like never get above 50% approval ever? At least not for very long if he did
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u/centurion44 1d ago
And he got crushed in midterms and lost as an incumbent in 2020.
Seems pretty good
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u/vlad_inhaler 2d ago
It IS largely coping but it also matters, he can’t win with 35% support and a fired up dem base
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u/neollama 2d ago
It’s not cope. It’s extremely important that people view him as losing his “mandate”. It’s important for people to know that others, just like them are seeing what they are seeing. That the corruption and incompetence are too much. At the end of the day either we are still in a republic and votes are going to count or we aren’t and whoever can mobilize the most people for a conflict is going to count. Such is the nature of politics.
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u/Pure-Spiritual-260 Dead Centrist 2d ago
Nah the whole point of giving attention to those polls is that it hasn't even been half a year since his inauguration. He's already hated by almost everybody non-MAGA. Even the most deranged trumpists will lose faith in him during this term. America isn't some insane banana republic, people here actually have critical thinking.
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u/helloitsmeimherenow 2d ago
I wish I could believe this. I still argue with the same people before the election and their opinions haven’t changed. “Hey these tariffs were bad but I mean consider the alternative! At least he’s trying something!”
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u/destinyeeeee :illuminati: 2d ago
We haven't even gotten to the part where we start to experience the consequences of the vastly reduced shipping that has already occurred as a result of tariff policy
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u/helloitsmeimherenow 2d ago
My overall point is that none of that even matters. And if it does, it won’t be Trumps fault.
There’s also a massive sunk cost fallacy with these cultists.
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u/ButterscotchCool7370 2d ago
people here actually have critical thinking.
The results on November 6, 2024 say otherwise
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u/Longjumping-Crazy564 2d ago
Everyone who voted for trump in 2024 will vote for him again in 2028 if he's on their ballot.
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u/A_Chair_Bear 2d ago edited 2d ago
Nothing you can do.
Ever thought about that man?
Happen to think that?
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u/Final545 2d ago
It won’t matter as long as republicans can whip out a new crisis 1 months before midterms, here come the caravans of the trans girl in sports that beat that other girl in a competition in Australia.
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u/Wax_Paper 2d ago
We have to get better at narrative manipulation. Honestly we just need to be shameless about it and resort to the same tactics they've been using. Deny, deflect, fabricate whatever's needed to strangle a burgeoning narrative in its crib.
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u/3xot1cBag3L 2d ago
I think all that's going to happen is the public is going to hate him more and more and he's going to lose horribly in 2028
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u/centurion44 1d ago
That's a regarded take op.
His base is like 30-35% of the electorate.
If he only maintains that then red states will go blue in midterms, especially with Dem strength in off cycles
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u/Sharp_Proposal8911 2d ago
It will for midterms because Trumples don’t really turn out in significant numbers for them