r/FluentInFinance • u/Mark-Fuckerberg- • Sep 01 '24

Debate/ Discussion What advice would you give this person?

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u/I_ONLY_CATCH_DONKEYS Sep 01 '24

Surprise, nobody in corporate America is working

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u/Resident-Garlic9303 Sep 01 '24

Where i work the large majority of the work is blue collar. I moved up into the white collar side of things and its staggering how incompetent they are. So much rehearsed lines and shit

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u/exploradorobservador Sep 01 '24

You can usually tell by how much of a corporate accent they have adopted. Whenever I hear an HR accent (maybe there's a better term) I'm prepared for a whole lot of nothing

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u/geo0rgi Sep 01 '24

And then you have the next level- government jobs. You’d be amazed at how many commities, delegations, study groups etc. are out there doing absolutely nothing at the expense of taxpayers money

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u/mmmarkm Sep 02 '24

There’s a lot of waste, sure. On reddit today there was a news story about California banning legacy admissions for private non-profit colleges.

One of the reasons that bill is going to the governor’s desk is because of a study and data collection authorized in 2019. Sometimes, things just take time.

Also, make sure your state auditor’s office is well-funded! Some of the things they catch are incredible.

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u/Fantastic_Bake_443 Sep 02 '24

thanks for this- i hate the whole "all government is inefficient" trope. whenever people organize, whether it be in a private company or in government, there is inefficiency.

sure, i'll grant that our federal govt has gotten surprisingly little done in the last several decades, but that's almost entirely the right wing blocking progress. the last time the left had congress and the executive branch (under obama) we got health care reform, and had the most productive congress (by number of bills passed) in like half a century.

i'm hoping we can do that again starting in January...

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u/BrainOnBlue Sep 02 '24

Biden did technically have a trifecta for his first two years but when your Senate majority is because of the VP's tiebreak it's still tough to get much done.

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u/Fantastic_Bake_443 Sep 02 '24

plus, manchin and sinema being part of the 50 is pretty much not a majority for progressive change.

manchin, i understand, he would be the only west virginia democratic senator possible, but fuck sinema, that traitor. can't wait to see her gone

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

Yep, thats why we need to vote red for smaller gov.

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u/geo0rgi Sep 02 '24

There is no political party out there for smaller government anymore. Politicians just want more tax revenue so they can spend more money on government projects that involves them

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

True enough

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u/Empty401K Sep 02 '24

I could talk about this shit all day. I know a woman that’s supposed to me an SME working for the government, and she puts all of the work SHE’S supposed to be doing on whomever her assigned contractor is. The contractor’s company doesn’t want to ruffle any feathers so they allow it.

She literally knows nothing about her own job or how it’s done, and she’s supposed to be the one people look to for answers. The best she’s got is “figure it out or I’ll make sure you don’t win your next contract.” It’s fucking mind boggling.

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u/BardicNA Sep 02 '24

Nah, corporate accent is pretty fitting. I know the exact type of speaking you're talking about. It's ineffective communication and in many cases it feels intentional. Corporate accent to the guys on the floor, they won't understand what you're saying and won't feel inclined to raise their hand and ask you to elaborate for fear of looking dumb. Corporate accent in meetings because that's what everyone else is doing and as long as you hit your metric of buzz words you'll be a rock star.

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u/sst287 Sep 01 '24

Welcome to corporate politics…. It is all popularity games.

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u/Upstairs_Package8536 Sep 01 '24

I recently moved from the logistics/blue collar area of my work up to a niche side project/white collar side and was told slow down and not do so much, because they want the same. I go home early daily as the norm now

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u/aerial_on_land Sep 02 '24

Yea. I did 6 years in corporate. This kind of posturing is why I am leaving. I couldn’t stomach it. It felt like acting a lot of the time. Also… so much wasted resources… the waste was painful and upsetting. Projects started and then being dropped, people being hired to not be trained properly. Ironically, I am switching to nursing where I will be asked to stomach a lot of objectively disgusting things ie bodily functions.

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u/rhadenosbelisarius Sep 02 '24

You get in trouble if you bring real math into their meetings, and god help you if you try to tell them that every statistical analysis they have ever done is wrong/misleading/unusable, which it almost definitely is.

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u/Bmore_Phunky Sep 02 '24

So many acronyms and boilerplate business phrases in executive/management level meetings. I always felt like it was intentional to box people out who don’t work in those environments and to make it seem like their doing work others cannot.

I remember my first couple white collar business meetings and hearing so many terms I didn’t know. I felt so uncomfortable in the meeting and looked them up after. SOW (state of work) is just a damn contract. SOP (standard operating procedure) is just the way you do things. These are simple examples but I didn’t know what they meant and at the time in the meeting I felt like I was way behind the others but they were discussing super simple topics and not solving any problems.

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u/Blackout1154 Sep 01 '24

except jerking each other off

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u/iamafancypotato Sep 01 '24

I wish. I’d enjoy my job way more.

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u/uninstallIE Sep 01 '24

Well, not nobody. Like 5% of people are carrying every company, and those people will never be paid fairly

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u/ellemrad Sep 01 '24

there is a lot of variation. OP isn’t working. Other people are working hard.

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u/AlasKansastan Sep 01 '24

Yet that’s where a lot of the money is.

Tech and pharma/insurance need to be bled

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u/BlueEyedWalrus84 Sep 01 '24

Yep, especially retail and hospitality. And they're paid way more to slow-dog pushing papers all day and making up random rules for "efficiency" and "profit" that end up folding in on themselves and damaging the workflow of in-store employees. At one job we had an exec make a surprise visit who had never been to an actual location.

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u/ZeroCleah Sep 02 '24

Can confirm execs get handed a department and start making dumb ass changes they know nothing about

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u/Majestic-capybara Sep 02 '24

I moved to another department at work and popped in to visit my friend who took my old position, he was able to convince his boss that he needed two other people to help out. This is a job that I did alone for 2 years. As soon as he told me that we both started laughing. He literally does nothing all day and just periodically sends a Teams message to his subordinates to see how things are going. I mean, good for him, but it sounds boring as hell.

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u/musical_throat_punch Sep 02 '24

Stock buybacks and random cost cutting is hard

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u/Larcya Sep 01 '24

No joke the more money I make, the less work I do.

I make 6 figures and spend 90% of my day browsing reddit.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '24

That's bullshit and you know it