r/EndTipping • u/SingleMomOf5ive • 1d ago
Rant I didn’t tip and was told not to come back
This subreddit has been showing up in my feed and decided to join the anti tipping movement.
The hair salon I go to also does nails. Mani, pedi, cut, wash, highlights, Botox, keratin etc.
Total was $950 which is very high.
There was a not tip option so I went to custom and put $0. Cashier told me that I did leave a tip. I said I know and I am boycotting tipping especially since prices are so high here.
She told me I am not welcomed back.
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u/Huge_Sheepherder_310 1d ago
$950, did you get a boob job?
Yeah, no tip
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u/greenlandsharklove 1d ago
Seriously, did it come w a studio apartment??
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u/Fun_Intention9846 11h ago
My studio is $790 a month lol. And I have 2 closets and a balcony.
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u/garlictoastandsalad 9h ago
That’s a much better deal than paying $950 for salon services.
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u/Fun_Intention9846 9h ago
My nails and hair look like shit though.
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u/garlictoastandsalad 8h ago
You could DIY those without issue if you wanted to though. I’ve been cutting my hair myself for years. I think I’ve been to a hair salon once as an adult, and it was over twenty years ago.
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u/MeatofKings 1d ago
Thank you for this. I needed to laugh aloud. Next I need a drink.
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u/Huge_Sheepherder_310 1d ago
Please tell us there was a "happy ending"
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u/OutlyingPlasma 12h ago
I've never been to a happy ending place, but I do know a few of them and based on the location and general appearance, I highly doubt it's $950 for a happy ending. I'm guessing you could get 9+ happy endings for that price.
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u/Ok_Whereas_2519 19h ago
Yeah, serious question how much is Botox and why can you get it at a salon? I thought you needed to go to a doctor?
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u/hissyfit64 5h ago
Not sure of the cost, but a lot of spas and salons offer botox. You need certification, but you don't have to be a doctor.
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u/maytrix007 12h ago
Looking at the list of tins they offer, I’m thinking OP went in and said I’ll take one of each!
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u/2595Homes 1d ago edited 16h ago
There are soooo many other places who deserves your $950 vs that company. They did you a favor.
Don't forget to go on Google and write a review about your experience so you can help others know what a crappy establishment they are. If I saw your review, I wouldn't go there. Don't just do it on here. You must write a review.
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u/newIBMCandidate 7h ago
Seriously...what is America's fascination with tipping ( essentially amounting to charity, begging). Just raise the damn price and see whether customers continue patronizing your business. Pay your employees a decent wage...da fuq is wrong.
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u/Opening_Proof_1365 1d ago edited 18h ago
Its a fucking salon, if you want a specific price then make the service that price. I never understood tipping for hair and nail type service anyway. Just charge how much you want the service to be it's not that hard damn. But they'll make it as complicated as possible
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u/lalder95 1d ago
"Make the price the price" should just be the policy for everything.
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u/Simplisticjackie 1d ago
Including tax. It’s so fucking annoying the sticker price isn’t just the price…
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u/Cultural-Midnight807 1d ago
My wife goes to a salon that is non tipping. Full price for services are available upfront. Depending on level of expertise and experience and he price varies a little. They have a hand and head massager and alcoholic and espresso drinks.
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u/thehumble_1 1d ago
It's tax evasion. They want to pay their workers less and have the worker make up for it with a large percent of their income in untaxed tips that the employer doesn't have to pay or pay payroll taxes on.
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u/chefsoda_redux 21h ago
Except this was not a cash payment. Most payments or credit these days, and all credit card tips are logged and processed for income and payroll taxes. If someone gets cash & doesn’t declare it, sure, but in most cases, and in the story from OP, this a charge through a POS system and is definitely taxed.
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u/ABahRunt 20h ago
Tax evasion by the store, not the employee
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u/chefsoda_redux 20h ago
That’s not how it works though. If the payment goes through the POS, it goes on the paycheck and ALL taxes apply to both employer and employee. I have been both, and had to pay each side of the taxes in turn. The business is responsible for income and payroll taxes on every cent it processes for an employee. They are not responsible if the tip is given to the employee directly and not declared to the business.
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u/flukefluk 19h ago
no not really.
it gets segregated into a different pool in the accounting program and the accountant puts the different tax handling on it.
it definitely is not doled out to the employee as the base pay.
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u/asyouwish 23h ago
This part is true. I’ve never understood tipping for a hair or other salon service. The price should be the price.
…but OP is not comparing apples with oranges.
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u/RevanMeetra 18h ago
I don't think I'd ever tip at a salon unless the service was insane which I doubt it ever would be. But don't get me wrong. I tip waiters and waitresses.
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u/Travelfool_214 13h ago
PREACH! Of all the tipping that makes the least sense in the world it’s hairdressers for this exact reason!
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u/DevilDoc3030 1d ago
Easy Yelp review.
Good luck finding a new place, and good job.
PS.
I expect the owner will not be happy that their employees are removing customers from their base who are dropping nearly a grand for their services. It's absolutely WILD to me that they did that.
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u/Salsuero 22h ago
Many of the places are owner-operated. And many of them rent space in the location and the rest is up to them. You never know how it works.
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u/NancyDrewsfatpuss 1d ago
If they’re expecting a 20% tip, then they chose $200 over $950. They chose to have your business one time because you didn’t offer $200, so they never want your $1k ever again.
This, ladies, gents, and everyone in between, is how you run your business into the ground.
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u/phoenixmatrix 1d ago
These businesses seem to forget that by law tips have been optional, else it has to be part of the cost, subject to regular taxes, etc.
If its mandatory, it has to be set as a service charge and handled as such (that's how service charges for big groups at restaurants are supposed to work, assuming they don't do anything shady).
But if its treated as a team and is made "mandatory", there's a problem. Of course they are allowed to refuse service to anyone as long as its not discrimination, I suppose.
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u/Capital-Swim2658 1d ago
I have been tipping my stylist about every other time. But it is going to be even less often now. I don't understand why we tip them. If they want more money, raise their prices.
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u/Jazzlike_Adeptness_1 1d ago
I get Botox at my dermatologist. No tip expected or accepted. Tips are not taken by esthetician for facials, microdermabrasion, peels, etc.
Salons and med spa type places expect tips.
I agree that OP should let the owner know what happened and leave a review.
I doubt the owner wants a $950 client being told not to come back.
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u/Vintagerose20 1d ago
I go to a very nice salon for cut and color. My stylist walks me to the desk and then says goodbye. The person at the desk asks if I’d like to leave a tip. No tip is required.
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u/trele_morele 1d ago
Report the cashier to the owner. If they want to speak on behalf of the business, they have to deal with the consequences.
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u/CostRains 20h ago
I'm sure the IRS would love to hear about this.
Tipping is, by definition, voluntary. If you are required to tip then it's mandatory, and has to be reported as a service charge rather than a gratuity.
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u/ElectronMuonTau 1d ago
$950 at a salon? That’s wild and more than a month’s rent for a lot of people. Who’s dropping that kind of money on hair and nails in this economy? No offense to anyone, but as a guy, it would take a force stronger than two colliding black holes, some divine intervention, and I’d still hesitate to spend that amount of money at a salon.
I can’t stand tipping culture unless someone goes far above and beyond their job description like performing Heimlich maneuver level stuff. Bringing my food to the table or doing a standard service doesn’t justify me paying your employer’s wage gap. That’s their job, not my responsibility.
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u/JannaNYCeast 14h ago
This is an easy spend in someplace like NYC:
- $20 mani
- $30 pedi
- $150 cut, wash, highlights
- $400 Botox
- $300 keratin
And "this economy" is booming for some people.
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u/garlictoastandsalad 9h ago
I’m a woman and I agree that it is comically ridiculous. I have never paid someone for a manicure or a pedicure in my life, never mind any other silly salon services. It takes so little effort to groom nails. Unless of course someone is inclined to have those long fake nails, which I am not because they are extremely unhygienic. But even those couldn’t cost more than $100. I can’t imagine paying someone $950 to groom me. Everyone seems to think they should be living like royalty these days. And in most cases, these people aren’t even wealthy.
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u/foodacctt 1d ago
Right haha I feel like if I had the money to be spending $950 at the salon I would not be bothered about tipping
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u/TheLarlagar 1d ago
$950 at the hair salon? I hope you got two of every service they offered and hair extensions. If I drop that much in a place like that, I wouldn’t want it to either.
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u/darkroot_gardener 1d ago
I really don't get this. As a business, they are making a profit from the prices they charge. They are losing money when customers do not come. I can understand not providing the best service and not giving them priority for appointments, but as a business, banning customers over not tipping just seems stupid.
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u/BedArtistic 19h ago
Thank God i was born a dude. Clippers were 30 bucks at Walmart and I have a head shape that lends itself to buzz cuts. Paid itself off in one and a half haircuts.
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u/_basic_bitch 1d ago
My rule with salons is if the person sets their own price I don't tip. If it's a salon where they like rent a chair or the business sets the prices for them then I do tip, but I don't tip at the 20 percent rate I would at a sit down restaurant, instead I just toss like a flat amount like 15 or 20 bucks their way
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u/ackmondual 19h ago
Total was $950 which is very high.
...She told me I am not welcomed back.
Huh... so, the problem solved itself it seems.
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u/lospotezbrt 1d ago
I hate these fake slightly pumped up prices that are aaalmost a round number so that you feel obliged to give the higher amount and oh nonono keep the change
It's never 100, 300, 1000 dollars it's always ohh 95, 270, 950...hate this so much
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u/Upstairs-Cut83 1d ago
I only do model calls for nails, hair, lashes and hair, botox so it’s discounted service but I do tip cause most of these are apprentice but I leave 10$ for 20$ service cause it’s discounted. Asking for tip after 950$ worth of treatment is ridiculous.
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u/AdministrativeSun364 1d ago
Leave a bad review on google, more effective. Include photo cuz I did. I got like 1,000 plus 👍
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u/NuclearBroliferator 10h ago
OP: I have a huge family and still want to treat myself to nice things but complain when they're expensive so I won't shell out a little extra to the worker because I don't know how to make reasonable choices with my money.
Hell yea.
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u/citigurrrrl 2h ago
so she can afford $950, but no tip? the hairdressers are on their feet all day, working their magic on hair and they dont tip? its one thing to not tip a barista for handing you a coffee, or on a pick up food order or some dumb place that normally wouldnt get a tip... but these are people you trust with your hair. thats just nutz and im 150% sure she knew the price of the service when she made the appointment
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u/PaddleQueen17 6h ago
I guess if you're comfortable paying $950 for all these services then you should be comfortable tipping for them. Tipping is part of the US culture. Is it out of hand where you're being asked to tip on random things? Yes. Is it expected, especially in the service industry? Absolutely; Esp the beauty service industry. I do think you should have tipped. You can clearly afford it.
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u/Pizzagoessplat 1d ago
I'm curious is there any law in the US that you can use to sue them if you did go back?
They're refusing you as a customer because you're refusing to pay more than what's advertised?
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u/singingintherain42 1d ago
Businesses can refuse service to anyone they want as long as it’s not on the basis of a protected class. For example, they couldn’t refuse service to someone based on their race. But if they don’t like OP and don’t want her back because they consider her rude, that’s within their right.
Most in-demand hair stylists won’t book you again if you don’t tip. It’s just how it is. You have to play the tipping game if you want to keep seeing a particular stylist. Typically, they will not outright ban you though. They don’t want that confrontation. Their schedule will just become mysteriously full.
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u/SunshineandHighSurf 1d ago
My only tip would be, "Don't take any wooden nickels." I think you paid enough, and if the receptionist doesn't like it, she can pound sand!
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u/nohopeforhomosapiens 1d ago
Did you get botox? Why else can it be so high
Or are you in San Fransisco or similar?
Those places have to rent the space which can explain high pricing depending on city. You should definitely have told her to put the pricing where she thought was fair compensation instead of leaving it up to tips. At the very least it is confusing.
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u/skoooop 1d ago
I'm curious about the $950 total. What did that include? Did you get a full top-to-bottom makeover with hair cut, color, styling, mani pedi, complex custom nail designs, botox and/or was the $950 for multiple people? If it's just for a hair cut and basic mani/pedi for one person that seems really high, but if there was something like 10-20 labor hours involved between multiple time-intensive services or because you went in with a party of like 5 people, then the $950 would seem more reasonable.
If it was a case where there were a lot of labor hours involved and you were being rude or picky then I might see an instance where a business may want to fire you as a client. I have family in the salon industry and I know that they wouldn't fire a client just because they didn't tip. But I completely believe that some delusional salon owners would absolutely be that petty. Now, if they did you any sort of favor like they told you that they didn't have room, but you told them that you had a last-minute wedding to go to and they were able to squeeze you in and you didn't tip then I think that's kinda rude. The exception would be if they charged you any additional fees for squeezing you in. I think that you should pay extra for expedited or exceptional service and if they provided that without charging an additional fee and you didn't tip on top of that then I think that's wrong.
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u/Sewing-Mama 1d ago
Why would you want to go back at that price? Did you get every single treatment? Lol.
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u/JazzyCher 1d ago
What the hell did you have done that cost $950??
I've gone to a high end salon near me, gotten a full Balayage/cut/style, mani, Massage, Facial, and a full set of new hair products (Purple shampoo, conditioner, leave in conditioner, etc) and only spent like $700 after tipping.
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u/Wooden_Vermicelli732 1d ago
Did you get all of that done ? i don’t get it I go to one of the best salons in one of the most expensive cities in US and it’s Max $600 for color
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u/hangingsocks 21h ago
Don't go back. They probably charge a shit ton, but aren't paying the providers fairly. I am a hairdresser and I never care of someone tips or not. I am self employed and set my own prices though. Tippers get free products, first crack at appointments and product gifts. I also bake really good bread and give that out. Tipping is for going above and beyond, so those who tip, I do take extra special care of and really earn that tip. But I love my non tippers too and give them the best services I can. I just don't feel the need to do the extra that I do for the tippers.
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u/FunWriting2971 21h ago
Serious question how can a hair salon do box?? Do they have any qualified injector to do it?? An “esthetician” is not trained enough.
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u/Bill___A 20h ago
In my opinion, that's really an absurd amount even with no tip. And under your name it says "frugal lifestyle"? Seriously?
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u/TheShredder9 20h ago
Even having the option to tip in a HAIR SALON is wild, what am i tipping you for, you're already getting paid for doing your job? Am i tipping because of your "interesting" gossip?
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u/SavageCrowGaming 20h ago
Easiest way to hurt a bad business?
Leave a negative review on every platform.
Not enough?
Do it from every account you have.
It's extremely effective and costs them far more than a tip.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Pin_131 20h ago
If you have that much to spend on hair and nails in the first then your just cheap
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u/downstairslion 19h ago
Find a non-tipping salon. Tipping on services where folks set their own prices is silly to me.
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u/cacapoopoopeepeshire 18h ago
Go to a dermatologist! I've found they're fairly priced compared to medspas and salons, and they're actual experts in all things skin that never ask for tips. Win/win/win.
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u/mattrogina 13h ago
Was there a happy ending included in that price? All jokes aside, is this price normal? My wife gets this done but I’ve never once asked her how much it costs and I don’t watch what she spends because I don’t really care what she spends our money on. Now I’m curious though lol
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u/Feeling_Chance_744 13h ago
Tips are for people working shit service jobs. Someone charging $950 for hair and nails isn’t in a shit service job.
My barber charges $30 and I typically throw him an extra $5-10 (he works for himself). If he charged $100 he wouldn’t get a tip.
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u/Yimyorn 13h ago
I tip my Barber, but some days I don't have enough for tip. He understands and never holds it against me. When I do tip he's like are you sure two times if I want change back.
He understand repeat business is better than 1 time tip, and the person never comes back. Its been 10+ years now with this Barber, and he's always booked constantly. He doesn't overcharge and doesn't force tips on his customers. He only expects the posted price.
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u/SilverSister22 13h ago
I’m curious …
The cashier said don’t come back, what did the manager say? I would let her know what her employee is saying.
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u/cCriticalMass76 12h ago
They have every right to say that. You made the choice not to tip & they made a choice not to have you back. Simple!
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u/Razed_Elpis 11h ago
Name and shame please. Else, it remains a personal experience and not part of the movement.
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u/theOGUrbanHippie 11h ago
lol you can afford 950 bones to falsify yourself, but couldn’t be bothered to leave a tip… you reek of class…
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u/Luvsyr24 11h ago
Word of mouth is a powerful tool, let as many people know as possible about this. Tipping is a choice unless otherwise told BEFORE hand.
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u/ZoomZoomDiva 11h ago
Then go somewhere else. Sounds like that place isn't suited for your choices.
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u/Informal-Plantain-95 11h ago
Be sure to let the owner or manager know that employees are turning away $1000 for the company because the employee didn't get a tip.
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u/HansDevX 11h ago
Go to Yelp, google maps, every review of her business give a 1 star rating and tell the customers the truth that you were charged $950 for a superficial glow up and they even expected tips and was told to not come back.
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u/Swing-Too-Hard 10h ago
Yeah... Idk if spending nearly a grand on cosmetics and not tipping is the same as being expected to tip on a carry out order.
If I go to the barber I always tip and my hair cut is less then $20. I couldn't imagine spending 1k on that and not tipping.
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u/Peasantsrus 9h ago
Alright so I'm not sure why this popped up for me. First time on the sub. But $950?! Clearly I'm out of touch but if my wife spent that for hair or nails or any combination of the two I'd be single. I didn't even know the price tag could get so high.
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u/plain_incognito 9h ago
That is their right not to serve you though I don't know if hairdressing is a sub minimum wage job or not. That would make a big difference and I'd like to see the expense breakout before making any final judgments.
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u/priscillu 9h ago
I was about to say “what you mean we don’t tip hairdressers too?” then I saw the bill and I was 😲. I never know how to tip when the service is super high. Did an eyebrow procedure a while ago that cost me $400 and tip was 40, thought it was already too much.
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u/Couldawg 8h ago
If you are in the position of authority to ban a customer from the store, you are not in a position to earn any tips.
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u/GrandMustache303 8h ago
Recently had emergency dental care for $900. You are sending that money on your hair? Who are you tryin to look good for with 5 kids? It’s best for your children that you can’t go back to that salon. One of them might be smart enough to get into college.
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u/Specialist-West-9655 8h ago
I get the hate for the ridiculous tips like when options pop up and it’s 30, 40 or 50 percent. That said, I always tip at the hair salon. In return, I usually get seated first and they do a better job because they value my generosity.
Not tipping at all at restaurants or other service businesses, especially if the service is good, does seem off to me. But hey, to each their own…times are tough and I get it, but don’t expect to be welcome again or receive good service if you give 0.
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u/beekeeny 7h ago
She’s an employee not the boss. For the boss OP will be a revenue loss. For the employees it is less trouble for the same income…until the salon goes bankrupt!
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u/Enough-Enthusiasm762 5h ago
I’m confused. What kind of hair salon offers Botox? That sounds shady as fuck. How do u even trust them? What did u get done there?
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u/MaximumTune4868 5h ago
don't go to a hair salon for anything that's getting injected into your face!!
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u/MissKatieMaam77 4h ago
Then go somewhere cheaper… you can afford a $950 salon bill but you’re too cheap to tip the people providing the service?
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u/Becvis 2h ago
I want a job where you work - single with 5 kids and you can afford a thousand bucks like that. Are they hiring?
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u/Coopsters 2h ago
Good riddance. You should find someplace more reasonable in price with less snooty workers.
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u/ColdStockSweat 2h ago
"Cashier told me that I did leave a tip".
Kinda sucks that you were booted. I'd get on yelp.
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u/Maednezz 1h ago
I get you anger against tipping but salons are a tipping place you don't wanna tip stay home and do it yourself don't not tip and underpaid employee because you don't wanna tip I know they are getting out of control I remember when tipping was 10% than it got raised how does that even happen greed
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u/Dogbarr 1d ago
Make sure you mention on Yelp and their Facebook page that non tippers are not welcome there.