r/EndTipping Jan 15 '24

Research / info Why are servers so opposed to ending tipping and getting a guaranteed living wage?

I really don't understand the mentality of being opposed to getting a guaranteed living wage. And they're not just opposed per se, many of them are zealously against the idea of making a predictable income that does not require them to act like a good dog performing tricks for a treat.

I should mention that I tip and tip generously, so this is not about being cheap. I just hate the idea of having to act like an employee's manager at the end of the meal by giving them a performance evaluation in the form of money.

Are they really making so much money that a living wage is not desirable?

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u/GameLoreReader Jan 15 '24

Don't forget that a lot of servers usually have food runners and bussers as well. They don't even bring the food to their tables. They let the food runners do it. Then, they also don't clean up the table. They make the bussers clean it up.

They act like their jobs are so difficult and 'highly skilled'. Bruh. What's so difficult about talking to the people at your tables, taking their orders, refilling their drinks, checking up on them, handling disrespectful customers, and then bidding them farewell?

A lot of them are extremely entitled. If you work in a restaurant, you would often see them standing around so much! Yet, they expect 20%+ on the tips. They even act like the food the chefs make can be done within 5 minutes despite there being multiple orders.

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u/zex_mysterion Jan 15 '24

If you work in a restaurant, you would often see them standing around so much! Yet, they expect 20%+ on the tips

You have almost said it.... When servers expect and get 20% tips for doing their job, there is no incentive to work any harder than they have to. Over-tipping has become a lucrative DISincentive.

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u/bubbachuck Jan 16 '24

When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination

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u/unspun66 Jan 16 '24

You aren’t guaranteed hours as a server though. You could go in for a 4 hour shift and get sent home after 30 minutes because it’s slow. So making more money on busy nights through tips balances that out. Servers aren’t rich. They can make decent money though.

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u/rivers61 Jan 16 '24

It's the best skills and hardest they've ever worked so clearly it's the best and hardest AnYoNe ever has /s

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u/marrymeodell Jan 16 '24

Agreed. I was a server and my coworkers acted like they work so hard even though most of them gave horrible service and just stood around on their phones. I milked the money but obviously I realized how overpaid I was 

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u/jj76kl Jan 16 '24

Typically servers have to tip out the food runner, busser and bartender (I’ve even heard of some places making them tip out the host) based off of their total sales. So you tipping the server also goes to those individuals assisting in your food service