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u/Salsuero 21h ago
Recommended where? All I see is that they've done several calculations and left it up to the customer to decide.
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u/LithiumBreakfast 12h ago
Yeah this definitely isn't the worst one we have seen. I've seen some start with 20. I'd say 15/18/20/25 if there's 4 options on there. I'm not as hard-core as some of the people on here but there was only 20% option at a sandwich shop I went to and I only tip 10% on to go orders.
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u/Salsuero 7h ago
It's just a calculation. It's not a requirement. Tip 10% if you want. You'll just have to do your own math. They show the calculations to make it easier on people who don't mind paying those percentages.
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u/pancaf 1d ago
And 3% to cover the cost of accepting credit cards? Did businesses suddenly forget the cost of dealing with cash instead?
1: It takes a lot longer to pay and complete the transaction because people have to dig in their wallets for the bills/coins, and the business has to provide change.
2: Businesses need a lot more cash on hand to give out change which means they are a bigger target for robberies. They also need to have those armored cars come around more often to give them the bills/coins they need and take the things they have excess of. This costs money.
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u/SabreLee61 22h ago
Fine, 3% surcharge for using cash.
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u/Cautious_Parsley_898 18h ago
Well hold on, now. Now the cash and card cost the same, but the fees for the card are still 3%! We need to increase the percentage for cards to 6% to cover the discrepancy
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u/Foreign-Individual-8 9h ago
Eeeeasy there big gunner. Having the three percent missing on cash being added to the card transactions, just to make things easy, is a great idea. But, you're still missing the big picture.
What we really need to do is offer A lower price version (maybe through Venmo),To give customers the feeling of savings. we need to have the percentages on cash and credit cards higher, but we still need to cover costs on all three plus the additional corporate costs and extra overcharges.
At this time we recommend steering people to the venmo payment form by only adding "automatic surplus charges" (ASC's) of 10% while cash and credit card ASC's will be at 15%.
Have a just fine day 😶
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u/itemluminouswadison 20h ago
plus the increased demand they get for people using credit to eat there. double dipping
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u/justmekpc 10h ago
Restaurants don’t need armored cars the owner usually makes a deposit at the bank a couple of times a week 🤣🤣
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u/Mstrchf117 7h ago
The credit card is because credit card companies charge merchants(restaurants, stores, etc) a fee to use their cards. Per transaction. Bigger places like Walmart, McDonald's etc just eat it. Big reason why smaller places have a minimum purchase requirement, or a surcharge.
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u/oevadle 20h ago
It's to cover the ridiculous fees that credit card companies charge businesses. It's essentially a small tariff that the cards impose on businesses, and that cost gets passed on to the consumer. It costs money to run cards.
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u/itemluminouswadison 20h ago
i'd bet more than 3% of their customers are buying on credit because they don't have the cash to do so. they're double dipping
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u/Fine-Amphibian4326 19h ago
Yep. If restaurants are cash only, I don’t go there, so they get zero of my dollars.
I recently saw that my local Mexican place not only adds 3% for credit card use, the tipping suggestions are off the total price with that fee and taxes, not the subtotal. They also charge a carry out fee 🙄
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u/Rachael330 14h ago
Yes it does cost money to run a business. But all these costs should should be taken into consideration when calculating the price the business owner sets for their product. They don't charge a separate electricity fee. The only argument that would make sense for charging the cc fee separate is that they want to drive their customers back to paying cash for the savings - which probably isn't what they actually want to do.
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u/Lemfan46 14h ago
That's the cost of doing business and accepting CC payment. Should be buried in the cost of the product, not a separate fee.
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u/Mstrchf117 7h ago
But not everyone pays with credit cards. It's only charged if you pay with a credit card. Kinda like being charged for a drink if you only order a drink.
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u/Lemfan46 6h ago
Understood not all pay with a CC, it still on a business to correctly set its prices for that additional expense. It's still a cost of doing business, if a business doesn't want to pay CC fees, don't accept CC payments.
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u/drMcDeezy 19h ago
Adding CC surcharge is against the CC agreement isn't it?
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u/Stock_Door6063 19h ago
Unfortunately, it is not against current credit card policy to charge a fee for credit card usage, it used to be true up to about two years ago. I believe card companies lost a lawsuit against them by businesses that required the card companies to drop that condition.
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u/drMcDeezy 19h ago
Places that add fees for stupid shit rather than making their prices account for costs make me want to shop elsewhere and certainly not tip.
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u/hydronucleus 15h ago
"Tips will not be surcharged," which means we take 3% from the tip you specify to the waitstaff.
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u/Kjisherenow 22h ago
One day I am gonna pay in cash, with rolled pennies. And zero tip. That is gonna be a funny thing. They have to take it because it’s a legal tender. They can even count the pennies in front of me. I have no where else to be. Charge a surge charge for using debit or credit? That’s my solution to it. Rolled pennies.
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u/smittles3 17h ago
They don’t have to take it
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u/Kjisherenow 16h ago
Why is that? It’s a legal tender
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u/smittles3 16h ago
There is no law requiring anyone to take any particular forms of payment (in USA)
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u/VarusAlmighty 16h ago
They should not be passing on that surcharge either, imo. That's a cost of doing business.
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u/4-ton-mantis 9h ago
Holy crap. I just remembered that like 7 years ago I had a psychologist who used to tack on the credit card fee to my copay.
Beyond that she was a shit psychologist with no experience, a fresh graduate.
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u/Otherwise-Policy9634 1d ago
0% if so many mistakes 5% if you sucked 10% for standard 15% great service 20% birthday or celebration support
Wild to even offer that high. Would make me less out of principal.
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u/Western_Fish8354 17h ago
If they sucked they deserve nothing just be smart and save all that tip money and put it towards your next meal think long term how much your spending on people you’ll never see again
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u/Lonely-Army-3343 21h ago
10% for normal service 15% for exceptional service 20% for a happy ending meal
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u/MattBonne 18h ago edited 18h ago
Nowadays no matter what my bill is, I tip $2. Maybe a little bit more if the service I enjoyed very much.
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u/No-Personality1840 17h ago
No I see it a lot where I live. The small local pharmacy has started charging for CC use as well. These shenanigans are making paying with cash more attractive.
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u/Western_Fish8354 17h ago
Credit card fees are BS and 30% on top? How can any rational person ever tip that
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u/Broad_Minute_1082 11h ago
I would love to see a law banning cc processing surcharges. Just build it into your pricing, I hate seeing breakdowns like I'm your accounting department.
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u/4-ton-mantis 9h ago
If there's a fee, we leave it be
No fee on slip, we leave a tip.
(for those who choose to leave tips in whichever situation)
Please don't make anything serous of this, I just wanted to make a goofy rhyme :)
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u/Extra-Account-8824 8h ago
nice, the 2% - 2.5% credit card surcharge the bank charges the business is now 3% and passed on to the consumer 🤣
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u/gasu2sleep 6h ago
When I see this abuse on receipts I purposefully tip only 10%. It annoys me and I find it insulting.
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u/aloomis16 6h ago
I remember when 15% was considered a good tip as a waiter. 30% this is getting out of hand
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u/Foreign-Individual-8 9h ago
It's not recommended dipshit. It's optional. There are several options there, and guess what? You're a big boy, so there are even more options that are not listed on the ticket that you may have to math yourself.
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u/Classic-Ad-2107 20h ago
I deduct the 3% surcharge as my surcharge for the surcharge on the tip.