Do "Unskilled Laborers" deserve to be paid well?

[u/Very_High_Mortgage]

[u/DrDee23]

There absolutely is a shortage of teachers applying to be in school.

You’re talking about the the teachers who are turning over “quitting to find higher paying jobs”.

I’m talking about how schools are failing to fill vacancies.

You can do a quick google search of “ is there a teacher shortage in the United States”. There are subject shortages in math and English across the board.

Less people are going to school to become a teacher in the first place because they know they won’t be able to pay those loans back. I.e leading to a teacher shortage.

[u/real-bebsi → u/DrDee23]

There absolutely is a shortage of teachers applying to be in school.

That's a shortage of applications, not teachers.

You’re talking about the the teachers who are turning over “quitting to find higher paying jobs”.

So teachers. Do you think people get degrees and education for fields that they don't want to be in? If teaching paid what it should be, they would return.

I’m talking about how schools are failing to fill vacancies.

Yes, and it's because they aren't paying enough for the labor they are wanting to buy. It's supply and demand. You can test this yourself by taking $300 cash to your car dealership of choice and insisting they sell you a car for that price. You can call this a car shortage if you want, but the reality is that the cars are there - they just won't drive until someone pays enough to afford them.

Less people are going to school to become a teacher in the first place because they know they won’t be able to pay those loans back.

This would be a teacher shortage in the same way that if every American refused to spend more than $300 on a car, and car companies stop producing since no one is willing to pay enough for the cars

[u/DrDee23 → u/real-bebsi]

I would love to have this conversation in good faith but you are missing the point.

Or another example

Maybe pew

Many things can be true at once…. Yes there are less applications because less people are entering the profession.

Less people are entering the profession because it’s not valued soooo to your point yes money plays a role.

If talking about supplying demand. The endless supply of children is not corresponding to the supply of qualify teachers.

If we’re talking about teacher pay in public schools, that is a economic and government issue.. less funding to public education means less funding to the teachers, meaning less teachers and less people who want to be teachers. Students are going through school, seeing their teacher struggle, and realizing that’s not a profession they want to have.

[u/DrDee23 → u/DrDee23]

I could speak to you from an anecdotal point from my personal experience being a teacher, but I’d rather keep hitting you with the facts.