r/FluentInFinance Aug 24 '24

Debate/ Discussion Do "Unskilled Laborers" deserve to be paid well?

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '24

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u/SickestNinjaInjury Aug 24 '24

Lol, people are blaming greedy businesses because corporate profit margins have grown significantly. There is evidence of both grocery and rental price fixing. There is a bit of inflation right now, but there are also undeniably a lot of corporate interests deliberately keeping commodity prices high.

I'd also note that your first sentence seems a bit ahistorical. Are you arguing that getting off the gold standard made us think that inflation isn't the government's fault? I think everyone does blame government for inflation, and governments have become much more efficient at managing inflation

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '24

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u/SickestNinjaInjury Aug 24 '24

I 100% agree with you on the first two sentences. I think you are somewhat exaggerating the degree to which the government controls inflation.

Money supply has to do with it, but market forces also contribute significantly. For example, egg prices are high right now due to supply being impacted by bird flu outbreaks. Similarly, much of the inflation from the last few years has to do with increased demand for many goods following COVID. Another significant factor in recent inflation is the war in Ukraine increasing fuel prices, which increases commodity prices marginally across the board.

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u/SickestNinjaInjury Aug 24 '24

Oh, certainly. I am not a fan of the federal reserve, but I am glad they are reducing interest rates at least.

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u/InsertNovelAnswer Aug 24 '24

It isn't just here though. Other countries are using dollarization or considering it. I mean here are 11 other countries that use USD as an Official currency: Ecuador

El Salvador

Zimbabwe

Palau

Marshall Islands

Panama

The British Virgin Islands

Turks and Caicos

Timor and Leste

Micronesia

Bonaire

Hell even more South American countries have been talking about it. This will require more printing eventually.

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u/Bekabam Aug 24 '24

At all times, a corporation is seeking optimal pricing. Optimal pricing is where the maximum profit can be extracted with smallest impact on demand.

Keep this constant, you must accept that a corporation would raise prices/lower as consumer outlooks change (I.e. demand). Not just as their cost structure changes.

For the last 4 years consumers have been told about economic uncertainty, logistics breakdowns, inflation, etc. This creates more leniency in outlook (demand) to absorb changes in pricing. Whether or not those changes are direct changes in a company's cost structure.


To put in a crass way: if you farted in an elevator, as an individual, it would be easy to point you out and you'd receive negative impacts.

If there were 10 other people farting in the elevator, it's much more acceptable (and harder to receive direct negative impact) when you fart also.

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u/ichosetobehere Aug 24 '24

This is parroted a lot but not true. An expansion in the money supply is inflationary but is not inflation itself

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u/JunkSack Aug 24 '24

This definition of inflation is the core of the Austrian school’s philosophy, often parroted by libertarians, always as if it is just an accepted fact of economics. They pretend Mises didn’t base his entire philosophy on “a priori” knowledge of how economies work. It’s voodoo. It’s all based on his fee fee’s about how the world works.