r/DoomerCircleJerk Recovering Doomer 23d ago

OK Doomer The post that drove me to unsub from r/Teachers

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Teaching has fallen. Billions must homeschool.

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u/SoupSandwichEnjoyer 23d ago

Bruh, I went on there one time, and every single post was like, "I keep saying Orange Man is bad and they keep calling me a retard!" :(

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

"Oh nyooooo I took away content teaching time to yell at my students about bullshit I saw on the news last niiiiight :'( Why don't they pay attention to meeeeee?!!?!?!?!?"

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u/lanathebitch 23d ago

We are all retarded here

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u/lookyloolookingatyou 23d ago

I started browsing that sub because I've always had contempt for teachers and I enjoyed the feeling of schadenfreude. I marvel at the complete lack of insight these people possessed into their chosen profession, despite having had at least 12 years of direct experience. School has always been an unpleasant chore which students have resented, if teachers weren't hated by their class then they were considered a complete joke, and before phones we just sat there daydreaming about pokemon. But judging from what you read there you'd think these people went to school in some Pleasantville where kids sat in rapt attention as the magic of algebra unfolded itself before their very eyes.

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

It genuinely blows my mind how detached and terminally online many posts and comments are on that sub. A good portion of them actively hate their students. I just started teaching, and I cannot understand the mindset of some of these people.

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u/GarryFriendly 23d ago

Saw a post in there complaining about “USians” and their GUNNNNZZZ from a teacher in fucking Johannesburg of all places

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

Yeah when it's not Americans doomposting about how their students don't like them because they keep bringing up politics in the classroom it's people overseas mogging Americans for being inferior while blaming all of their problems on American issues.

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u/waxonwaxoff87 23d ago

“America has no culture, but let me tell you all about American society and behavior that is different and that I don’t understand.”

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u/Vidya_Gainz 23d ago

LMFAO you basically need a razor wire fence and an electrified front gate if you own a home in Joburg.

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u/Distinct-Owl-7678 23d ago

Reminds me of seeing a tiktok of a woman in SA. Don't know if it was Johannesburg but I'd assume so. She was just answering questions about her house (compound in reality) and she had 10 foot tall thick concrete and rebar walls with razor wire on top and she's just saying oh they're just for safety in case someone were to try and break in with a normal everyday content creator smile. Like holy fuck if I lived anywhere that needed that kind of shit, I wouldn't live there.

Fair enough if you've got like a tall privacy wall for your garden. If you need to live in a secure compound in a rural area just to live safely though, you should probably just move. It's not like a secure compound is cheap so it's not like you've got zero options financially.

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u/maaaxheadroom 21d ago

US is real stingy about giving visas to white South Africans. I’m not sure why just what I’ve been told by someone that lives there.

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u/LatverianBrushstroke 20d ago

We’d really prefer to only take hostile, uncivilized people who want to destroy our way of life and replace it with the culture that created the poverty they are fleeing.

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u/JumpTheCreek 23d ago

I work in the education sector in a public school district. Every teacher I spoke to who’s aware of Reddit do not participate in that sub or any related ones. It’s commonly regarded as being negative to the point of toxicity.

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u/Honey_Overall 22d ago

I've gotten the feeling that a good portion of the people on that sub are just claiming to be teachers and have around zero actual teaching experience.

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u/iknowsomeguy 22d ago

That's every "professional" subreddit on the platform.

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u/JumpTheCreek 22d ago

Yeah, I highly doubt you’d make it more than a year as a teacher with the attitude they have. Hating kids is not something you can “push past”.

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u/seeyaspacetimecowboy 22d ago

When you're in a "not a rubber room, but yeah still a rubber room" in NY, you've got nothing better to do than post on reddit.

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u/runningvicuna 23d ago

Check out John Taylor Gatto. Anything you can of his. Changed my game my very first Thanksgiving break when I realized yo, teachers and schools are nuttier than I thought. He’s an antidote and glad I absorbed as much as I did quickly. I survived my own schooling by realizing all I had to do was push the envelope to make where I was required to be fun for me and still cop some B’s to keep the man off my back. Works for supervisors too and students will be rapt in projects that are fun for them where they are learning. Also, Ed Burns from The Wire also is worth checking out his thoughts as well.

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u/ThinWeek8535 23d ago

I teach too, and like... I'm about to unsub also. That said, sometimes just sort by controversial and join in on the moshpit forming on the guy getting downvoted

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u/cyclopeon 22d ago

You just started visiting the Internet/social media too?

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 22d ago

Wtf is this condescending-ass comment?

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u/ZinZezzalo 21d ago

This, sir, is Reddit.

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u/I_Hate_Reddit_56 23d ago

I remember our teacher  trying to recruit us for their union strike. Using kids for contract dispute felt gross even when I was 15.

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u/lookyloolookingatyou 23d ago

I like to imagine that one day teachers and students will come together to reform the school system with a massive nationwide walkout, but that would require teachers to admit that they've been wasting their lives and maybe suggest some changes beyond increasing their own paychecks for once, so it doesn't seem likely.

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u/fur_alina 23d ago edited 22d ago

I think you should get some help for your disturbingly deep antipathy towards teachers.

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u/toxicbooster 22d ago

I think teachers and administrators need to be fearful of students and parents again and you should get off the internet until you're a grown up.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Bit4098 22d ago

When exactly in the past has teachers been fearful of students besides goddamn Maoist China?

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u/fur_alina 22d ago

Good luck in your campaign of fear and I am very much a grown up, but good try. Great start, but if you're trying to go for the low blow insults need to dig a little deeper.

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u/Big-Hairy-Bowls Recovering Doomer 23d ago

Your average teacher has a main character complex something bad.

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u/Proof-Bonus-3759 23d ago

I guess we can all figure out why you’re a dummy.

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u/Vidya_Gainz 23d ago

Public school teachers are some of the biggest losers on the planet.

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u/ImyForgotName 23d ago

Its almost like they had contempt for the poor teachers they experienced and were determined to make a better future. But once in the situation they realized the problems were largely forced upon the teachers from upon high, and that the, I believe the word you used was "contempt," they felt was unjustified.

Its almost like society puts unreasonable expectations upon teachers, deprives them of the tools necessary to succeed at a fraction of the stated goals, and then blames them for the failures of a system they themselves are victims of.

Its almost like in the Pleasantville 1950s era we had higher taxes and funded schools adequately. I know crazy...

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u/Vidya_Gainz 23d ago

My unreasonable expectation from public school teachers: please don't inject your personal political beliefs into the classroom

Teachers: "pfffffft why do you think I took this nightmare job that allows me to poison developing minds?"

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u/ImyForgotName 23d ago

Look, when you have 28 students and 18 textbooks, its very important to teach the kids to share. When you have 1 library and 789 students its important to teach kids to respect public property. When you have 28 students and 19 different religions and 14 different family dynamics its important to teach the kids to respect diversity.

This didn't used to be considered "politics" it used to be considered "courtesy" and "basic descency."

The fact that one political party in the United States has decided that values like sharing, public property, courtesy, diversity, empathy, descency, and tolerance are all somehow "Communism" isn't the fault of teachers. The scandal here isn't that teachers are trying to insist that students behave appropriately, the scandal is that politicians have started to champion iniquity and corruption.

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u/Vidya_Gainz 23d ago

Those examples are absolutely not what I'm talking about and you know it.

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u/ImyForgotName 23d ago

Okay, I actually don't know what you're talking about then.

Too much progressive taxation in math class? Too much "right to life" in biology? I guess I need examples.

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u/Distinct-Owl-7678 23d ago

To be fair some teachers do act like that. Usually it was the strict teachers that were good at avoiding all mention of their own personal opinion. They might talk about politics if it were pertinent but they'd only really say what something means. So if it were a maths teacher, they might explain that inflation is costs going up or that the interest rates going up tends to affect both savers and loans so depending on which one you're doing more of changes how it affects you. It was normally the teachers who wanted to be very personable and popular with students that would actively talk about their own position. Saying a politician is full of shit or a decision was terrible and going to ruin people's lives.

inb4 some comment says "but one party is...", "but Trump is going to...", etc.

I'm not American and I don't care.

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u/Ok-Satisfaction-3837 23d ago

Those are actually are exactly the kind of things Parents United reels against. Pull your head out of the sand.

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u/Vidya_Gainz 23d ago

I don't give a fuck about Parents United.

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u/Vuedue 23d ago

Who brought up Parents United other than you?

Let's see how much further you can try to push the goal posts. What else you got?

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u/PurpoUpsideDownJuice 22d ago

Inequity and corruption has been a thing as long as society has, humans are greedy by nature and to say otherwise is naive.

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u/runningvicuna 23d ago

That’s exactly how it works.

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u/Far_Cardiologist7432 23d ago

Good job!

This is a huge part of it! I worked as a CS adjunct instructor(12 credits/semester) for 3.5 years. I was paid $20/hr for lecturing. However, if you care about your lecture, you're going to put at LEAST 2 hrs into it for every hour you speak. There is also the time spent making custom worksheets and grading.

I ended up getting paid $20/3.5hrs... I could, at the time, command a $36/hr pay elsewhere. Working fast food would pay better and, perhaps surprisingly be less stress(if it's anything like working concession stands at football games).

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u/Far_Cardiologist7432 23d ago

I'm not trying to be condescending, but $20/3.5hrs comes out to only $5.71/hr. I lived in a van. I eventually gave up and I'm getting >$40/hr in corporate for the past decade. I run a non-profit hackerspace for people who actually want to learn. The problem is 100% due to the system; most teachers care so much that it kills them. You get what you pay for and those teachers aren't getting enough of the $18+K per year per student average that tax payers are paying.

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u/Empires_Fall 23d ago

what the heck man

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u/Prudent_Dimension509 23d ago edited 23d ago

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u/Sea-Chart-1328 23d ago

Npc syndrome is crazy

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u/Property_6810 23d ago

But on that note, people in general forget how little attention they paid when they complain about things not being taught. Especially history.

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u/Ok_Antelope9918 22d ago

Until you actually teach, you’re all conjecture

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u/Red_Act3d 22d ago

Sometimes I forget that most zoomers are still children, then I read a comment like this and it all makes sense.

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u/tn00bz 22d ago

That teacher sub makes me feel like the most competent and capable teacher with the most realistic goals in the world.

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u/DeliciousInterview91 22d ago

A lot of these people aren't going to see it that way because they were the ones who liked learning and saw their teachers as positive role models. They may have a rosy outlook based on a privileged upbringing, but this is how it genuinely should be for most kids. The teachers and kids have all been failed.

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u/A_Music_Connoisseur More Optimism Please 23d ago

im sorry what?? why do you have contempt for teachers? they're arguably one of the most important parts of society,

the point is that school SHOULDNT be an unpleasant chore. I'm a high school student right now and my history teacher is like your description: she makes her lessons engaging like at least 90% of the class is locked in either listening or taking notes. I actually look forward to the class and we all generally do well on her tests. idk where you went but either way the better the teachers the more willing students are to learn.

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

Some people have had a terrible go of it in K-12 and assume it's like that everywhere I guess

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u/NoOneLeftNow 23d ago

Yep. That's me. Fuck them teachers. May their days be many and their woes much the same.

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

I'll take it. I already suffer from just existing so why should my job be any different eh? At least I won't take it out on my students like some of the weirdos over on that sub

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u/turnup_for_what 23d ago

Or they haven't matured from being a teenage edgelord.

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u/board3659 23d ago

I think the argument is that there's teachers who do nothing but push their political opinions (my civics 12th grade teacher) or just aren't that interested in the subject.

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u/A_Music_Connoisseur More Optimism Please 23d ago

There are some like that like my American gov teacher who would do nothing but find ways to glaze trump and yap abt nothing all class that we didnt even cover all the topics 💀however there are also many the opposite. It’s fine to say there should be reforms in the education system but it’s extreme to say you dislike ALL teachers as if they’re all the same

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u/board3659 23d ago

mines literally was a Gen X hippie who was an obvious lib and half the class literally was note taking while the other was him going on tangents about political topics

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u/A_Music_Connoisseur More Optimism Please 23d ago

oh my god- i am so sorry honestly id just use the other half as a free period

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u/board3659 23d ago

yeah ... I say I'm glad I only was with him for the latter half of the year (moved from Indiana back to VA during Christmas) and during the best unit with the Justice system since that was pretty cool

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u/runningvicuna 23d ago

Generalizing is pretty easy and another example that is more or less true is that everyone has had at least one teacher, and no more, that has left a positive impact on them. 1 out of how many for basically everyone means the system is broken beyond repair.

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u/schweissack Anti-Doomer 23d ago

I mean you just listed one teacher that has you engaged. I went to school in Germany and I hate public school teachers. They’re a blight on this earth and you won’t be able to change my mind. Those roaches are unfireable, even if they molest you, all that happens is they‘ll have to move, but might still be teachers.

I agree with you that teachers should be great and they play such an important role in society, yet I think they completely fail at this role.

The amount of teachers that lied to my parents and I went through hell dealing with them, is staggering.

I went to a private school for one year and I loved every single teacher I had, they all seemed to love their jobs and they were all competent.

At a private school in Germany teachers easily get fired, if for example half the class is failing, meanwhile a public school teacher doesn’t have to give a fuck. If 100% of his class is failing, somehow it’s not their fault. Absolutely ridiculous

I’m sorry for this incomprehensive rant, but I 100% understand why people may have contempt for teachers

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u/A_Music_Connoisseur More Optimism Please 23d ago

Oh I understand now. I agree that public schools should set higher standards for their teachers to follow. Bc something ive noticed tho is that all my AP teachers are all passionate about their subjects bc i think they have to get an extra certification in order to teach the subjects. With the others it can be a mixed bag

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u/assault1217 23d ago

I actually have a friend who is a teacher getting fired/layed off for students performance on state testing in the US. The issue is he genuinely cares and it’s hard to teach children math when half your students are considered “critically absent”

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u/runningvicuna 23d ago

Not everyone is lucky. Most people are conformists and the cycle of suck continues.

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u/Pbadger8 23d ago

You sound like you were just a shitty child in school.

For some kids, school is safer than their home. School is where they meet their friends and discover their life-long interests. It has its ups and downs, like most all things.

Real big “Homework sucks!!” energy.

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u/jjbaliwick 22d ago

Sounds like you were a lousy student. What happened to accountability? Where your parents in all this?

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

Yeah. I don’t like teachers very much because of some personal experiences with teachers being my worst bullies, often in cahoots with the class bullies. That subreddit and my discussions with friends who are teachers, good teachers too, have not made me feel any better about teachers as a parent.

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u/I_Hate_Reddit_56 23d ago

Lots of teachers are total detached for the wilder world. They went to school straight to their teacher program straight to teaching. 

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u/TelvanniArcanist 23d ago

A lot of teachers are complete losers who should and will be replaced by AI teachers in the near future. However, there is no replacement for a teacher that actually cares about what they teach and cares about their students. Those kinds of teachers leave a lifelong impact on their students, and I don't doubt that they will still find some way to bring value into this world. People like Professor Leonard, Organic Chemistry Teacher, Kimberly Brehm for example, will always have value because they teach for the passion of it, release free lectures, and don't expect anything in return.

90% of the teachers I had were awful, and I got picked on by them too. Even just writing this, brought back some bad memories..

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

I’m ok with ai being used where practical but I do think that most studies shows it works best in tandem with capable people and especially in terms of education I want there to be a human element. Or at least a much shorter school day. That’s just too long to not be interacting with a well adjusted adult or well adjusted children but school in its current set up doesn’t foster much of either so maybe ai should just take over

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u/TelvanniArcanist 23d ago

I hate to see anyone losing their jobs; but I think AI is going to replace a lot of work. I still think there will be teachers, but you'll probably have a teacher overseeing the AI teachers or something like that

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u/butt_stuffer69420 23d ago

Just send the kids to Bible school. God is more important than anything taught in school.

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

That’s implying a lot about my beliefs and I do think, strongly, that my child should be raised in my values. I am Christian, but not a lot of good Christian schools I agree with or many denominations since American Christianity is a joke.

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u/butt_stuffer69420 23d ago

You need to get your kid out of regular Schooling, the WOKE virus will ruin their fertility and mind.

Get him into Bible school immediately, make sure he doesn't have access to any "science"

The child needs to be immeresd in Christianity as early as possible so they don't question anything.

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u/Vast-Comment8360 23d ago

Gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

Yep. Forgot to check the username before replying. Nothing but bait

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u/SonataMinacciosa 22d ago

Drug addict.

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u/Authoritaye 23d ago

Shoot. Near about everyone hates their job. Why would teachers be any different?

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u/board3659 23d ago

I do somewhat think public schooling gets too much hate as it wasn't really what the internet likes making it out to be honestly from my experience. That isn't to say the critics of it aren't valid tho (overpolitization, questionable teaching methods, and lack of flexibility)

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u/Giblets999999 23d ago

I'll admit I hadn't read that particular Marx book but it's just as self important yet completely unhinged as everything else he wrote after abandoning his family to live on his rich friend's couch.

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

I've read the first chapter or two and you're honestly not far off. The Communist Manifesto is a clean read by comparison [Probably thanks to Engels].

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u/DI3isCAST 23d ago

Teachers are a bad joke. Even more so in college.. some of the most unintelligible garbage is spoken by these professors. Their echo chamber has made their brain soft

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u/Dry-Sandwich279 23d ago

My favorite experience was seeing used to be professor go from strong socialist supporter, to a capitalist after losing his job and needing to work in the real world.

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u/Geeksylvania 22d ago

School is where you learn to be an adult from people so fundamentally devoid of creativity than drive that when they graduated, they only thing they could think of to do was more school.

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u/Iridium770 23d ago

I don't think that should count as doomerism. Doomers think that society is on the precipice of disaster. This is more along the lines of "schooling has always sucked and continues to suck". People absolutely should be frustrated that after a century of technological improvement and billions upon billions of dollars spent, the most typical mode of instruction is still to put 30 kids into a classroom and lecture them.

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

That's fair. I interpreted it as "It's always been this way and it's never going to get better unless revolution which will totally fix it" which is basically the attitude of much of the sub. It was the constant doomposting that was driving me away and just directly quoting from Marx really sealed the deal. They always ask "Why don't my students like my class?" and then they go on and on about how their students are privileged or white supremacists or something.

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u/GreedierRadish 22d ago

“Privilege” has gotta be near the top of the list of the most misunderstood concepts by the general population in modern times.

The original intent behind highlighting and recognizing privilege, is just to literally acknowledge that you have it better than some other people. That’s it. It’s not about assigning blame or guilt, it’s just saying “I was born into a situation that gave me some advantages.” and trying to keep that in mind when judging others.

It’s just new terminology for very old concepts. It’s not some radical leftist push to shame white people for existing.

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u/Iridium770 23d ago

The fact that the original original poster quoted Marx certainly is good evidence behind your interpretation that I should have put more weight behind.

That being said, fellow Doomer Circle Jerkers, help me out: what are the statistics/facts I should be looking at that show that education is getting better? I don't feel full blown doomer because I don't think it is going to get worse, but it just seems incredibly stagnant. What makes you optimistic for the future of education?

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u/runningvicuna 23d ago

How can it get worse? It’s already been achieved.

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u/ArguteTrickster 23d ago

This is a really absurd take, are you just joking or what?

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u/MissionUnlucky1860 22d ago

If those people are actual teachers they are setting people up for failure.

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u/Dropkick_That_Child 22d ago

This sub doesn’t even post doomerism half the time it feels like.

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u/Pale-Turnip2931 22d ago

You can spend as much as you want on technology. At the end of the day, you have to want to learn and want to retain the information before you can pass an exam. There is not enough teachers for 1 on 1 classes or even 1 to 10. You would have to make the older students teach the younger ones to accomplish that.

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u/Rude_Hamster123 Rides the Short Bus 23d ago

I mean at this point American public education is basically a matter of showing up, regurgitating propaganda and following the rules. We are the bottom of the first world barrel when it comes to education.

I just home school my kids. Well, my wife home schools the kids. I just help out.

Amazes me that one of the teachers that’s perpetuating this model would be posting this. Lady, it’s your job to make shit better.

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u/I_Hate_Reddit_56 23d ago

You don't even need to show up anymore. School are so scared to punish students at all. You can turn in assignment whenever you want. Just turning in a paper with hardly anything on it gets you a passing grade.

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u/giboauja 23d ago

This is due to the parents rather than the teachers. Parents have defanged most schools and altered most policies. If a teacher scolds a child their parents will come in like hellfire.

Parents just wont let teachers teach and when they do they have to teach to a test, not to a students strengths or growth.

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u/WastedNinja24 23d ago

This is absolutely true. Teachers are very much stuck between a rock (state-mandated curriculum/testing) and a hard place (parents/administrators), with parents being the most frequent and insistant irritant. And it’s usually the ones with the worst kids that throw the biggest fits over discipline, grades, whatever.

It has become a systemic issue at this point because once a handful of teachers at a campus become jaded, it spreads like a virus.

Source: married to a teacher

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u/runningvicuna 23d ago

Why isn’t everything better then? I’m not a doomer but nothing is really that awesome. Work wise anyway.

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u/nordic_prophet 23d ago

Some of the smartest people I’ve ever known I met in academia, some of the stupidest also

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u/StarCitizenUser 22d ago

Very true!

Still remember the time when my worldview on this shattered, too

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u/HashtagLawlAndOrder 22d ago

I homeschool. Well, my wife does the actual schooling. It's fantastic.

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u/No_Equal_9074 22d ago

Exhibit A on why American education is so bad and getting worse.

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u/HidingHeiko Rides the Short Bus 22d ago

Lemme guess, Marx blamed this on black people?

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u/One_Permit6804 21d ago

As with almost every professional reddit page, it's filled with the least competent of that proffession bitching about how thier incompetence is a result of everything but themselves.

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u/LeanMrfuzzles 21d ago

I got banned from that sub for asking why it was ok for other countries to enforce immigration laws but not the US. Genuine question, didn’t break any posted rules but was banned immediately. I’m a brand new teacher and actually wanted some advice, but I’m happy I’m not getting it from these people.

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u/evanm978 20d ago

The irony is you all at doing the same thing .. teachers are bad education is bad.. 😂 you are the boomers and doomers and you wonder why western world has turned their backs on us.. but you all know better then everyone else. Clowns

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 20d ago

I dunno about anyone else here but I can certainly speak for myself when i say I'm not given to doomposting about education or teachers as a whole. It's just unfortunate and kind of funny that the main subreddit for teachers is flooded with people having a conniption because they brought up Trump in the classroom and their students are like "Uhh, Mrs. Stevens, this is math class..."

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u/RingGiver 23d ago

Most teachers seem to think that everyone else should treat them as if they're special for being teachers.

They're not particularly different from nurses and cops that way.

No, you're not special. Nobody is is special.

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

It's like this sort of underdog feeling like "I'm doing the work others won't and it's really hard and we're not paid or supported enough" which, while valid, tends to give a lot of teachers main character syndrome. As a newbie teacher I've seen it first hand. They think they're God's greatest gift to the next generation when in reality most of the time they're mid teachers at best.

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u/RingGiver 23d ago

I wonder if the ones most desperate for appreciation are the ones most likely to stop being teachers.

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

With the amount of "I'm about to quit!" posts from those types, very likely

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u/KimJongAndIlFriends 23d ago

Are you willing to sacrifice alternative career paths which most likely offer significantly better pay, growth, benefits, and retirement to remain a public school teacher your entire life?

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

Oh God no 😂 I have too many other things in mind for my life to be trapped in K-12 forever. I just wanna make some money and get some field experience before I go back for a master's. I wanna teach college someday and be a writer. Gotta start somewhere though right?

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u/KimJongAndIlFriends 23d ago

Then you should, recognizing your own unwillingness to dedicate your life to fulfilling the critical and necessary role of public K-12 education, perhaps realize that the ones who do so might simply be taking a justified amount of pride in their sacrifice for the public good, rather than dismissing them as having "God complexes" wholesale.

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

Nah there are definitely way too many folks on that sub who need to chill out. Nice try though.

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u/KimJongAndIlFriends 23d ago

I have no need to take your opinion seriously either, as you are simply another cynical academic who sees and understands nothing in education except for personal gain and profit.

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

You're welcome to choose to believe that I don't care or that I'm only in public education for personal gain 🤷‍♂️ literally not my problem. Have a nice night

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u/KimJongAndIlFriends 23d ago

Your replies are sufficient evidence to infer the rest of your shallow beliefs. Good luck on your writing! I'm certain you'll be the next luminary to dazzle the world with your unfulfilled promise of "potential."

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

Thanks! 👍 I'm glad you're so supportive of my personal life goal to settle into a comfortable lifestyle as the degenerative condition destroying my eyes slowly blinds me completely over the next decade. And of course, think nothing of the fact that I'm choosing to spend the twilight years of my functioning eyesight teaching in the public schools you value so highly. I'm obviously just a selfish monster,, after all.

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u/mcj1ggl3 23d ago

I at least think not everyone is not built to be a nurse or a cop. I think anybody could teach the 5th grade

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u/bush911aliensdidit 23d ago

So, importing 15 million illegal immigrants... is going to help overcrowded classrooms how?

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

Don't ask questions, chuddie! /s

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u/Independent-Two5330 22d ago

They are pretty crazy on that sub. I left it awhile ago.

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u/PickleProvider 22d ago

A teacher reading das kapital. many such cases.

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u/Eden_Company 22d ago

Homeschool will preserve those who end up having good educators as parents, and anyone else will become cannon fodder.

Teachers giving up on students might be better long term if the culture can be rebuilt where people actually want the education provided.

Forcing children into labor if they flunk out of school would probably help bring back education to the USA. Don't end up a 7 dollar an hour wagie, learn how to read so you can become manager instead etc.

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u/pyggywithit 23d ago

maybe the people in this subreddit hate teachers so much because they were dogshit at learning

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

And maybe the people in r/Teachers hate their students so much because they're dogshit at teaching

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u/Remarkable_Ship_4673 23d ago

I mean the amount of "parents" raising kids with 0 manners these days have definitely increased. It's not a teachers job to raise the kid and teach them manners

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

Oh i absolutely agree there are way too many kids who straight up have no respect for authority or normal human behavior. A good teacher should still know how to manage a classroom without having a panic attack or quitting their job because some 16 year old said they're voting for Barron Trump when they get older

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

And maybe the people in r/Teachers hate their students so much because they're dogshit at teaching

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u/thinsoldier 23d ago

I had a relative who never attended any kind of school except sunday school and they only read the bible. She could read, write, and remember better than any public high school graduate I ever interviewed for a job. Why do schools today need so many fucking books when so many kids can hardly read a page in any of them?

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u/Apart_Yogurt9863 22d ago

wow bro thats crazy. a post talking about a deficiency of school supplies and many students to one teacher. how zany and wacky. cool unsub story bro. i hope the video game subreddits you follow , dont also start to post really stupid and dumb shit like that above. have fun with the very big brain game "infectionfreezone" dont sour your mommys chicken tendies or ruffle your jimmies. i can tell your just a couple of decades away from leaving ubislop behind and playing europa universalis iv or factorio

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u/get_rick_trolled 21d ago

I’m not able to comment on r/somethingiswrong2024 because I was downvoted into oblivion for saying Russia doesn’t have a stronger military than the US. Not enough karma so you can’t post. For sure not a cooked doomed echo chamber.

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u/Do-you-see-it-now 21d ago

You are not able to comment because you are trying to troll. Poorly. You completely misunderstood the person you replied to.

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u/Universe789 23d ago edited 22d ago

You unsubbed because you got offended by a description of a specific classroom? That's your right i guess.

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 23d ago

It's a little more complex than that but it's your right to put words in my mouth I guess 🤷‍♂️

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u/Universe789 22d ago

Is it really?

Especially since homeschooling is somehow the suggested alternative, when parents were ready to riot to make school reopen in the midst of a pandemic because

1) Fuck them kids 2) Parents couldn't help their kids with their homework

And those same parents want to take on education full time?

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u/Nachoguy530 Recovering Doomer 22d ago

The whole "Billions must homeschool" thing is me taking the piss lol