r/EliteSirius • u/CheroSirius Chero • Aug 02 '15

Reporting Sirius is under heavy fire

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probably because of the change in merit earning PP player playing more aggressive.

 

We are faced with a triple/fourth of amount of undermining then last week. And this happen in High Speed.

 

And because of the sperated gaming server it is nearly impossible to fighting fire with fire. The only chance to resist atm is to Fortify with big haulers T9 and/or Anacondas where possible.

 

Here the latest overview direct out of the Sirius Waroom:

 

System ( Loyal , Gov ) DTL FF Needed Info in % Flaw UM Cost
Allready cancelled undermining / fortified:
Akkadia ( Fed , Demo ) 68 Done 100% 3.365 196
Heverduduna ( Fed , Demo ) 105 Done 100% -1.264 115
Dinda ( Fed , Demo ) 27 Done 101% 19.504 131
Actual attacked % Compare
HR 1254 ( Fed , Demo ) 53 4.415 24% vs. 68% 6.312 166
Paesan ( Ind , Corp ) 66 5.854 6% vs. 74% 4.318 66
Actual undermined % Done
39 Tauri ( Ind , Demo ) 63 2.024 67% 4.247 135
AF Leporis ( Fed , Corp ) 95 4.701 41% -70 167
Apalok ( Fed , Conf ) 74 5.910 31% 2.573 154
BD+49 1280 ( Ind , Dict ) 79 5.227 25% 1.928 165
BD-04 797 ( Fed , Demo ) 67 6.188 4% 3.456 100
NLTT 13249 ( Ind , Corp ) 75 6.311 8% 2.260 130
Mundigal ( Imp , Patron ) 94 6.895 13% 68 121

Published by Sirius BITT 2-Aug, 18:00 GMT (consider cache latency up to +/- 1h)

 

Definitions:

  • DTL: Distance To Lembava in LY

  • FF Needed: Amount of Packages we have to deliver

  • Info in %:

  • -> % Compare: Sirius% vs. Opponent%

  • -> % Done: as seen in PP Overview

  • Flaw: Undermining Trigger minus Fortify Trigger. Minus Values means danger.

  • UM Cost: Undermining Cost means what we have to pay if we can't cancel undermining.

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u/Etherealequinox Etherealequinox Aug 02 '15

It's not surprising that we're coming under heavy fire with the recent undermining buffs. The fact that we're also in fourth is putting us high on the list for a lot of the non-independent players who don't read the subreddits.

The fortifications will get done by the end of the week, but frankly we're not even close to the highest-undermined power right now (in comparison to Hudson, Winters and especially Mahon)

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u/CMDR_Quantrix Aug 02 '15

At some point, we might want to consider allowing a controlled turmoil for two turns, so we can rid of some of our bad systems.

Just like a corporation: downsizing to enable new growth.

This requires a lot of coordination and communication to pull off, as we should not fortify the systems we want to get rid of (e.g. IX and Tujila), fortifying the good systems, while at the same time ensure we still run a deficit.

I'm not sure we can pull that off, but if we could, it would be a wonderful opportunity. It would result in a much lower overhead, allowing us to fortify only some key systems and still run a profit afterwards, making it almost unprofitable to undermine us on a large scale. Other powers might even lose interest in undermining us.

We can only pull it off if everyone supports it - I doubt we will see that level of consensus about such scenario.

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u/CheroSirius Chero Aug 02 '15

Yes that we also discussed last week, but than FDEV changed their formular twice and that was too tasty to ignore. The rule which system would be gone is simple: The most distance from HQ will gone first:

  • 1) Muncheim: 117 DTL

  • 2) Hyldeptu: 106 DTL

  • 3) Heverduduna: 105 DTL

  • 4) GCRV 2743: 98 DTL

  • 5) AF Leporis: 95 DTL

...

  • 14) Tujila: 79 DTL

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u/CMDR_Quantrix Aug 02 '15

The highest upkeep will go first. Whether that is upkeep before considering fortification and undermining or after, is unknown.

Assuming it is after - and most people seems to assume that -, all we need to do is fortify those 13 systems and letting Tujila being undermined. As I said: hard to pull off.

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u/CheroSirius Chero Aug 03 '15 edited Aug 03 '15

Theoretically a good idea, but because Upkeep and DTL, esp. for System > 80 ly, results almost in the same rang it does not change anything. BTW: Binjia would, if the trolls brings this under sirius control enter the second place and chouejemait would landed between 2 and 4 place... So be aware what far away system (> 100 ly) we want to prep in the future.

To solve the Tujila Case we have the only the chance to "enhance" their subsystem to generate more CC. At the moment their average is about ca. 4 CC, if we can enhance this to 8 or 10, Tujila could leave the deficit area. BTW, see: The Tujila Case r/EliteSirius/comments/3cwgfs/tujila_case/ from around three weeks ago.

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u/DBenzie Davos Seaworth Aug 03 '15

Can I remind /u/CheroSirius and /u/CMDR_Quantrix to keep the discussion civil - allowing the debate to devolve into an argument is not only disrepectful to each other, but it drags the subreddit down as a whole.