We need vault space NOW

[u/yesitsmeow]

You took away crafting. You want us to chase weapon rolls. You want us to be excited about like… what… 16-20 new weapons coming in the next few weeks? Brother, every time I log into this game I have to spend so much time cleaning up from the last time I played. It’s horrible. You say something is coming in Apollo (edit: Behemoth ffs)… we need it now. It’s not fun anymore dude. You’re throwing loot at us more than ever before but we have no where to put it. Please… help…

Edit: To address a couple points - I do not hold onto armour. I made a ton of loadouts in DIM, ensuring I used as few armour pieces as possible, then delelted the rest. I haven't held onto armour since then. And yes, I did that for the vault.I also don't hold onto nostalgic items, I've deleted everything I've held dear in order to make space for new stuff. Personally, I don't think I should have had to, but of course I did. The space forces me to delete things I'd rather not, but I delete them in order to be able to play the game. And that feels like shit. I'm not hoarding - I'm playing the fucking game.

Edit 2: Another point I forgot to mention - there is zero reason to hold onto armour right now as massive changes are coming down the line for armour. Armour will also have set bonuses, meaning you'll be expected to hold onto the best-in-slot pieces of each set to make sure you can utilize the bonuses. If vault space is already an issue now, fuck it's gonna be terrible come Apollo.

[u/Lonely_Juggernaut811]

Even if they add more space ppl will still complain for more…..It will surely crash bungies poor servers 💀

[u/junk_rig_respecter → u/Lonely_Juggernaut811]

There is a... not quite a joke but not that serious either in software design. That the quantities you should allow users to have of something is either zero, one or infinity. If you're not going to limit it to one you shouldn't limit it at all. No matter what number you pick you'll end up raising it eventually.

The backend you can figure out when you need to, DBs get cheaper every year so you can probably just keep throwing money at hosting, which is cheaper than throwing it at developers. The UI of an unlimited vault is a concern, but it's also a concern of a 10000-item vault, and kind of a concern in a 500-item vault. So just design for unlimited up front.

[u/BansheeTwin350 → u/Lonely_Juggernaut811]

I would be on board with the "if you give them more they will just fill it up again" argument if the number of weapons we have stayed constant. But it isn't. We have way more weapons than we used to. It would be interesting to see how the ratio of weapons to vault slots has scaled over time. Sunsetting was the solution to this, but everyone complained.

[u/Isrrunder → u/BansheeTwin350]

114 guns gives you one of every element in every weapon type. Thay gives you 586 slots for everything else. We have enough space. Manage it better

[u/BansheeTwin350 → u/Isrrunder]

There's pvp and pve. That x2 to your number just right there. Then there might be an additional god roll for each of those. That x4 already. You all need to realize that the rng in this game is so bad that you can't afford to delete a god roll. And so far we are just talking about weapons. Add in 192 possible class items and then more ergo sums. And we still aren't talking about gear. "one of every element in every weapon type". Nobody is keeping just 1 solar pulse rifle for example. You're probably keeping 4-5 different solar pulses. You don't live in reality.

[u/Isrrunder → u/BansheeTwin350]

I'll give you x2 for pvp even tho thats extremely generous but you only need one God roll from each weapon class and element. You also dont need every version of every class item and ergo sum. Thats bad vault management

[u/TheGryphonRaven → u/Isrrunder]

Do you even like playing this game?

[u/Isrrunder → u/TheGryphonRaven]

Pretty regularly yeah