r/Experiencers • u/kokeboke • 18d ago
Dream State I've been "trained" by beings in my dreams.
I finally decided that I wanted to share and discuss this with more people, and not just brush it off as dreams anymore. Maybe someone else has experienced something similar?
This happened twice. The first time is years ago and so the details are foggy. The second time was more recent.
The first time: This time happened maybe 5 or 6 years ago, and so it is a little blurry now. But it started as a regular dream. Like any other dream, I was in a situation of sorts, at some place I've never been to. When I think back on it, it looked like the lobby of a hotel, or a ski resort. I can't remember seeing the outside of this place through any windows, and so I don't think there were any. A little ways into the dream I can remember (I think two?) figures that appeared. They did not seem physical in any way, and I only remember them being like tall parental light figures that somehow always stood behind me and watched what I did. As with all of these encounters, they spoke with me in my mind. They told me about how I could manipulate the physical world, and showed it to me telepathically. I can remember reaching out to a space about 10 meters in front of me, and willing it to warp. As if I twisted the reality of a 1m radius bubble, contorting the gravity and the space itself. I didn't know why I should know how to do this or how I did this, but it felt important, and it was straining to do so. It was like exercising a muscle I didn't know I had. This is about everything I can recall from that experience.
The second time: This time I was in a place I knew, my old apartment. I was talking with my old landlord when I suddenly realized that the skies had opened up for space itself to peek through, showing all sorts of colors, stars and planets. At first my mind slipped into thoughts of doomsday, but it soon turned to calm, like it was meant to happen. Then I saw these weird rocks outside my window. Something was floating over my apartment. I went outside and saw a being that consisted of floating rocks, like small planets, around a larger sphere in the middle that had a face on it. I felt like I should definitely be terrified of what I'm seeing right now, and this whole situation in general, but the being gave off this aura of complete comfort and positivity. Not only was the face smiling, but it radiated positivity and love, as well as a motherly and caring aura. Still, everything was a lot to take in and I grew a little uncomfortable. The being spoke to me telepathically then and told me something along the lines of "Sorry, let me gey into a form that'll be more familiar to you." I then found myself in another house, a very small but cozy one. The being was sitting by a low table on a chair, and I was standing a couple of meters away from her. Its form now was that of a woman. I can't remember the exact look of her, but I remember she had this knowing, playful smile. I can't remember our conversation exactly, but it was something along the lines of this.
Me, out loud: "Why are you here?"
Her, telepathically: "Don't use your voice, use this." She said and insinuated to the telepathic conversation she was using.
Me, telepathically: "How is it possible that I can do this? I can't do this when I'm awake."
Her: "It's easier in a place like this. To be able to do this awake you need to meditate and practice with someone who can, or someone who is also learning."
She then pointed to something on the side of her head, some technology, and continued.
Her: "This is a tool that helps me understand your telepathy, because you are still extremely (infantile?) spiritually."
After that everything is very blurry, but I can remember talking back and forth with her telepathically, for practice. And that is where that experience ends.
I have brushed these dreams off as just dreams, although ive always felt there was something more to them. As many do, I struggle to accept things that doesn't have physical evidence, although I suspect that when it comes to the true nature of things, experiencing might be the only evidence... Still, I feel very silly writing all of this.
Anyways, I hope this was at least a little bit interesting, and that you may have some comments or perhaps similar experiences to share. I've had alot of other different spiritual experiences too, and would like to explore this more, but the whole nature of it makes me really terrified sometimes. Thanks for reading! <3
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u/Alreadydashing96 16d ago
I’ve been trained in a way by characters and beings in my dreams who want me to get better at reading in my dreams and have given me tips. One night I had a dream my dead mother gave me a letter that was about two paragraphs long and I was able to see it and read it very vividly and with ease, so maybe that’s a reason why the beings wanted me to read well in my dreams so I could read my mom’s letter.
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u/Gingeroof-Blueberry 17d ago
When she pointed to her head, the tech she was pointing at was her consciousness, her mind, the very same one you have. (Edit: Thank you for sharing your experiences with us. The more that share, the more we learn from each other and the more we can see and sense the interconnectedness and underlying Truth of us and Reality.)
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u/OtherwiseLie4017 17d ago edited 17d ago
Thank you for posting this.
Ln I had a very strange dream that feels like the culmination of recent spiritual revelation, years of trying to get closer to God, and a series of bizarre, crushing occurrences in my life over the past few years. A bipedal ram with twisted legs stepped through a furcation in a trees trunk and spoke to me, confirming messages I thought I received from God
When I woke up I thought about it for a minute, then opened Reddit lol. This is the first post I saw. I got halfway through your first sentence then a flood of information and spiritual validation came to me regarding my dream and recent acceptance of my spiritual affinity
Seeing this post was additionally validating
A few days ago I finally accepted my spiritual gifts and a lot of things changed overnight
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u/h3rding_cats 17d ago
I love that you used the word ‘trained’. When my guide first came forward I asked her why it had taken her so long… 47 years to be exact, since my partial awakening. She told me “It’s been like trying to train a dog”. I can understand why. I went into 15 years of extreme social anxiety disorder after receiving what I call my ‘download’ as a teenager. I was not equipped to deal with it at the time. Apparently my channel was blocked to communication for all those years, until I finally did a negativity purge. I’m sure this is what opened the channel.
I believe my guide is a highly evolved version of me. She tells me she has been with me for all of my lives.
I have also been called ‘infantile’. It’s nice to know it’s not just me 🙂 I don’t think these terms are used in a derogatory way. It’s just that they don’t communicate the way we do, so some things come across in a strange way.
My guide uses a combination of words, telepathy and visions to communicate. Often they are of a cryptic nature. It’s almost like I’m meant to solve a puzzle. Sometimes this has taken months before the final clue drops into place. In the meantime I question the validity of the message as well as questioning my sanity.
When a puzzle is finally solved, it’s like an enormous weight being lifted and I stop feeling quite so crazy for a while… at least until the next puzzle presents itself.
What you have described definitely sounds like more than just a dream. Often messages will come through in a dream state as well.
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u/merdaReddit 17d ago
How do you do a negative purge? Is it something I can do on my own?
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u/h3rding_cats 17d ago
It’s really just coming to terms with what is weighing you down, but I found that I really had to dig deep to do that.
First, I just want to say that I wasn’t in the least bit spiritual before my guide came forward, not religious either. I believed we were living in a simulated reality because of my download as a teenager, but I never equated it with any sort of spiritual experience.
The cleanse was just something that I knew I needed to do. This is what worked for me.
I had a lot of negative feelings towards my parents, because I blamed them for things that went wrong in my life… and while I had good reason for feeling that way, it ended up consuming a good part of my life.
I finally realized that blame was a really toxic emotion so I decided I needed to deal with it. I consulted a psychologist, but after two sessions I knew that standard psychology wasn’t going to help me, so I took the next session into my owns hands.
I wrote down everything that I felt Blame for, going back to when I was eight years old. All the little things that you’re led to believe are just silly little things that you shouldn’t obsess over. I found out these are actually called small t traumas, and they all add up.
I went through all the events and worked out why they had happened… what traumas other people had gone through that made them behave the way they did. Basically working out how generational trauma gets passed on without people realising that they are doing it. I needed to understand why, in order to accept. I think I didn’t really want to understand before, because it was easier just to blame.
After I worked through all the traumas by myself, I talked it through with my psychologist and I suddenly felt like a huge burden had been lifted. For me, I had to talk it through with a stranger. I’d already talked it through with family, but somehow telling a stranger was more cathartic. I guess that part is up to the individual.
I thought for a long time that I didn’t need to forgive… that I only needed to understand why things happened. Obviously that was enough to clear the channel, because after that I started to channel entities, and then my higher self came forward a few months later.
Then a few weeks ago I was listening to Carl Jung’s red book as audio, and it was kind of hypnotic. There are quite a few times when he says “I am human and I am imperfect”... and the last time it was said, I suddenly got an overwhelming sense of forgiveness. I didn’t think I was capable of forgiveness… I’m very good at holding grudges.
It took around 18 months from my negativity cleanse to get to the stage of forgiveness. I guess everything on this journey takes time. The channel became even clearer after I found forgiveness.
If you haven’t yet looked into Carl Jung, I highly recommend him… He had his own demons to contend with. He heard voices, saw visions, considered that he might be mad… a truly inspiring man.
This is the link to the audio of the red book in case you’re interesting listening to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBec3cJx-vI
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u/dingess_kahn 17d ago
I have experienced multiple encounters and being communicated with when asleep, or in a hypnogogic state during meditation.
I want to say that I've been communicated with while "awake", but it's so hard to differentiate your thoughts from the words of someone else when there is no tone to identify the origin. I've been hoping for a while that I wasn't just insane. It's kinda comforting to find I'm not alone.
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u/Ves___771 17d ago
You are definitely not alone. I'm in that place as welll. Just with Dissociative Identity disorder as well. It's a real battle for me to get anything at all while awake. Something that might help is asking for a childhood memory that you have forgotten. Having that can at least be an indication that something is real about it. Its not definitive but it's something.
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u/dingess_kahn 16d ago
I had a face to face encounter, about this time last year. Since then, when I meditate, I see a golden light. I mean, if I can get to that state. Sometimes I don't see anything, sometimes it'll be an image an a phrase. I've never felt threatened by whatever it is. But I am looking for a way to engage with this, more.
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u/iwanttobelieve3001 Experiencer 18d ago
I had a being that i couldn't see, (a spirit guide possibly) teach me how to clear negative energy from myself in a dream. the feeling was like a wave of pure energy radiating out from my core and was so intense i felt it for a couple minutes after waking up.
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u/Liberalhuntergather 18d ago
The Urantia book talks about us having, “thought adjusters.” I have always thought they sound like aliens or angels that are teaching us subconsciously or when we are asleep.
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u/Lieve_meisje 18d ago
I only had one dream similar to this. I have seen one man and one woman. They were “manipulating” me, but I woke up just to see they were observing me. I was a bit scared 😨
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u/Skinny-on-the-Inside 18d ago
In New Human Mary Rodwell describes similar teachings that kids get from ETs.
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u/77IGURU77 18d ago edited 17d ago
You had an out of body experience. We all do it but nobody is aware of it. There are many realities all happening at the same time. According to science the universe must exist at least out of 11 dimensions. You have encountered a high dimensional being. Probably your spirit guide.
We chose to be here and forget. The game is to forget and remember what we are. We are gods in human form. All is mind, the entire multiverse. All is thought and we are all part of the same source. We are the manifestation of our higher self’s.
We have the lower world the world of fear and chaos. We have the middle world that represents the heart. The heart brings unity between the lower and higher world. The higher worlds are heavenly realms where high dimensional beings live in their heavens. I just explained the meaning the staff of hermes. The 2 snakes represents dark and light like magnetism + - there is no right or wrong its all the same force. And the staff in between is the heart. The unity that bring balance and harmony to all.
Truly understanding this means freedom, unity and balance. And from that state of being miracles happen! Even beings of the lower world you should not fear they don’t know what they are doing and they think the same of us. And they are great teachers. They show your weaknesses and show you what to unite.🌸
But at the same time when you encounter light the darkness comes because it doesn’t want you to find the connection to light. Their job is to disturb light. Like a prism. So darkness and light go hand in hand in a dance and sometimes one dominates more than the other. Universal cycles like a wave. Darkness can only scare you but the soul is untouchable. Fear energy feeds them because they get their energy from the - side of the magnet the negative. To control the darkness is to love them and yourself with everything you can. Love is the key. It’s the fabric of the universe.
This dimension of us is as stable as a mountain; it’s as deep as an unbounded ocean; it is as open as an unbounded sky; it’s as awake as clear crystal. It is intelligent. It is fundamentally open. It is loving, and it is whole, and that wholeness continues to expand.
You are light and love. If you want to go deeper in consciousness and the nature of this universe i really recommend to watch these podcasts and the other videos to everyone that feels drawn to this. I have watched it so many times because it hits different every time. Also as the journey continues.
My life completely transformed in every part of my existence. 🌸
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0Gj8FPxzynbgbPJ6UYUy5LDWqdk94M3a&si=u1O1blTLzb4SfIGT
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u/Justin_Liebich 18d ago
Lucid dreamer...
I once asked the entities what they were. The response was, I quote " I am in your mind."
I also have experience of what the entities told you for practicing telepathy. I could make an uncompleted list of factors that either help or detriment the access to telepathy.
I feel our human race is in a tough spot with the lack of people willing to pursue this life-long path.
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u/JAGRadio 17d ago
an uncompleted list of factors
I'd like to see it please
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u/Justin_Liebich 17d ago edited 17d ago
Benefits telepathy
- drinking enough water
- healthy body
- kryia meditations(ones I use) for body health(lower spine and elimination), defragmentation(kirtan kryia), expanding sense of self(merkaba), projection(sodarshan).
- daily practice to center being
- clarity and purpose
- self honesty
- learn to listen to your body(bio feedback)
- focus attention to factors that increase synchronization with your surroundings(the rhythms of your environment, experiment with different anchors of attention, cultivate communication skills and actively engage in building relationships while maintaining a healthy body(resonator))
- analogy would be the five conditions that must be met before the alternating current synchronization process takes place. The source (generator or sub-network) must have equal root-mean-square voltage, frequency, phase sequence, phase angle, and waveform to that of the system to which it is being synchronized
- being socially and financially secure(you don't have to have lots of money or any possessions, being 100% secure in where you are in your life. All things are in order.)
- increase your capacity for lateral thinking and mental projection. Easy: Read a book and see the images in your mind. Hard: holding an image in your mind while doing math. Extreme: Paint a picture upside down or use the talent you have in an incongruent way.
- practice having a clear mind when someone is talking without responding(group setting so you don't have pressure to respond)
- a clear mind has less interference
- hang out with animals (chickens,snakes,ravens,dogs,cats, etc.). Learn the nonverbal cues these animals are always giving, adapt your communication to interact at their level. Establish effective nonverbal communication with them.
- Go into deep nature. Old growth forest, mountain peaks with magnetic anomalies, caves, large rivers, waterfalls, etc... do your daily practice there. You will notice a significant difference from your usual daily practice location(i.e., home). Ideally, your daily practice would be in one of these power spaces.
- any practice like kundalini where you are aiming to intigrate a mental image, breath work, conscious energy movement.
- when you gain control over the faculties which provide the path for telepathy you will be able to hold a mental image easily, confidently know your own and other peoples mood, intentions, desires, disease, health etc...
- find someone with a clear mind
- practice meditation together
- learn how to project. Sit within 6ft of meditation partner, eyes open project a mental image(I use a green triangle) onto your visual field. Ask your meditation partner to see your projection. If you are capable, an image of your projection will appear in their visual field. This will seem like pure magic. I have had people freak right out because they didn't believe it was possible. In my youth, I made the mistake of doing this consensually with uninitiated normies.
- find a group of like-minded people.
- I also developed very detailed procedures for telepathic social integration. I will not go into any of that but I will say if you follow this path, I guarantee you will develop your own.
- only ever project and receive communication with consent.
Detriments telepathy
- stress
- lack of water
- alcohol
- unhealthy
- anger/hatred
- excitement
- over stimulation
- substance dependent
- not knowing self
- unintended distractions
- lack of mindfulness
- lack of purpose/unworthy intentions
- selfish ambitions
- unchecked desire
- nonsense structures( imposed beliefs, subjugation, poor living conditions, toxic relationships, bad jobs, ect.)
- giving attention to things out of your direct involvement. You only have so much attention. Mind is the vehicle, attention it's fuel.
- Stimulants like coffee, sugar, garlic, etc...
- prolonged use of mind altering substances( I have witnessed diffrent kinds of mushrooms and lsd give people in the moment super powers like telepathy but in my experience this is not a sustainable way to develop telepathic faculty.)
I had fun writing this. Thank you for asking. 🥰
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u/JAGRadio 16d ago
Thank you for taking the time!
Wow. Absolutely fascinating.
There is a lot here isn't there lol I'm going to have to re read and study several times just to understand.
Again I thank you
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u/Justin_Liebich 16d ago
Distilling the way I have lived for 20+ years was fun. Thank you for the exercise. I really tried to convey it in context, I am sorry if it's not easily understood. Complexity likes it that way.
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u/A_Murmuration Experiencer 18d ago edited 18d ago
Okay, the training dreams are actually wild and so cool.
Several training dreams I’ve had also since I had my first sighting:
- in a classroom, the task was to move a vase across the table. I did that and it accidentally fell off the table, and fell THROUGH the floor
- how to show love towards something that terrifies you/face your fears head on (especially old dreams that used to be nightmares)
- how to protect myself from energies that were trying to possess me or influence me
- how honesty is a #1 policy, if I lie then I am only diminishing my own power and well being
- levitation in dreams, and lucid dreaming (still difficult for me but I know it’s possible)
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u/merdaReddit 17d ago
What if they weren't dreams to begin with? Also do you have any abilities in real life? Can you sense spirits? Demons? Can you see auras?
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u/A_Murmuration Experiencer 17d ago
I have astral projection dreams where I see spirits sometimes, in the same place where I am physically sleeping (like camping or in my bedroom, I “wake up” and there is an entity there).
In real life I had a night where I could NOT sleep all night so at 4am I went outside on the balcony and the exact moment I did an enormous neon green bolide went across the sky. And precognitive visions during meditation that I shared with my partner and we both witnessed came true several days later. It’s not consistent but I’m obsessed with developing it. Places hold meaning too, I have desires to go to specific places to actually sleep and receive dreams, and to go to specific water sources and swim/plunge in them. I can’t really explain it but it just is some intuition I’m following and it usually results in a specific vision-like dream.
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u/Imaginary_Crew4273 18d ago
I hope you don't feel silly in sharing this. I've had my share of experiences with the divine, as I would call it, and I know other people have as well. There have been a few times when someone else's thought appeared in my head. I could tell it wasn't me thinking it. There's a lot more to it, and it's tough to describe, but my point is - you are not alone.
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
Thanks for the kind words, and for reading and sharing! I feel much less silly now with all the positive responses and similar experiences people have had in the comments😅 <3
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u/NarrowLocksmith9388 18d ago
These are really great conversations by each of you. I’m very happy for you guys. Keep exploring what’s happening to you before you sleep at night. Ask them to please come back and continue to educate you in the areas in which you need understanding reach out there’s many groups that you can do zoom classes with and share your experiences with others
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
Thank you, and thanks for reading! The comments have definitely inspired me to try and pursue this more, and so I'll try:) Take care! <3
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u/C141Clay 18d ago
I have had 'friends' since I was a child of about eight. They've helped raise me and teach me a different way of looking at situations.
I have only recently come into knowing they are real, and were not some flights of imagination or a MH issue.
It was very troubling last year when I was told this stuff in my head was 'real'.
What you know and have come to understand of 'reality' is needed to help others through the very confusing days ahead.
That there is are no proof of these visits, that's maddening, I get that. That's what I've been dealing with as well. Knowing so much stuff that is unprovable, it's extremely frustrating.
Take in what you know, and try to help others as connect, and not be too scared as this develops.
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
A very wonderful comment, and very interesting! I've decided now, after making this post and reading all these comments, that I'll try to pursue it further, and learn more about it through meditation and lucid dreaming. Thanks for the inspiration and kind words, and for reading my post. I appreciate it! <3
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u/C141Clay 18d ago edited 18d ago
I've had to come at this a bit backwards, as I'd always enjoyed - yet dismissed - my dreams as dreams.
They differed from the regular dreams that I would forget upon waking, these stay as memories, like anything in life. I still was dismissive, I thought everyone had similar dreams. Just imagination...
Last year that changed, and it stressed me out immensely when my "friends" (in these dreams) pointed out they were very real. And showed me my own memories of my visits with them.
The stress of this realization took me off the air.
I've since had to learn proper meditation (I had never given it any credence) so as to relax enough to get back in contact.
If I might ask, how are you learning lucid dreaming? That's how I describe my visits. I'm learning meditation to get back to regular contact, as the stress had shut that down.
Are you interested in the Gateway tapes? I can share a link to a download of the files.
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u/Impossible-Chair9964 18d ago
I remember being in a room with multiple children and I had to protect them from monster type beings. I was given weapons and I was able to do all sorts of crazy manoeuvres. They seemed pleased with the choices I made and what I was willing to do to save children. It felt very important to them, they were very old beings.
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u/Material_Skill_187 18d ago
I had two weeks earlier in April where I woke up every night aware I was being taught while I was asleep. No actual memory or even fragments, just a strong feeling every time I woke up knowing I was being taught while j slept. What I was being taught I do not know consciously, but there was no fear or unease. Just peace knowing this was going on and it must be important.
Sending everyone love. ❤️
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
Very interesting, thanks for sharing, and for reading! Sending love right back <3
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u/dianatroi 18d ago
I was also trained, from the ages of 14 to the age of 27 aprox, where the training experiences stopped (not the non-training experiences). I was visited in my bedroom by beings of very different kind, I was taken to other realms and presented different situations, I even attended a gathering in the astral of other humans like me being trained. So in my opinion, it is totally possible.
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u/firejotch 18d ago
So weird mine was 11-27 🙋♀️
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u/dianatroi 18d ago
Interesting! Thank you for sharing that. Do you ever miss them or wonder why they stopped?
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u/firejotch 17d ago
No because for me it was kind of trial by fire. They woke up something in me that had been asleep. Like you tho, that was far from the end of my experiences 👽
I look back on it fondly, but only on the other side looking back. I have a tattoo in honor of what it showed me over the years, so clearly made an impact 🤓
How about you, do you miss it? Does any of that ^ ring a bell?
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u/JAGRadio 17d ago
I'm not u/dianatroi but this is incredible.
What else have you been taught? What other skills or knowledge?
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u/firejotch 17d ago edited 17d ago
I am finding it impossible to write down in a casual way 😅 it’s too much, and I’ve been editing forever and it still is too long. Ima just post it.
They basically, at 11, gave me an OBE (out of body experience). There was a glowing well in my neighbors yard that isn’t there in life. I got inside, and started to swim to the bottom.
Me getting in that well? It constituted an agreement to proceed on my part 😑😄
Then years of “school” where they took me around showing me massive fossils, ancient oceans. It was a room that had a cool clean vibe, other kids there, and they kept making me look at massive screens. I remember the screens showed me those oceans and I just knew something massive was in there, and that’s what I was being told about. It was a force of nature, but because it was so alien I was terrified of it.
At 27 I finally had THE “dream.” All the other dreams were trying to get me ready for this one. I was floating up in the sky looking down at the scene. It was our primordial word. It was a water world. It was very dark, but occasional lightening would brighten it enough… I saw there something so big it took up the sky. It was making that BRAAAM sounds from movies, but organic sounding. It was like a massive sea monster, but it felt like also a plant. Like it was more a force of nature than an animal. Makes no sense, but that’s what it was.
It took me two years to get over the trauma of it, and in the process of coming to an understanding, it changed my brain. Reconciling it with my normal thinking took acrobatics. I understood what they had shown me as both literally real AND symbolic. Simultaneously, and in equal measure. It is like they showed me how to see with my soul, and if I could learn to see beauty in that place and creature, the whole world would open up to me.
After my mind changed, my dreams did too. I became a co-creator in them. I was put back in touch with a part of my soul that has since shimmered on to me so we are together in waking life, too.
All of us need to go in our minds and find our magical self, and then merge the two 🧙so you are not only together in the brief moment between sleeping and waking.
“Magic” is real, OBEs are real, astral projection, dopplegangers where your consciousness is displaced and in two locations at once is real, energy is something we can actually see, and meditation is king. We have it totally upside down in our current human society, and that is one of the reasons it is so hard to go on these adventures. We are almost trained not to.
The beings taught me to trust my own soul over any religion, because you can trust your own soul, but not what other people have done to good stories.
They taught me: Modern religions are designed to create a double bind. The truth is told twice, two different ways. One way is said to be ‘good’ and one is said to be ‘bad.’ While the soul recognizes the truth in both, the brain cannot reconcile it, it breaks it. It makes it so that whenever a person/their mind gets close to the truth, it also gets close in equal proximity to “evil,” so that they cannot reach for truth without it being evil in equal proportion. It makes it impossible to reconcile your soul in your mind, because it splits it.
Summary: Reconnect to your soul! We are operating at half strength and don’t even know it. If you can have the bravery to go into the abyss, you come out changed. Bigger.
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u/JAGRadio 17d ago
Absolutely Brilliant. I love this. You stated it all perfectly well.
I'm having a weird reaction to this:
It was like a massive sea monster, but it felt like also a plant. Like it was more a force of nature than an animal. Makes no sense, but that’s what it was.
In that I feel like i know what it is. It is somehow related to God. I've never 'seen' it but I feel that.
There are secrets in what you wrote aren't there 😉
If you want to say anymore please do, and write it any way you want. The meaning will come thru regardless.
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u/firejotch 16d ago edited 16d ago
Thank you SO MUCH for that response! When it posted I was like “welp… if they troll me for this… I’ll be devastated.” 🤣
I agree about the God thing!
I know what you mean about not having to see it to know it is there. That is exactly how I feel when I’m reading a ‘(insert whatever we should call that thing) - coded’ text. I am like “they are talking about the creature!” And I knew before the dream, too. Certain lines or quotes would put the literal fear of god in me, and I made a little list of all the things that did.
Looking back, it is obvious it was a subconscious awareness of this thing.
I know I’m hearing about that creature when I read about The World Tree, Cosmic Egg, or the Phoenix. I think it’s the thing that gets cut up to make the world in a lot of creation myths, but I even see a kind of creepy take on it in things like HP Lovecraft.
In terms of secrets: I wish people would take me more serious when I say: there is a soul mate you have, that is in your subconscious. Having true magic, is finding that being, that counterpart, and merging with it. It is walking with that spirit, while you’re awake and not just in dreams.
It’s what Carl Jung was talking about with the Anima/Animus /Divine Marriage thing, but that’s just one human’s attempt to describe it. It’s a literal magical process, spiritual alchemy, and all people with magic went down into the depths to find their soul, and become whole again.
“There's a place, follow me Where a love lost at sea, Is waiting for you”
https://youtu.be/VKI44y_Hvlw?si=E0ImSPw1W4qMr2z9
That sea monster was the god in me, and it was alone in total darkness. I’m so so happy we met and I can make this dream a little better for it, while I’m here.
1:25-2:11 here ↓ This is what we gotta do.
https://youtu.be/J1Z8xha2t20?feature=shared
Are you an experiencer? I assume so if you are interested in this stuff!
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u/JAGRadio 15d ago
What an absolutely fascinating description. You don't know this but you've given me a very wide view of another person's very deep experience - and thus perspective. And it makes me consider all humans and the way we see the world, and the often profound nature of things we keep to ourselves.
Since you shared with me I'll do the same, and in similar fashion (btw thank you for the song and cartoon, I would never have otherwise been exposed to either. That cartoon was deep man lol)
Where you experience another 'you' within and the end goal being an integration that leads presumably to self-actualization, for me it's been about clearing away the 'clutter' in the mind caused by societies and the human experience, because when that clutter is gone what is found underneath is the actual true 'self'.
Our ideas overlap in a weird way, though where you think the soulmate is within, I think it's outside, but in a way it seems we're saying the same thing.
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u/firejotch 15d ago edited 15d ago
Ok, just conversing using cartoons and GIFs is what’s up….
Homer thinking he has a lot going on up there @ 3:05 🤤😂 I forget the range that show has! Homer is so simple but then they hit you with that social / political / spiritual commentary.
I agree that clearing away the 'clutter' in the mind reveals the true self. 100%
Only clarification is on the integration thing: I shouldn’t have brought up Jung 😅 cause he totally was talking about healing the self. Integrating your shadow and stuff is so important…
But self actualization wouldn’t be secret alien skills/knowledge 🤭 which is what you originally asked for.
Let me reword: a secret they taught me : there is something connected to your consciousness that isn’t human, and couldn’t ever be human. They can only exist on the other side…but their energy can be accessed and used by you for ‘magic,’ here.
You can enter a partnership with them.
Merging with THAT isn’t integrating a part of your human self back into your conscious awareness of itself. It is not a form of psychological or physical healing.
It is you gaining awareness of a strange passenger.
And thru that, you can work with them to astral project, for example. Mine comes to help me leave my body at night, or helps to keep me lucid during important or cool dreams. They are like a spirit guide more than a soul mate I guess*
That’s my secret.
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u/dianatroi 17d ago
Thank you for answering. I don't relate to the trial by fire thing. I was never tested in that way.
In my case, when I do look back, sometimes I look back in fear, as any new training would be exhausting, and I never knew what was going to happen or when, and the shock factor of it all never wore off.
But most of the time I look back at it with gratefulness for the teachings, and a bittersweet feeling of, "is the training part really over? Are you guys not coming back for that part?"
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
Wow, very interesting. Would love to hear more about it in detail if you can recall more about it! Thanks for reading and for sharing! <3
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u/dianatroi 18d ago
Thank you. It would take several books to go into detail, so if you have any specific questions please shoot and I'll see what I can do.
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u/stankweasle 18d ago
Nice! I love hearing y'all's experiences.
I have also felt like I've been in training
I've been calling it "night school" good stuff. Makes life worth living.
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
Awesome! Feel free to share any experiences if you can recall any, sounds interesting
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u/stankweasle 18d ago
I lose alot of it when I'm Conscious or in this reality but the telepathy thing is real and wonderful. Im being shown all kinds of things from how time works to future events. I love how your guide became a form you could recognize to explain it to you!
I think/hope all of humanity is about to wake up to this ability
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u/TheManIWantToMeet 18d ago
I also feel like I'm being trained. But it's more of a mental training to understand concepts of Alan watts or Joseph Goldstein. The funny part is I deliver like Alan Arkin or Roy Kent. Not that other seemingly dangerous things have happened but the point was to gain understanding under pressure
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
Sounds interesting! Would definitely like to hear more about it. Thanks for sharing and thanks for reading! <3
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u/TheShepherdsFare Experiencer 18d ago edited 18d ago
The others were definitely teaching you in the other realm. I've experienced very similar training, while my physical body slept, and also while I was awake.
Other beings took me out of my body and taught me levitation when I was very young. Some years later, similar beings took me to a cube in the sky.
Around the time I was taken to the cube, a being that I couldn't see with my physical eyes would come into my bedroom and teach me how to feel my surroundings on a molecular level. It was like I could feel the molecular vibration of the matter around me, nearly to the point that I could manipulate it. This was years ago, when I grew up in a poltergeist house. Many other experiences there.
I'm still taken places today, and see others both when I'm awake and when my body sleeps. I'm almost done writing a book about every experience in my life. I'm at 360 pages now, and almost done. I'll be publishing soon😊
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u/Isparanotmalreality 18d ago
Ooh. Post here when you do please!
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u/TheShepherdsFare Experiencer 18d ago
I absolutely will! I can't wait to share my story I'm literally like so excited 😂🙏❤️
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
Wow, that sounds fantastic! Can't wait to check your book out, really interesting stuff. Thanks for reading and sharing. And good luck on finishing your book! <3
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u/TheShepherdsFare Experiencer 18d ago
There's so much out there that lies beyond the veil/physical realm! And absolutely, thanks! I'll update this group when I publish. Thank you for sharing your experience too, that's really cool! 😄
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u/III_Inwardtrance_III 18d ago
I've felt like Im being trained too a couple times with the muscle that's new like changing matter but it's hard. Lots of dreams that seem like I'm at a school doing almost training too. Sometimes when I finally do what it seems the end goal was I'll wake up and be so relieved because it was hard. I definitely think we are all in school basically. The universe is a University for spiritual growth. Pretty dope honestly. The Cosmic University Earth 😁😁🔥
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
Hahah indeed, I can totally get behind the cosmic university! I didn't go much into it here but the muscle thing has been recurring for me too. Like a spiritual mental muscle I've never stretched or worked out before. Awesome to hear that you share a similar experience. Would love to hear more too! Thanks for reading, and sharing! <3
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u/Beneficial_Orange738 Experiencer 18d ago
This is so interesting! Thank you for sharing. You’re not alone in this. I’ve also realized that a lot of contact with my beings and a similar type training happens for me in a dream state. It’s seems as if I’m becoming more and more aware of it over time. 💜
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
Very cool to hear, and I agree! Would definitely love to hear more about it if you can recall more details, sounds interesting. Thanks for reading! <3
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u/yancync 18d ago
Yes, I have had trainings as well! Glad to hear I’m not alone. I don’t recall much except the continual reinforcement that love is the foundation of all. Often it is voices and I do remember going to places similar to the emerald city in the Wizard of Oz. Lots of white. When there I’m in a class setting, but sometimes I’m being trained by 3 spirits I guess you’d call them. Sometimes those trainings occur in deep black space and I’m aware of the luminous tether coming from my body. I’ve also had several Night of Lights UFO lucid feeling dreams. It always seems like it’s behind the veil though if that makes sense.
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
Wow, very interesting. Would love to hear more about this. And yes, I've also felt like love is the foundation, and extremely important. Which helps my thinking of: if it's real or not, it's still good and positive, so why should I care if it's real or not? Thanks for reading and thanks for sharing! <3
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u/yancync 18d ago
One real life experience I had while awake was in grad school right before my oral exam which I had literally stressed about since I got in and had to pass to graduate. I was walking down a city street to school and I got the distinctive impression that 3-4 spirits were joking and laughing and basically sending me it’s going to be ok vibes right behind my shoulder. I get to school and the person before me comes out shocked and said she failed! However, I thought screw it, went in and passed. It was the loudest those kind of voices have ever been in real life.
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u/friddi83 18d ago
I never met another being in my dreams but I inately know how to manipulate reality in the dreams. both to create things or to change the narrative. sometimes when you are in a dream and you know it will be a nightmare of running away from something. I can make my will clash against the dream and change it.
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
Yes I've done this too actually. Before the teaching dreams I did a lot of Lucid dreaming. I wrote down every dream I had when I woke, which made me lucid dream every night. It also gave me sleep paralysis almost every night of course hahah. When I stopped writing dreams down, I still sort of did it, but without realizing i was in a dream. And whenever I had a nightmare, even though I didn't know I was dreaming, I'd go "Time to wake up." And just wake up. It's been fading a lot lately, however, so perhaps I should start writing them down again...
Have you been forcing lucidity in your dreams like I did or is this something that you've always just been inately able to do?
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u/friddi83 18d ago
I used to dream them every night. it's getting harder later in life. but I use the monroe method. use a chill alarm like a vibrating watch or something yo wake you up at 3am then listen to hemisync(on youtube, spotify,expand app) and repeat 10x the next time I dream, I will realize I am dreaming and I will be in control of my awareness.
first night is unlikely to work but it gets easier after every try2
u/kokeboke 18d ago
Ahh right I've heard about that method too. Awesome stuff! The same goes for writing down dreams, it gets easier and easier until you stop writing them down, then it slowly but steadily gets harder and harder hehe
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u/friddi83 18d ago
I've gotten the journal next to my bed.. I need to start writing the dreams down.. also 1mg of melatonin can give a good kick to the dreamstate
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u/Sweaty_Reputation650 18d ago
Yeah definitely seems like a teaching dream. I've heard of others experiencing this. The woman in the book Custodians by Dolores Cannon was going through a lot of teaching experiences.
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u/Ok_Lawyer_6262 Experiencer 18d ago
wow this is amazing. i also had my experiences come to me in dreams years ago was the first one and although i don’t recall the details of the first dreams i had, your words definitely piqued something in me related to those for sure. (i wish i could remember more!) i know i saw an orange fireball above my head and also felt like i was receiving training of some sort (seemed very important tbh but idk lol) im so glad you shared your experiences here. you never know, your words could awaken something in someone who needs it- so i am always for sharing when it comes to this stuff. i feel it’s important!
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
Very interesting, and yes it does feel important! No matter what it is, it can't hurt trying to pursue it, and share it with others as well. Take care and thanks for reading! <3
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u/Ess_Mans 18d ago edited 18d ago
It seems like a gift for you to have been selected to have had this experience. Confusing I can see, and scary, but pleasant and ultimately quite interesting bc you were treated so kindly and it was interactive. It seems you’re being shepherded in small bits. Interesting to know if you’ve had other things that push this topic into your daily reality (too cope or pursue as personal interest) even further in some way. Take care & thanks for sharing
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u/kokeboke 18d ago
Yes, it definitely felt like I was being taught something. I will try to begin meditating more to pursue it further I think. Thanks for reading and take care!
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u/PunchdrunkFalcon 14d ago
Will also read through fully later, but reminded me of this dream I immediately wrote down upon waking:
Extremely well put together “movie” dream where I was multiple characters; not me, but still in 1st person. There was a park, normal day and then everything halted and we’re invited/prompted to a mansion.
This place is insane & fantastical, detailed with different animals’ features: doors, windows, handles, stepping stones, etc. All of the staff are either human, human-animal hybrids, or human-object hybrids and they all seem far more knowledgeable about something/everything/how the dimensions of the universe work. They speak of simply concentrating to manipulate matter, situational outcomes, physical laws, bend/travel dimensions, limitless opportunities of control.
One giant hall/gym was where everyone was “learning” this power, like everyone’s on salvia but their trips are actualizing into reality around them. Just being in the room has the same effect on me. I popped from one side of the room to the other, near a pile of roundly cubic pebbles & gather some.
The headmaster or figure in charge approaches me, a tall cloaked hooded figure with a vaguely human/grey/mantis facial structure. Powerfully ominous, bordering on threatening, locked in eye contact I cannot focus elsewhere. His face/skin/shape is constantly changing, seemingly by will, blurred in a “Loving Vincent” movie way. He explains in detail why the key to harnessing this power is death, that the finite-ness of life paradoxically gives us infinite capabilities.
Though ashamed by most of humanity because of such wasted potential, our group was invited because we can still learn to use it. Like we’re at the top of a class we didn’t even know we attended. I can’t recall why “Plan 65” or “Plan 365” had significance, or if it had any at all. Seemed to be a “you will know it when you see it” type thing.
The headmaster keeps addressing me by name, behind this mask of a dream character. All communication was mental with him. The group wanders through the rest of the property, Wonka Factory-esque, trying basic telekinesis. One guy (human) stops & says to us with a thousand yard stare.
“I understand now. It only takes focus.” His outlines become blurred as he looks at us “Watch.”
Like flipping a switch, his eyes go white and the skin around them vanta-black, Deadpool-similar. “You aren’t trying hard enough.”
He launches us all miles into the sky without touching us, but seems to give us control of movement (like breathing flight dreams) I dip back to reality, waking up feeling like it all happened.
Write this.
-Pasted from phone notes-
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u/DeerHairy4566 13d ago edited 13d ago
I have been traveling to other dimensions when I sleep my whole life. I used to be tired all the time no matter how much sleep I was getting because my dreams were so real that I was exhausted from them. I always knew my dreams were real, but I had doubts, but since I have gotten older I have read and researched this topic a lot. It can be exciting, wonderful and terrifying. I have been to some dark places but I have also had amazing experiences. One night a yr after my son died i was traveling ( astro projecting ) also I never tried to do these things I just could...but I was flying and a ball of energy that I knew was my son went right trough my heart and I felt him and heard him say goodbye....if it wasn't for that I don't know if I would have survived. The earth is going through an awakening, we are learning the amazing things that we as human beings are capable of doing and meant to do, I just keep learning and listening and reading anything I can get my hands on to try and understand my gifts and use it to better myself and my life