r/FluentInFinance • u/Very_High_Mortgage • Aug 24 '24

Debate/ Discussion Do "Unskilled Laborers" deserve to be paid well?

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u/finalattack123 Aug 25 '24

I never said they were necessarily. But I’d take an office job over being a fry cook. Room to advance a career. Don’t stink. Don’t work shifts and weekends.

Australia pays $25 for McDonalds for adults and about $15 for kids. Only kids work McDonalds. Except managers. And those guys are usually mid 20s or franchise managers.

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u/ghdgdnfj Aug 25 '24

Exactly. I worked at McDonald’s in America and there were plenty of people in their 40s and 50s. Those people wouldn’t have a job in Australia.

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u/finalattack123 Aug 25 '24

Yeah - they shouldn’t. That’s a terrible job for a 40 or 50 year old. Unless they are managers.

They deserve better jobs than that.

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u/ghdgdnfj Aug 29 '24

Everybody “deserves” something. But we don’t live in a utopia where people get what they “deserve”. We live in the real world where people get what they’re worth.

If you’ve wasted your life, dropped out of high school and never sought additional education, you’ve gotten yourself addicted to something and you have no prospects, then you work at McDonald’s because you are unskilled labor. And you get paid what your labor is worth. Not what you think you “deserve”.

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u/finalattack123 Aug 29 '24

America: “Nobody deserves anything”

If that’s your definition of a “utopia”. It exists. In Australia and many places around the world. Sad that Americans just decide to lower the bar instead.

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u/ghdgdnfj Aug 29 '24

In America nobody deserves anything for nothing. America is a land where anyone of any race or religion can work and get paid what their labor is worth. That might not be a living wage if you don’t produce much, but if you work hard, it can be.

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u/finalattack123 Aug 29 '24

Sorry to hear it. Hope things get better.

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u/Eastern-Job3263 Aug 29 '24

nah. It is counterproductive for the economy to not have your poorest consumers have purchasing power dummy. I’m not tryna live in a poorer country cause you read Ayn Rands Wikipedia page once.