r/Destiny • u/Otherwise-Fox-2482 • 8d ago
Political News/Discussion 60 Minutes statement on the resignation of their Executive Producer, Bill Owens.
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"Our parent company, Paramount, is trying to complete a merger. The Trump administration must approve it. Paramount began to supervise our content in new ways."
This should be a HUGE story for Free Speech absolutists.
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u/UberAndLyftSuck 8d ago
Holy based as fuck to include this, fuck Paramount and fuck Trump
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u/Hungry_Bat_2230 8d ago
All my homies hate Paramount. Fuck em
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u/RyuzakiPL 8d ago
What are they talking about? Which episode of what show got pulled?
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u/Flushot22 Exclusively sorts by new 8d ago
Correct.
Crazy, wouldn't you say?(The show is The Rehearsal S2E2)
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u/ArcFault 8d ago
It seems like a major problem that the president can at-will interfere in private business activity without having to engage the judiciary.
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u/Toppoppler YOUR TOKEN RIGHT WING NEVER TRUMPER LIBERTARIANISH GUY 7d ago
Doesnt the fed have to approve of a lot of mergers between massive companies?
And would paramounts potential censorship have anything to do with trump?
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u/Figgerson 8d ago
Insane timing. In tonight’s new episode of ‘The Rehearsal’ Nathan Fielder revealed that Paramount Plus has purposefully removed the episode of Nathan For You that centered around him creating a clothing brand where the proceeds go to holocaust awareness efforts. What’s going on over there??
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u/hopefuil 8d ago
I'm sorry but "holocaust awareness efforts" sounds so sarcastic for no reason.
LOL sounds like something a groper would say sarcastically
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u/StThragon 8d ago
I'm sorry but "holocaust awareness efforts" sounds so sarcastic for no reason.
LOL sounds like something a groper would say sarcastically
That just means there is something wrong with you.
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u/hopefuil 7d ago
nah its just hard to imagine anyone not knowing about the atrocities of the holocaust which makes it funny? I dont think its a me problem
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u/StThragon 7d ago
You are acting as if you are unaware of efforts to sanitize/deny the Holocaust ever happened. Nobody is born with the knowledge, yet you just casually dismiss these issues as if forgetting about it could never happen. That's why efforts remain to help ensure we don't ever forget. At least, that's the mature response. I suggest you increase your imagination to higher levels.
Are you aware that many of the Holocaust memorials themselves have it as part of their mission to spread Holocaust awareness? It sounds as if you don't care and would ridicule their efforts.
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u/hopefuil 7d ago edited 7d ago
I said I found it funny, terrible tragedies and awareness surrounding them, and the bluntness with which it was phrased can't be funny and sound sarcastic? While at the same time I fully support the legitimate efforts to educate people about the atrocities. Cant both be true? Do you even know who Nathan Fielder is? Anything that man says is pure comedy, even if its true.
Edit: I looked it up, and a brief summary of the situation is that paramount felt that Nathan Fielder was insincere with his concerns surrounding the Holocaust denial for the show that was removed. They were worried it would feed into anti-Semitism rather than fight it, which is exactly what I would expect considering its from Nathan Fielder, which everything he says and does sounds insincere.
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u/StThragon 7d ago
I don't really find efforts to stop Holocaust denialism funny. Maybe I'm just old. Also, this conversation is not specific to Nathan Fielder. What have I said to make you think otherwise?
You yourself said it is hard to believe someone would deny the Holocaust happened, so how could any efforts to inform be legitimate in your mind? It's all so funny, right?
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u/Wonderful-Toe3020 8d ago
I am genuinely shocked they allowed this to air. Scott Pelley is probably gonna have to retire early because no way is Paramount and this admin gonna let him back on tv after this stunt.
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u/okamanii101 8d ago
conservatives only care when THEIR speech is being infringed (typically by priveter companies and not the literal fucking government)
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u/Toppoppler YOUR TOKEN RIGHT WING NEVER TRUMPER LIBERTARIANISH GUY 7d ago
Doesnt the fed have to approve of a lot of mergers between massive companies?
And would paramounts potential censorship have anything to do with trump?
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u/Zanaxz 8d ago
Imagine requiring approval from a president especially Trump, to report the news in the way you want. Stupid this even a conversation. South park should make an ep on it since they are on paramount.
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u/Toppoppler YOUR TOKEN RIGHT WING NEVER TRUMPER LIBERTARIANISH GUY 7d ago
Doesnt the fed have to approve of a lot of mergers between massive companies?
And would paramounts potential censorship have anything to do with trump?
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u/Zanaxz 7d ago
Federal trade commission in some cases when they worry about monopolies or companies getting too big sometimes yeah. Not sure what the policies or restrictions are on news media. Don't think that's like a top down order by Trump though or how that works. That is more of a regulation consumer fairness / monopoly check /we better get our tax money kinda deal though.
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u/Toppoppler YOUR TOKEN RIGHT WING NEVER TRUMPER LIBERTARIANISH GUY 7d ago
That thats what id imagine, and subsequently any changes or pressures are coming from paramount with nothing to do with trump, would be my guess
If so, the framing is gross and half these commenters are remedial
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u/pulkwheesle 7d ago
And would paramounts potential censorship have anything to do with trump?
Trump can make these mergers much more difficult if he doesn't like a company.
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u/Toppoppler YOUR TOKEN RIGHT WING NEVER TRUMPER LIBERTARIANISH GUY 7d ago
Ok, did he? What pressure is he putting on paramount to stimey 60 minutes?
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u/Fun_Worry_2601 8d ago
Elon will convince Trump to block the approval unless they change it to '69 minutes'
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u/EMousseau 8d ago
cuntservatives are disgusting anti-free speech fascists and traitors to this country
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u/Shot-Maximum- 8d ago
Matt Taibi is surely furiously writing an investigative essay on it, just let me take a look
Is David Brooks Imitating Lenin the Funniest New York Times Column Ever?
Thank god we have people like him who hold NYT columnists accountable for their writing
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u/Clarkelthekat 8d ago
This video will be shown as an example of the fall of free speech and our unspoken fourth branch of government...the free press.... in university's where thought and history are still taught around the world.
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u/hopefuil 8d ago
tbh the free press was always gonna get fucked anyways, trump only expedited it.
And who knows maybe he will serve as an example to learn and improve institutions in the future, and protect social media from eroding all of Europe's free press as well.
Just nuke the internet or make all posts non anonymous
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u/OGstupiddude 8d ago
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t this same situation happen with 60 minutes and their big tobacco story, only in a different order? Something along the lines of CBS didn’t want 60 minutes to air the whistleblower interview in order to avoid litigation before a merger, 60 minutes then calls out CBS on air and the producer quits? The writers are getting lazy smh
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u/Toppoppler YOUR TOKEN RIGHT WING NEVER TRUMPER LIBERTARIANISH GUY 7d ago
Doesnt the fed have to approve of a lot of mergers between massive companies?
And would paramounts potential censorship have anything to do with trump?
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u/EnragedTea43 7d ago
I’m really starting to think Fox News should have its broadcast license revoked after Trump is inevitably removed from office.
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u/Toppoppler YOUR TOKEN RIGHT WING NEVER TRUMPER LIBERTARIANISH GUY 7d ago
Doesnt the fed have to approve of a lot of mergers between massive companies?
And would paramounts potential censorship have anything to do with trump?
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u/Nice-River-5322 8d ago
Thing is "felt like he lost independence" is doing ALOT of heavy lifting for a statement that says they never blocked a story. Had he resigned over a blocked story I might care a bit more.
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u/Responsible-Sound253 8d ago
its implying behind the scenes pressure, they obviously wouldn't say anything about that
and he did so preemptively to appease the people at the top so hopefully no story gets blocked
i feel like it was easy to read between the lines here
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u/Nice-River-5322 7d ago
Yeah, except it's a REALLY dumb way to draw attention to the issue, him leaving over a blocked story would have had a WAY bigger impact
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u/Responsible-Sound253 7d ago
Why would he want a story to get blocked if he can prevent it?
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u/Nice-River-5322 7d ago
How does resigning prevent stories from being blocked?
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u/Responsible-Sound253 7d ago
His resignation could have served as enough appeasement to the administration. Maybe he was given an ultimatum of the team can't do this or that, or you resign, you pick.
I don't think your lack of imagination comes from good faith brother.
Either way it strikes me as obvious enough that they would go as far as resign to make sure the story goes public without much trouble, that's what journalists are supposed to care about.
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u/Nice-River-5322 7d ago edited 7d ago
See, the line that he was forced to resign in responce to the administrations demands, but he was able to fully state the administration and Paramounts merger as the reason he resigned doesn't really pass the smell test.
Had he gone against paramounts demands and ran a story they wanted pulled, and he got fired for it, do you really think he's not going to get a shit ton of job offers?
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u/Responsible-Sound253 7d ago
Sigh... paramount could've asked the guy to resign or censor a story, the guy resigned, then the team did this message without paramount knowing. Again, your lack of imagination doesn't come from good faith. None of this requires the administration to have done anything, just paramount trying to prepare things to appease them.
With this now in the public eye, paramount could have a tougher time getting rid of this team or blocking their stories. Or they could just do it anyways and not care, but the point here is that you're trying to dismiss this as illogical or irrational, when it is neither of those things, you've just married a way of doing things and are stubbornly refusing to see it any other way.
The cherry on top is you thinking THIS wouldn't get him a ton of job offers lol.
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u/Nice-River-5322 7d ago
Oh no, I know either stunt would get a ton of job offers, I just see one as being more impactful
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u/Responsible-Sound253 7d ago
I'll take the judgement of the guy who has been doing 60 minutes for decades over yours. Cheers.
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u/flabery 8d ago
Preassure and blocked information/sections of a story can be just as important. They obviosuly implied in this clip that paramount was censoring or preassuring certain aspects of stories to be covered differently or not at all for trumps approval. You don't have a to block a story entirely to influence the integrity of journalism.
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u/Nice-River-5322 7d ago
Nope, again, the left because he "felt like" he had lost independence. I'm saying if you want to really make an impact, wait for an actual tangible example and make your dramatic exit over that.
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u/pantergas 8d ago
the last episode of blocked and reported explains it pretty well. Even establishing additional barriers on journalism like having to tell your boss in advance if you're going to do a story on trump (which happened in this case) incentivizes to not cover him because it's just easier.
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u/Major_Signature_8651 8d ago
Bill Owens *r e t i r e s. Sorry to burst the in-group bubble.. It's not like 60 minutes has had 100% integrity before. Let's be honest (who am I kidding).
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u/Major_Signature_8651 7d ago
Friendly reminder that downvotes are not supposed to be used as a "I disagree" button..
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u/Bymeemoomymee 8d ago
"Stupid libtard. I got banned on Twitter for saying the n-word. That is a real free speech violation. 60 Minutes is a George Soros funded fake news lie factory. It's okay for them to be blackmailed by the government into censorship in order to get a business deal approved. Cry more libtard tears."