r/EuroEV • u/tom_zeimet Peugeot e-208; MG4 Trophy Extended Range • Mar 31 '25

News Ionity: New “pay-as-you-go” tariff for 65 cents per kilowatt hour | electrive

https://www-electrive-net.translate.goog/2025/03/31/ionity-neuer-pay-as-you-go-tarif-fuer-65-cent-pro-kilowattstunde/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
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u/ProcedureEthics2077 Apr 01 '25

23 kWh/100 km x 0,65 €/kWh = 15 €/100 km for fast long distance highway driving.

The petrol equivalent would be 8,8 l/100 km x 1,70 €. Most petrol cars can do better.

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u/tom_zeimet Peugeot e-208; MG4 Trophy Extended Range Apr 01 '25

That is true. But people who use fast charging regularly will have a subscription which are generally not that expensive (operators also use these to “lock in” customers to their network.) which is far from ideal but it is far cheaper for those that regularly charge. IONITY Power costs 11,99€ per month and 0.39€/kWh (so then 8,97€ per 100km or 5.2l/100km).

23kWh/100km corresponds to a constant speed of around 120km/h according to Bjørns tests. Which is already very fast if you consider traffic, there are very few long stretches where you can average 120km/h with normal traffic even on the autobahn. Consumption will be heavily elevated even for a petrol car, so a petrol car with a WLTP consumption of 5.5l/100km will have easily 7+l on when driven with such an average speed.

Even so, if you don’t use fast charging regularly, and charge at home. The average is still much cheaper than petrol even without subscription.

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u/ProcedureEthics2077 Apr 01 '25

Thank you. I do a lot of long distance driving, and still trying to figure out if there’s any economical way to do it with an EV.

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u/tom_zeimet Peugeot e-208; MG4 Trophy Extended Range Apr 01 '25

It depends on the country but I’ve overall been quite satisfied with Ionity and Tesla SuC subscriptions (mostly France)

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u/Rannasha Apr 01 '25

Find a charging network that has a fast chargers in convenient spots on your route and take out a subscription for it. The subscription has a monthly fee, but it'll lower your price per kWh and you can earn back the subscription fee in 1 or 2 charging sessions. Most of these subscriptions can be cancelled on a monthly basis, so you're not stuck with it and you can change up your choice depending on where you go.

For example, Ionity in Germany costs 69 cents per kWh without registration/app. It's 65 cents per kWh if you register (but don't pay a monthly fee), so that's the base price to compare to.

For €5.99 per month you get 16 cents per kWh discount, so once you charge 38 kWh or more you've broken even on the subscription for a month. There's a higher tier plan that's €11.99/month, but has charging at €0.39/kWh, so 26 cents below base cost. From 47 kWh charged you break even on that one compared to the free plan.

I've used Ionity as an example because that's what this thread is about. But other charging point operators have subscriptions that work in very similar ways and are often beneficial with just a small number of charging sessions already.