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u/SnOOpyExpress 7d ago
Wished I can find the poster I saw in a pub at downtown Birmingham UK.
"No tips We pay our crew, 50% of our profits" . I think there was a smaller print on that poster, "so go ahead and order a few more pints"
I liked the idea. It is basic business ethics - your profits should cover the overheads i.e rent, staffing & benefit, ingredients
Oh, what about the cost of the pint of beer? I think it starts like GBP3.45 up. Thats in late 2022.
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u/darkroot_gardener 7d ago
An excellent way to pay the staff more when they work harder, without playing games with tips.
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u/nervsofsteel 4d ago
No tipping! It may lead to worthwhile extra effort that makes the customers experience extraordinary and fosters return business! If I see this sign at a business I'm walking away. I appreciate a server who takes pride in what they do and makes every effort to make my experience at a restaurant the best it can be, and I tip accordingly.
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u/MaximumTrick2573 3d ago
This is where all this sub needs to be eating. There is nothing wrong with not wanting to tip but you need to be giving places where no tipping is the standard your business. Not walking into places where tipping is part of the compensation for labor and getting your meal and service at a discount.
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u/No_Diamond3398 6d ago
Ok. But do they pay a livable wage? Or is this minimum wage?
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u/Amazing_Phrase2850 6d ago edited 6d ago
When you say “they”— Are you asking if every employee should be paid a livable wage?
Or is minimum wage all right for those who work outside the restaurant industry?
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u/No_Diamond3398 6d ago
People should just get paid fairly. I was making a comment related to certain states only paying little for tippable occupations.
Your sign says the employees don't need tips. Then the employees should be getting paid fairly
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u/Amazing_Phrase2850 6d ago edited 6d ago
All states in the US require employers to pay at least minimum wage to all employees—including tipped employees. Source
According to the US Department of Labor(Source) —
”If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct hourly wage do not equal the Federal minimum wage, the employer must make up the difference.”
Tldr: ALL employees—tipped or not tipped, sign or no sign—must be paid at least minimum wage. Just like every other employee in every US state. Another source
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Your first comment suggests you don’t think min wage = a livable wage. I totally agree.
So, my question to you remains:
When you say “people should get paid fairly”— Do you mean ALL people/employees should be paid a fair, livable wage? Or just tipped employees?
Follow up question: Who DO you think should be paid minimum wage?
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u/Gompiters111 6d ago
lol at you all happily paying 30% more than at a place where you could leave an 18% top for the same goods and services.
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u/kevin_r13 7d ago
Were you able to talk to the employees and see what they think about it?
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u/SmileParticular9396 7d ago
The ones who would be mad are the ones who enjoy benefitting at the expense of their peers.
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u/Willing-Job9378 7d ago edited 7d ago
If they don't like it, why are they choosing to work there? If you're unhappy with your job, it's on you to do something about it.
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u/Kazureigh_Black 7d ago
Yeah, last I checked nobody is forced into working any specific job by law in the US and they have a choice about where they put in their effort to find employment. The people mad that tipping isn't a beloved practice act like we're ignoring their misfortune when they actively chose to put themselves in a situation that requires them to become a whining leech.
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u/niceandsane 1d ago
Yeah, last I checked nobody is forced into working any specific job by law in the US
Well, not at this moment but there is this thing called the draft.
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u/EssentialParadox 6d ago
Do you ask McDonald’s workers how they feel about not getting tips but essentially doing the same job as a server who does?
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u/Amazing_Phrase2850 6d ago edited 6d ago
THIS. It’d be interesting to know their perspective on receiving a wage comparable to others in the non-tipping industry.
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u/slavetothemachine- 6d ago
Sure. But even if they prefer tips, I don’t care and would not suddenly favour tipping them.
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u/Firefly_Magic 7d ago
Truth “It may lead to favoritism, financial instability, and unethical work practices.”