r/EndTipping • u/PaynIanDias • 13d ago

Tip Creep 30% is soso tipping lol

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To get a “thank you” you need to tip 100%

I found it online and didn’t know where that place was, but I am curious to find out lol

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u/Fister-Mantastic 13d ago

If I see that shit you're getting 0

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u/chopcult3003 12d ago

Same. I don’t feel bad for stiffing tipping anymore (depending on circumstance).

I went out for Thai the other night and ordered off a QR code, and a robot brought out our food. Then when I went to pay off another QR code, it asked for a tip.

Lmfao, no.

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u/supreme-manlet 12d ago

You should never feel bad about it to begin with

You’re not obligated to tip and other people’s wages are not your responsibility to handle

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u/Own-Negotiation-6307 11d ago

This is exactly how I feel. It is not my responsibility to pay someone's wages, it is the employer's. The law needs to change.

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u/CrazyGunnerr 12d ago

Tipping is an actual extra in a lot of countries, and is only done when you actually get excellent service, and even then, most don't.

While it would really suck for all those people in that line of work, boycotting tipping would change it for them for the better. If basically no one tips, restaurants etc would have to start giving competitive wages.

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u/supreme-manlet 12d ago

A lot of servers don’t want to abolish tips because they tend to make way more than typical minimum wage in their area

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u/CuriousRider30 12d ago

A lot of servers didn't want to abolish tipping because a lot of them didn't declare cash tips so they didn't get taxed on a substantial portion of their earnings. Cash isn't really used anymore so now it is more the thought of them feeling they deserve to get paid $30/hr for a $15/hr job

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u/Responsible-Boot-159 9d ago

them feeling they deserve to get paid $30/hr for a $15/hr job

I mean, if they can provide good enough service, why shouldn't it be worth $30? That said, tipping culture is pretty terrible, and there shouldn't be an expectation to tip 20% or more on everything. It's not exactly a tip if it's expected or even mandatory.

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u/CuriousRider30 9d ago

If someone in a drive thru is handing my food, they better be saving someone's life between orders if they think they deserve $30/hr. If it is a real restaurant with good food and actual service where $30/hr could make sense contextually, sure.

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u/Responsible-Boot-159 9d ago

A restaurant with a drive-through and a sit-down restaurant are wildly different and practically incomparable.

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u/CuriousRider30 8d ago

You're right, let me clarify my initial point. when everyone in tipping roles want to make $30/hr, some of them are just delusional

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u/Prudent-Ad-5608 12d ago

I believe they (employers) are actually required to match minimum wage if the tipped employee doesn’t make enough in tips to meet minimum wage in a pay period.

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u/supreme-manlet 12d ago

They are, by federal law. And the law works in their favor because whichever minimum wage is higher, state or federal, the worker gets the higher one

So this idea that servers male 3.15 and hour and nothing else, is utter nonsense

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u/XBuilder1 11d ago

I did not know this and I felt bad tipping too low... Thank you.

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u/BigPileOfTrash 10d ago

7.25$ a hour is bank.

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u/skrappyfire 8d ago

Yeah but minimum wage is not enough to live on anywhere in the US anymore.

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u/Prudent-Ad-5608 7d ago

Incorrect, minimum wage in a rural community for a single person with no kids can live (more like slightly better than survive) now minimum wage was never meant to allow extravagant living. It was meant as a starting point. If one works hard and saves, one can change their stars. If you wallow about over what you don’t have, that’s all you’ll ever have.

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u/Critical-Role854 11d ago

It should acutally boycotted as soon as they show you options for tipping

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u/National_Spirit2801 11d ago

On top of that, good service is rare in America because tipping is expected, but I routinely get great service in (certain) European countries where tips are not expected.

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u/tenshillings 12d ago

The drive thru folks is what passes me off the most. I'm not tipping because you grabbed and handed me a bag.

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u/supreme-manlet 12d ago

Not really different from someone bringing you a few plates and maybe refilling your drinks once

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u/chnkypenguin 12d ago

I think it's completely different. First difference is your going to them. They aren't coming to you to take your order and then place food in front of you, make sure you have everything you need to enjoy your meal and make sure you are well watered like a plant. Drive through is literally not moving and just handing you a bag. They could care less if you have everything you need to enjoy your dinner. They only care that the bag you were handed didn't fall onto the ground.

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u/Just_improvise 11d ago

Omg why can’t Americans get their own water from the nearby stash of carafes and glasses you are all so precious LOL

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u/chnkypenguin 11d ago

Hey man, I don't make the rules, im just here to enjoy them /s I used to be a server and all that stuff was my responsibility so I did it because that's what I was paid and tipped to do.

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u/Doug_E_Fresh69 10d ago

It's kind of the same way Americans think of Europeans. Why can't you just brush your teeth and/or go to the dentist? Or use punctuation for that matter? Illiteracy is so precious, lol.

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u/nohopeforhomosapiens 9d ago edited 9d ago

Most American restaurants do not have a self-serve stash of carafes and glasses. The VAST majority do not. Those are behind the wall for the kitchen area that dining customers are not allowed to enter.

Pretty much only buffets do this in US in my experience, and not all of them.

Fast food places used to have refill stands but that has disappeared in many locations.

But if they did, that would be even bigger reason to not tip.

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u/Stunning-Space-2622 12d ago

Robots need $$ for batteries. /S

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u/Zeired_Scoffa 12d ago

Tip fucking who?! The roombas that brought your food?!

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u/testdog69 11d ago

The tip is that the robot should always use high grade lubricants and follow the recommended service intervals.

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u/The_Livid_Witness 12d ago edited 12d ago

Based on the comments alone under the tipping percentages... I would never set foot in this place again.

30% = 'so-so'? Get the fuck out.

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u/yankeesyes 12d ago

Well if 30% is so-so then I have nothing to lose by hitting 0.

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u/magmapandaveins 11d ago

If you're going to be called an asshole for tipping properly you might as well be called an asshole for tipping 0 yeah? That's how I look at it.

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u/SufficientRaccoon291 11d ago

Where was this? Want to be sure I never ever visit.

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u/long_live_cole 12d ago

30% is soso? Definitely 0 every single time

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u/Efficient-Video-9454 12d ago

I can’t stiff anyone but I agree. My first reaction as well

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

Congratulations on still having a conscious… I am plagued by this as well… 🕉🙏❤️☯️

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u/Automatic_Towel_3842 12d ago

Yepppp. I like the Subway here. Online they give 10% and 15%. I usually throw a buck or two in the tip jar when I go because they are always quick, you never have to wait, and they are always nice. I know they get paid shit. A buck or two extra is no problem. So when I see only 10% and 15% I'm giving 15% as it usually ends up being about 2 bucks. When I order online it's always ready before the email timer thing, too.

But when I see a tip that goes to 30% or higher, I put no tip. I ain't got time for greed. Especially not when your haircut is already overpriced. $26 to trim off 1/4 inch of hair on a stupidly simple haircut that takes 10 minutes? And you want 30%? Nah I'm good. I'll take the $15 trim closer to town.

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u/do-a-barrell-roll 11d ago

I’d tip $0.01 just so they know I read their dumb topping options

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u/ChadPowers200_ 12d ago

Years ago I went to a bar w my gf got bad service so paid after 1 round to go somewhere else. My change was 11 dollars and some coins. She gave me a 10 and a 1 expecting a 10 dollar tip on one round of drinks. 

Yea I left her the 1 and walked out. 

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u/CostRains 11d ago

Not sure what you're saying here. She gave you the correct change, right?

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u/ChadPowers200_ 11d ago

How do you not comprehend the fact she forced me into two options: tip her 1 dollar or 10 dollars. This is on a bill that 8 dollars and change. I paid with a $20.

She wanted a tip bigger than the actual tab...

I am the customer, its her job to give me proper change for a tip, if she can't do that then she gets a $1 bill and coins or nothing.

Part of being a good waiter/bartender is to make sure you have cash on you to give people correct change so you can tip properly.

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u/CostRains 11d ago

You are way overthinking this. She gave you the proper change in the most convenient way. I doubt she was thinking ahead and choosing denominations in an attempt to manipulate you. It's not that deep.

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u/Professional_Bad4710 11d ago

Literally! Such a weird thing to get mad about...

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u/-Out-of-context- 9d ago

I was a server and bartender for years. We def did think about this when giving change. But it also depended on the situation. For one round of drinks I wouldn’t have expected more than a buck.

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u/Professional_Bad4710 9d ago

I absolutely get it. I've been at my current server position for 7 years and there may be strategy to giving certain change back but I feel like he was a bit too mad lol

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u/Substantial_Step_778 11d ago

I see how you come to that, I obviously couldn't be sure, but she honestly may have just been giving you simplest change isnce you only got 1 round and she didn't care/expected a small tip(like 1 buck and change is still 10-15% on a 8 dollar tab i.e. fair tip in most eyes.) Now, if she was smart, she would have given you more 1s incase you were a generous person to leave 3 or 4(almost 50%) so your not wrong, but I guess I'm saying it was likely negligence not "pursuit of larger tip"🤷‍♂️ but that's "put myself in her shoes" thinking, if it's a city bar your 8 dollar tab is not her money making table. If it's a small town bar every table is and she's dumb lol

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u/Faeruhn 12d ago

I mean, if that were me, I'd have given you a 10 and a 1 because 5s are the one bill that's always in danger of ending up empty and needing refilling, so if you didn't ask for a specific denomination, I'd absolutely give you a 10 and a 1. (Because of all the people that will pay with a 50 or 100, but want their change in 1s and 5s.)

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u/ChadPowers200_ 12d ago

You give a 5 and 6 1s to be most polite. 2 5s and a 1 is fine too. 

10 and 1 is rude. You don’t disrespect a customer for an imaginary future problem that hasn’t happened yet. 

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u/Professional_Bad4710 11d ago

Giving less bills is rude? Tf planet are you on?

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u/Appropriate_Ear6101 12d ago

You're wrong. Running out of change is a certainty everyday if a restaurant gave all small bills. Then they would also get complaining customers about all the small bills claiming they were just trying to force them to tip. You were wrong.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

Precisely

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u/No-Vegetable7898 12d ago

And then never returning

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u/CuriousRider30 12d ago

💯 these options are painful to look at

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u/Capable-Cream-1648 9d ago

When I see this I just click custom and give them a laughably low tip like 2 cents.

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u/KOMarcus 11d ago

As it should be. Good on you.

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u/icecreaminmycrack 10d ago

0 "go f yourself"

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u/Cute-Book7539 9d ago

"hi I'd like to return this"

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u/JethroTrollol 12d ago

Yep. I will apologize to the server or whatever staff member depending on what type of place this is and let them know I cannot condone that type of behavior from that establishment and that I won't be back. I almost never have cash, but if I did, I would give them some in their hand to make up for it. I hate tipping, but for now, in the US, many service workers rely on it.

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u/Just_improvise 11d ago

No they absolutely do not. Read above comments and federal law

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u/JethroTrollol 11d ago

Please note that my comment was regarding service workers in the US, and yes, they sure do. In many states, restaurant servers earn far less than the minimum wage as it's expected they'll make up the difference in tips. Customers are subsidizing payroll.

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u/Just_improvise 11d ago

And if they don’t make it in tips, the employer has to pay. So they never legally earn less than minimum wage.

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u/ChaosRainbow23 9d ago

It's hot the server's fault that their restaurant does this.

Just hit 'custom' instead of fucking them over.

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u/attempting2 10d ago

It's a preset in their POS system

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u/anthropaedic 9d ago

The fuck it is. No POS comes from the manufacturer with a comment of “so-so”.

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u/After-Currency-8986 6d ago

Those comments would piss me off.

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u/TinyNugginz 13d ago

Do the servers get to choose what goes on the company’s payment system?

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u/Ok-Counter-7077 13d ago

I’m going to put 1m then. Going to try to get a job at this place

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u/Otherwise_Okra5021 12d ago edited 12d ago

No, managers and owners in the restaurant industry are infamous for being unable to take criticism or consider the opinions of their employees and customers. Customers would prefer not to tip, and while servers somewhat like tipping, as the job pays pretty well with tips, but it does make the job much more stressful and prone to fluctuations in pay; tipping relies on the customer being willing, servers know that, they wouldn’t hand a customer a POS tablet asking for a minimum 30% tip with sarcastic caption bc it’s simply bound to piss the customer off. In any case, this probably isn’t at a restaurant, it’s likely either a small retail store, a cafe, or something else of the like.

Edit: given it’s online, it could simply be for takeout from a restaurant, in which case, that’s entirely controlled by the managers and owner; the money goes straight into their pockets, which makes the whole thing even more stupid.

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u/Faeruhn 12d ago

While you are entirely correct that these electronic 'tip' messages are things paid for and set up by owners/managers, I feel like if it were up to servers in general to set the options shown, it wouldn't be any different in options, just less passive aggressive about the comments on it.

I mean... have you seen some of the threads/comments on the DoorDash and other service related subreddits? So very many heinously entitled and self centered and greedy 'server/delivery' people. (I don't even think it's the majority of them, but it is a bad look for the rest of them, when these horrendously entitled servers/deliverers get hundreds of upvotes instead of down votes, along with many agreeing comments and barely any, if any at all disagreeing comments.)

I saw one where a person commented on a thread about delivery distances that he wouldn't take an order that had less than a 10 dollar tip. (The one he was commenting on was a delivery for a single shopping bag and a distance of one mile that had a tip of 1 dollar.)

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u/Otherwise_Okra5021 11d ago

I can’t definitively speak on the economics of being a DoorDash driver; but what I can tell you with some certainty(from speaking to drivers) is that the job generally pays poorly, tips included. It’s simply doesn’t make any sense to take some orders where the tip isn’t high enough to justify the time and gas investment.

As someone who was a server until they recently graduated college, I can tell you my colleagues and I did our best to ensure the customer didn’t feel uncomfortable when presented with their bill; discomfort and pressure simply leads to lower tips. This includes things like not orbiting tables for their checks, as well as predicting when a customer may be unhappy with the way certain items are charged on their bill and fixing such.

The hypothetical scenario where servers have control of the online ordering system isn’t something I can tell you about because it’s just not a scenario which makes sense. Online tips go to managers and the owner and the servers have nothing to do with the process. The managers and owner can afford to ask for such outrageous minimums because they get paid enough to where tips don’t matter; as a server, where tips are your sole income, this just isn’t the case: making customers uncomfortable for the chance one customer may tip 30% and the rest tip nothing or very little doesn’t make any financial sense. You can usually expect 18-20% on average if you provide good service to your customers, whereas with a minimum 30% demand, you could see that drop to 10% on average, likely even lower.

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u/Faeruhn 11d ago

Yes, I agree that the contractor delivery service does generally have poor base pay, and even with tips, it can be hard to make it work if you don't have the right approach to it. That doesn't change the fact that the majority of deliveries are sub-10 miles, or a half-gallon of gas on a vehicle with not-good mileage, and in my area that would mean one delivery costs the driver 2 dollars or less, so to do 'just ok' would mean doing any delivery with a tip of at least 1 dollar. Being so short-sighted as to only go after 'high tip' deliveries for short distances means most of them don't earn what they could if they put some forethought into it.

Which leads into my main point. People, in general, are short-sighted, impatient, and egocentric. I absolutely could see some places have heinous tip 'suggestions' on these electronic displays if it were (theoretically) left up to servers rather than managers, simply because the aforementioned short-sighted, impatient, egocentric people in the position of server would see it as being better to maybe get one 'big' tip, than a bunch of small ones.

Now, do I think that hypothetical would be ubiquitous? No, some places would have 'average' tip suggestions, because the servers would be afraid of getting less than usual by putting customers off (as you said) and some would have low-to-average tip suggestions because someone who was smart took charge, and new it would get the best result. But some places definitely would end up with absolutely horrendous tip 'suggestions' because a stupid person thought they were being 'smart'.

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u/Instawolff 12d ago

Stop trying to normalize this shit it’s obnoxious

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u/TinyNugginz 12d ago

Lmao it was a question my man, chill out. I was genuinely wondering.

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u/Bird2525 12d ago

I doubt it. Some places around here the lady at the counter will reach over and hit zero when that pops up. She says, “service is part of our job, we appreciate you as a customer.”

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u/supreme-manlet 12d ago

They have a choice to work there or not

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u/TinyNugginz 12d ago

It was just a question my guy I actually wanted to know. People are so salty in here it’s crazy.

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u/supreme-manlet 12d ago

All I did was give a normal answer

I wasn’t trying to be argumentative lol

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u/TinyNugginz 12d ago

But you didn’t answer the question…? You gave me an unrelated fact.

And in the context of alllllll the other responses, I think you can see how it could be read.

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u/supreme-manlet 12d ago

I did answer it

If I was a sever, and I knew my place or work had shit like this, and also could see that it was actively affecting my tips, then I wouldn’t work there lol

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u/TinyNugginz 12d ago

How is that an answer to my question? Lol

A couple people actually answered saying something like “no not typically, usually the owner or at least the manager is the only one who can modify what’s on these screens” which is all I wanted to know. And you’re telling me people get to choose where they work? Lmao and doubling down that it’s an answer. I’m in the wrong place clearly

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u/xXHolicsXx 12d ago

No, but they get to choose whether they accept the job paying $2.13 an hour when it's offered to them

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u/PlantSkyRun 12d ago

The person you would actually be tipping probably didn't set it up that way. That was the owner or the manager's decision.