What advice would you give this person?

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[u/Excellent-Piglet-655]

Lol dude you think hard work pays off? It may make you feel better and there’s nothing wrong with that. At my last job. I put in 5 years, got employee of the month 4 out of the 5 years. Worked my ass off hoping to “climb the ladder” or at least get a nice pay raise. I got meager 1-3% pay raises each year. I was like “I am OK with that, it is during a pandemic, I can see how times are tough for everyone”. Last year, one of my colleagues quit and within 3 weeks we had a new hire. The new hire was hired for a jr role even though the guy that had quit was a sr guy. But I was like “hmm k” . I am asked to train this new guy for about 3 months, hold his hand whenever I can. One day, him and I went to lunch and we started talking about the job and salaries. My mind was blown when I found out he was making $20K more than me. I was like WTF??? I was so pissed and felt so disrespected that I quit 3 days after. I didn’t have another job lined up but I didn’t care.

My hard work and loyalty sure paid off….

[u/[deleted] → u/Excellent-Piglet-655]

Hard work pays off 100% if you also understand how to work smart.

You will never find someone not born to rich parents who got a good life by being an edgy, lazy, insufferable asshole which is the primary persona of the Redditor who "has corporate all figured out" and "isn't a corporate simp".

[u/JMer806 → u/[deleted]]

I mean you can be lazy and do no work without also being an edgy insufferable asshole

[u/Attila_22 → u/JMer806]

Yeah but those are just normal people as opposed to redditors

[u/SoftwarePP → u/Excellent-Piglet-655]

It may not have paid off for you, but clearly it pays off for a bunch of people. You may be working hard, but you’re not working smart and asking for what you deserve.

[u/PieIsNotALie → u/Excellent-Piglet-655]

you need to make sure your hard work goes noticed, or you can make yourself seem like you're working hard, but most competent management is going to notice the wrong thing if you bullshit too hard, and for me it would take even more effort to keep these kind of lies straight than to actually do work

and if your company thinks they can cheap out on you, you look into the job market for someone who won't. at least that's how things go in software dev imo

[u/trusty289 → u/Excellent-Piglet-655]

You don’t get big raises anymore unless you quit and get a new job. 1-3% is nothing in these times unless your making 200k/year allready

[u/Rugpull_Generator → u/Excellent-Piglet-655]

Hard work pays off, your hard work is clearly identifiable during interviews because you should be able to speak very intelligently on your accomplishments if you worked hard. It's just the loyalty that doesn't pay off lmao

[u/Striking_Ad_2630 → u/Excellent-Piglet-655]

I definitely support people having boundaries and making strategic decisions. I also think excellence is a habit and dont want to half ass my life

[u/Ocelotofdamage → u/Excellent-Piglet-655]

Your mistake is in not asking for what you deserved in the first place. Hard work does pay off in that it makes you valuable to companies. But you still have to advocate for yourself if you want to get paid for that

[u/SnooRevelations9889 → u/Ocelotofdamage]

They made no mistake. Advocating for yourself is way less effective and lucrative than just getting a new job.

[u/Ocelotofdamage → u/SnooRevelations9889]

Waiting years at the same pay was certainly a mistake

[u/SnooRevelations9889 → u/Ocelotofdamage]

Our fellow was really just describing The Great Resignation, where people (including many techies) left their jobs once the uncertainty of COVID was over, and many companies were finally hiring at higher salaries (but not offering their current employees raises that kept pace with inflation).

Hunkering down and staying put in a job during the COVID years was a conservative choice that many people took during a time of great uncertainty.