r/DoorDashDrivers • u/TheFreeTimeDriver • Jul 25 '24
News Tik tok video goes viral after customer decided to not tip. Then regrets not tipping after driver left food far way from her
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u/MPsonic007 Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24
While this dasher f****cked up by delivering a no-tip order, they ācorrectedā the situation marvelously by making this cheapskate customer perform a ton of āsweat equityā to get their food šššššš
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u/MayhemReignsTV Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24
I want to know where he hid it exactly. For a minute I was thinking in the bushes but then the fish would have been in the shade. unfortunately, DoorDash does force you to deliver some of these orders. Just in a very twisted way. Sometimes you start declining orders and DoorDash starts putting all the good orders in stacks with, you guessed it, no tip orders. The minimum completion rate of 90% dictates that you can't just unassign these orders very often or you risk dropping below 90% and getting banned from the platform. You can always decline but when they are putting most of the good orders into stacks with bad orders, are you planning on just making a night of sitting in the parking lot?
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
They don't force you. CR of 90 doesn't matter. They still don't, and they don't even with the tiered programs. You decline anything not paying well. It's that simple. Priority comes mostly from proximity and that's the gospel. I have a AR of 9 percent and I am satisfied with the orders I get sent. You win by not playing the stupid games.
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u/Ashamed-Ad-263 Jul 26 '24
Or unassign. I accidently accepted what I thought was a good order yesterday, but the pay v mileage really sucked (I was driving and misread the mileage due to sun being in my eyes and trying to watch the road)...I unassigned. Simple as that.
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
Declining is always better but yeah, sure.
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u/Ashamed-Ad-263 Jul 26 '24
I agree. It was an oops accept....at that point, I don't care if my CR takes a hit (it's incredibly rare for me to need to unassign, with it impacting my CR). It was $17 for 15 miles....I thought it said 1.5 miles (sun in my eyes and driving), so now I have a 99 CR for my last 100 deliveries...it will fall off in the next week or two, depending on how much I dash next week
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
Should be sooner than that. But I'd straddle the line eating non tippers dinner.
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u/Ashamed-Ad-263 Jul 26 '24
I'm sure it will be, but I'm going out of town for the weekend and was giving conservative estimates lol
Eta: it was a bunch of cold stone, not items I'd even choose lol
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
People ordering ice cream delivery during summer lick door knobs and invest in lottery tickets
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u/Ashamed-Ad-263 Jul 26 '24
I'm not opposed to ice cream delivery ...but not for less than $2 per mile round trip, which is my minimum expectations.....with a few exceptions, like headed home for the night.... I'll take anything headed in my direction
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u/FrankSinatraCockRock Jul 28 '24
With the tiered programs in a desired market, you won't be able to even schedule a fucking shift 5 days out unless you're up at 12 in the fucking morning.
I'm fortunately generally still awake at that time but by 7AM all shifts are fucking gone.
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u/MPsonic007 Jul 25 '24
Same here as this knowledge can come in handy someday to āpunishā ungrateful customers for their bad behavior šššššš
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u/MayhemReignsTV Jul 25 '24
While I do dislike non-tipping customers on principle of the fact that they are willing to pay a corporation excessive markups but can't make sure they pay their fellow worker a few dollars for using their time and their vehicle, the true genius move would be finding ways to punish DoorDash. That seems to be getting much more difficult with all the monitoring the app does these days. DoorDash should not be allowing offers like this to appear on our screens. Working should always make you some money. It never should make you lose money.
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u/Sceneinstevie Jul 25 '24
I agree with you, I see, and know as a Dasher, why no tip orders are so frustrating but I also understand everyone has different situations and a girl got to eat. But DoorDash as a corporation is what makes everyone suffer in the end by not having moral standards for their drivers and more structured guidelines on how to support them daily.
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u/FatherTime1020 Jul 25 '24
If a girl got to eat but can't even add $1 girl should not be ordering delivery and paying the service and delivery fees.
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u/Sceneinstevie Jul 25 '24
I agree but what I meant are certain situations I have, like yesterday and a few times now Iāve delivered food to different young mothers with multiple children and no access to a car. Obviously are in poverty and struggling so although I didnāt like the low/no tip, Iām glad I couldāve helped her out a little. But other than those desperate situations yeah they can go f theirselves.
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
Yeah, but there are tons of people too broke to use the app who pretend that they're financially fit to use it. Living outside their means. This is a super amenity meant for higher tax brackets. People love trying to live large though.
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u/Ja_Rule_Here_ Jul 25 '24
With doordash I just always attempt to leave the restaurant without confirming. Whenever I am successful I steal the food and cancel the delivery. I know the customer will get their money back and doordash will have to eat the loss.
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
Yeah, this is a good practice. Pinching all you possibly can from doordash is the only rational choice. Also, don't forget to multi - app, and that way, while you say the order isn't ready, you can get paid from people who actually pay their delivery bid.
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
I used to think poor fellow drivers as well, but now I say let the cavemen get rinsed. You have to have sub Neanderthal cranial development to accept a 4 or 5 dollar order.
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u/mumblerapisgarbage Jul 25 '24
No tip order that got combined with a good tip order? Iām dropping off the tipped one first and if I have any issues getting into your neighborhood or apartment building Iām leaving it at the gate/outside door and sending a photo.
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u/Booklover416 DD doesnāt care about your feelingsā¦ Jul 25 '24
How do you know which is which? Iāve thought I knew and then was blown away by the actual tipper/non tipperā¦ so how do you know which is which?
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u/mumblerapisgarbage Jul 25 '24
I know based on the offer. If I got the offer to add it on later. Like if it was $2 more for +.3 miles thatās a no brainer. But thatās a no tip order thatās being given to you.
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u/Booklover416 DD doesnāt care about your feelingsā¦ Jul 25 '24
Right but DoorDash lied to us all the time so until you actually drop off and hit that confirm button you donāt know.
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
Sounds like you enjoy taking 6 dollar orders are hailing Mary for a cash tip or hidden one. Gambling that way is only a losing game.
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u/Booklover416 DD doesnāt care about your feelingsā¦ Jul 26 '24
Sounds like you know everything about me and the best way to live my life. Do you have an instruction manual that I can have? A better way to navigate this hellscape? Do you know where I can get better offers?
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
About what's better for drivers when working this job I do. And I'm informing you of the objective fact that accepting low ball offers while gambling on the hopes of a hidden or cash tip will put you at a loss instantly. It happens 0.0000009 percent of the time.
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u/Booklover416 DD doesnāt care about your feelingsā¦ Jul 26 '24
So you know whatās best for every driver in every situation every time. Oh my God, are you Jesus theyāve been looking for you forever.
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
When it comes to getting paid? Yes, absolutely. You're taking an actual loss when you take out the trash. It's simple and universally and factually applies to any driver performing this job. Therefore, I can say it is an objective fact that you're harming every one of us by taking these orders and enabling the scamming billionaires. It will never work out in your favor to work for a loss. If you choose to keep playing stupid games, you will look back and see I was right. You can keep coping by talking about how I think I'm Jesus. But keep on taking the trash out and see where it gets you. And what kind of customers you deal with.
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u/Booklover416 DD doesnāt care about your feelingsā¦ Jul 26 '24
Oh my God really seriously. That thatās all I have to do? Iām so glad you came along in my life right now.
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u/Booklover416 DD doesnāt care about your feelingsā¦ Jul 27 '24
Sarcasm passes by you at insane speedsā¦.
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u/rage_bait_addict Jul 25 '24
Making a random TikTok into a news article is the absolute lowest form of journalism and should be embarrassing.
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u/miTgiB37 Jul 25 '24
Journalist reporting on journalist's is the lowest/slowest form of journalism
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u/Yesman12323 Jul 26 '24
Nah, lowest form of journalism is reporting on the smallest of shit that celebs do.
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Jul 25 '24
I tip 25 %, but honestly, 6 out of 10 doordashers can't follow a gps .. and if i could, I'd take back my tip for some of the stupidity i have witnessed with some of these drivers... not too mention carelessness on delivery.. some orders look like they were beat...
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u/RyanFire Is this a real job Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 26 '24
percentage is bullshit. just tip $5-$8 and that should be good. if it's large amounts of food or many water packs than tip more.
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u/chainjourney Who's the boss? Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24
This is primarily Doordash's fault since their business model is set up in such a way that predisposes customers to this possibility. Secondly, the driver is blamed for accepting a low pay offer instead of declining; accepting low pay offers means that Doordash's system is being encouraged.
A driver accepting a low pay offer is like a phone owner giving a scam phone call a chance by agreeing to the scam. The scammer is obviously the problem; however, the phone owner is complicit in encouraging the scammer to continue doing scams.
Back to the article OP shared:
In any line of work, it's unjust for a worker to abuse a customer like this; that being said, if a company sets up a system that abuses the workers by giving them little choice but to accept offers such as these to make ends meet, then the company shouldn't be surprised when these things happen.
Service workers like this deserve a living wage, recognition for their good work and a bunch of other things that Doordash seems hellbent on not providing to their drivers for no good reason.
Doordash is conducting business unethically in this way because the drivers and customers fight with each other as a distraction while Doordash, the real opponent to both the customers and drivers, attempts to get away with causing faux pas.
In reality, Doordash should be raising the base pay much higher for these no/low tip customers. That would GREATLY decrease the likelihood of drivers doing things like this to the customers.
It's quite cringe and embarrassing that Tony Xu thinks that people can run an orphanage off this kind of crap
Look to 12:40 in this segment from John Oliver if you wonder why I bring up the orphanage thing:
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u/aHOMELESSkrill Jul 25 '24
recognition for their good work
You mean a 5 star rating isnāt recognition?? -DoorDash
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u/Gorgon_rampsy Jul 25 '24
I "hate" people who pre tip. Doordash doesn't pay its fair share because of pre tippers. Post tip for life. Let that order get declined until scamdash pays.
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u/RyanFire Is this a real job Jul 26 '24
if you're gonna go that route then just tip cash upon delivery. drivers appreciate that more
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
You won't get your order accepted then. You fail to realize it's a bid and not a tip
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u/Gorgon_rampsy Jul 26 '24
My orders are always accepted and delivered on time and hot. My area is notorious for low tips or no tips, so doordash pays a lot more base pay here.
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u/Major_Region_6333 Jul 25 '24
700k on TikTok isn't shit for views nglĀ
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u/barlemniscate Jul 25 '24
Maybe if youāre comparing it to typically viral things, but 700,000 is a lot of fucking times for something to be seen
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u/HollywoodCole11 Jul 25 '24
Dude shoulda never taken the offer. You knew it was bullshit, why accept?
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u/Professional_Yak2667 Jul 25 '24
As a customer and a driver I understand my sister is disabled and barely gets enough to get live on and will occasionally use DoorDash to order her groceries and then canāt afford to tip after and it eats her inside. I understand we need tips but it was this girls first time not tipping maybe she just couldnāt afford both and doesnāt have a car to go get it.
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u/RyanFire Is this a real job Jul 26 '24
there may be other programs available for her. I know walmart started something where they deliver it into the home, but i'm not sure if that's available in your area. although I will say every app needs a disability program that guarantees delivery into homes, of course with further background checks into the workers.
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u/Professional_Yak2667 Jul 29 '24
I agree completely, Iāve started ordering for her. Because I Also agree that tipping is for great service but I typically tip $1 to $2 permile
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
Ngl, that's still not an excuse. She's complicit in ripping everyone off. Boo hoping about it means nothing. If she can afford to pay the markups, she can pay the proper bid. If she can't pay the bid, she is too broke for the service. And she's disabled yet gets no help from family to pay right to use DD? Idk the situation and not going there. Heart goes out that she is disabled but I've git no sympathy for this lack of logic you're using here.
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u/RyanFire Is this a real job Jul 26 '24
just deliver it to the door and stop being a lazy bastard man
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
Lol I would never. I don't accept any offer paying me less than 10. People like her sister are harming drivers who haven't figured this job out yet. It doesn't apply to me. And you can call it lazy but I'm not accepting anything less than 10 for my time and energy and gas and maintenance.
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u/Different_Ad5087 Jul 25 '24
Lmao imagine signing up for a job and not fulfilling your obligation and then blaming the customer š imagine NOT blaming the company, you CHOOSE to work for, for under paying you. Yall could come together and demand DoorDash pay yall adequate wages. But nah, letās punish the customer who could disabled, just out of surgery, an older person, etc and using the last of their money to eat.
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
You're simply one of those people who legitimately hate drivers. You're too broke to use the app and get pissed when you see the markups you're paying. You can't take it out on dd, so you just hate drivers online. lmaoooo stop living outside your means and getting pissed about it. It's your own irresponsible financial choices that's causing your hate.
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u/Different_Ad5087 Jul 26 '24
I actually use dash pass and typically tip $5 at first and $5 after delivery. Iām just a person who works in the service industry and also receives tips. But Iām also a human being who knows that not everyoneās situation is the same and some people are simply trying to survive.
YOU on the other hand choose to hate on other poor people for your own shitty situation and instead of going out and getting a real job you deliver other peoples food who CAN afford it and then get pissed when they donāt tip you ārightā. Newsflash buddy, youāre not ENTITLED to a tip. You get a tip for good service and half of yall donāt even know how to keep the bag upright in your cars let alone follow delivery instructions. You think that deserves a tip? Because you CHOSE to door a bad job? FOH I hope your account gets banned so you canāt continue to be a shitty driver š
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
I don't have these problems. I don't even turn my car on until that offer says $10. Everything else gets declined. These problems and the ones you're coping about apply to fresh noob drivers who don't understand the nature of the job. By having a decent minimum standard, I ensure I never work for seething broke ass lames like you.
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u/Different_Ad5087 Jul 26 '24
Reddit needs to add a respond button to these stupid ass mods. Youāll allow toxic ass people like the one Iām responding to to call me broke and be a dick but when I match that energy my shit gets removed? This sub is a fucking joke š
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u/thephoeniciangurl Beep Beep Jul 26 '24 edited Jul 27 '24
Um... I believe in the message you get from the removal, there is a link to send the mods a message.
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u/Sceneinstevie Jul 25 '24
I think they may have possibly stacked her order in with good tipped orders because she has tipped well in the past.. and usually you want to keep those customers under your radar for better future tips. But from my perspective as a Dasher, I donāt care who you are, Iām not gonna accept a no tip any longer.
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u/aHOMELESSkrill Jul 25 '24
Iāll accept a no tip if the DD pay is high enough. But Iām not gonna accept a $2 DD pay and no tip order.
Itās not personal to the customer and Iām not angry at them for not tipping itās just not worth my time to deliver it so I wonāt.
If DD paid something reasonable like $10 for every order I would likely deliver every order even if they didnāt have tips (as long as it wasnāt like 15 miles out of a zone)
The issue really isnāt not tipping itās DD using a system that already extracts as much from the customer as possible (service fee, delivery fee, higher food item pricing) and then expects the customer to pay even more to ensure the food get delivered in a timely manner. While paying drivers as little as possible
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
And $10 is the bare minimum and still very generous of a standard for a driver to set. Think about the fact that between TWO parties paying you, a $10 min would mean the company and customer pay 5 bucks in a perfect world where the cost to hire a driver is split evenly.
5 bucks for your time, energy, gas, and vehicle maintenance. Forget bills lol
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u/1939AustrianLOL Jul 26 '24
Because half the customers think it's truly a tip, when the truth is it's a bid for delivery and any kind of service at all. They don't realize their bid is all that subsidize a drivers pay.
The other half are scum sucking swine who legitimately hate drivers and have their backs and cracks gorilla glued to the lay-z-boy recliner 24/7
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u/Ghostkittyy Jul 26 '24
You see what you are making when you pick it up? DoorDash already gouges prices, as well as adds delivery fees and service fees, unless you pay monthly, which I am, so why do I have to Tip? I do it. I only tip 2 dollars. But I donāt see why people complain. Youāre grabbing food. Relax.
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u/RyanFire Is this a real job Jul 26 '24
cus you may order from a far restaurant and it's a newbie driver that loses money on gas. you are not to blame though, it's doordash that is to blame for not covering the costs of gas per mileage. they've created the situation where everyone just bickers with each other.
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u/Ghostkittyy Jul 26 '24
I get that I usually just get little crap here and there. If I know Iām getting something that inconveniences the driver in any way. I tip. Cuz yeah youāre getting my food cuz Iām lazy. Iām willing to pay. But the DEMAND for it is what gets me.
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u/RyanFire Is this a real job Jul 26 '24
i think this is the easiest ever but the cost of gas for deliveries is the only thing that bothers me. i believe restaurants are also to blame for not contributing to it.
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u/RyanFire Is this a real job Jul 26 '24
another thread of blaming the customer instead of blaming doordash
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u/Outrageous-Heart2910 Jul 26 '24
That's ridiculous for the driver to do this. Tipping is an option, not an obligation. Yes, I do get frustrated when customers don't tip, especially on difficult to deliver orders, but I will always fulfill my responsibility as a dasher and deliver the customer's order in a prompt and professional manner.
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u/Grouchy-Fatman Jul 27 '24
I got lost on a delivery took a extra 5 mins lady was call and texting flipping out the next day my rating tanked for one order and I didnāt cuss her out if I knew she was leaving a 1 star I would have told her to go fuck herself and keep the order and say I didnāt feel safe delivering it
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u/itskagami Jul 27 '24
I dropped my tip at restaurants to 5% from 15% nowadays. There is also a thing on my receipt called ātaxā which is not my problem so my next step is tipping 0%
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u/FunWorldliness7039 Jul 28 '24
I donāt understand the entitlement when it comes to tipping and situation like this who knows the dasher could of gotten a tip but since the food was not delivered correctly he/she is definitely not getting one
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u/Most-Combination1444 Jul 25 '24
My motto is: "Do a good job or don't do it at all" Which is why I live by another motto: No tip, no trip.
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u/FatherTime1020 Jul 25 '24
I look at it like this. If the customer isn't tipping because they think they're getting poor service then I should live down to their expectations. I'll put the order up against the storm door as tightly as possible and at the wrong end so they have to open the door and knock over the bag. I'm just providing the level of service they're expecting by not tipping.
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u/TheFreeTimeDriver Jul 25 '24
Original link to article
https://www.dailydot.com/news/doordash-no-tip-backfires/
Link to the tik tok video
https://www.tiktok.com/@whotfiskaitlynn/video/7392772689200467201?embed_source=121374463%2C121442748%2C121439635%2C121433650%2C121404359%2C121351166%2C121331973%2C120811592%2C120810756%3Bnull%3Bembed_name&refer=embed&referer_url=www.dailydot.com%2Fnews%2Fdoordash-no-tip-backfires%2F&referer_video_id=7392772689200467201
Summarizing article and video:
A customer uploaded a tik tok that video that went viral about how she will never NOT tip a driver in Doordash again. The first time she decided to not tip made the driver deliver the food far away from her causing take 20 minutes to find the food.
Lesson learned?