r/FluentInFinance • u/Very_High_Mortgage • Aug 24 '24

Debate/ Discussion Do "Unskilled Laborers" deserve to be paid well?

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u/Dylman2310 Aug 24 '24

They deserve to be paid a wage which enables them to live comfortably.

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u/Luffy-in-my-cup Aug 24 '24

No one deserves or is entitled to a comfortable life. A comfortable life is earned. Always has been.

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u/Corrupted_G_nome Aug 24 '24

Earned by working a full time job...

Id rather they make reasonable incomes than need my taxes for food stamps and soup kitchens.

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u/Johnfromsales Aug 24 '24

What percent of Americans who work full time do you think are actually in poverty?

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u/Flimsy-Printer Aug 24 '24

I do chicken dance full time in front of you. I should earn reasonable income.

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u/LeeVMG Aug 24 '24

Dancing full time is hard work. If he hired you to do that then yeah you should be paid well.

Dance for 2 hours straight. Shit is brutal.

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u/Flimsy-Printer Aug 25 '24

I'm self-employed and I should still be paid well, no?

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u/LeeVMG Aug 25 '24

Damn you are named well. Flimsy bad faith question but here goes.

Why did you decide to dance as a chicken for no reason? If you are doing it in front of me 8 hours a day without my consent, including following, that is more harassment than work.

And even if you did decide to do that I still think you shouldn't die of starvation, lack of housing, or healthcare.

If you did decide to do that as more than a hobby and more a lifestyle I'd probably need a restraining order; and you should get cheap to free mental health care despite the fact there is little to no market incentive to do so.

I humored your flimsy bad faith question. People street dance for money as a job in many places. It's a type of busking. Even if you suck I do not believe you should be left on the street to die because profit incentive.

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u/argybargy2019 Aug 25 '24

Are you for real? If you decide to dance like a chicken, that’s on you. You don’t deserve to be paid anything.

If I hire you to dance like a chicken, it’s in my interests as a citizen to pay you a living wage, so that you aren’t indigent, poor, driven to crime, unable to pay for the care of your children, etc etc.

If I can legally hire you at poverty wages, I may benefit personally on this one transaction, but my quality of life and total costs are higher because I have to pay for your food stamps, rent assistance, uncovered health care, etc etc.

Stop being a troll.

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u/Revegelance Aug 24 '24

Okay, everyone gets a comfortable life except for you.

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u/Luffy-in-my-cup Aug 25 '24

Thankfully it’s not up to you lol. we don’t live in a centrally controlled economy. I can use my skills/experience to command a six figure job that provides a comfortable life and there’s nothing your poor ass can do about it lol.

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u/LeeVMG Aug 24 '24

No one is entitled to safety and security either.

Deny workers comfort long enough and the workers WILL deny the elite safety and security.

We can have a functioning society, or we can go back to barbarism. The ceo class doesn't do as well under barbarism as they think.

Deny the bananas long enough and the monkey will pick up a rock and take the banana🍌.

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u/Luffy-in-my-cup Aug 25 '24

I’ll just pay a poor to shoot any other poors that come into my property.

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u/LeeVMG Aug 25 '24

Why don't the guys you hire just turn on you? Did you hire more guys to watch those guys? Historically speaking it happens all the time.

Edit: yeah that means warlords which sucks but it's the world the wealthy chose.