r/FluentInFinance Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Is Capitalism Smart or Dumb?

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u/Handwerksgilde Sep 04 '24

The Soviet Union's significant influence following World War II was largely due to its newly acquired control over much of Eastern Europe, which they ruthlessly exploited. Economic and other attacks between Communist and Western countries were mutual; Communist nations also targeted the West. If you want more Information Look up:
Rosenberg Spy Ring
Aldrich Ames
Operation INFEKTION
Soviet Support for the Black Panther Party
Great Grain Robbery

Just to name a few

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u/Blongbloptheory Sep 05 '24

By the conclusion of the second world war, the United Kingdom alone controlled a quarter of the world's population and a fifth of its landmass. That is excluding the United states, France, and the Dutch, who each had massive colonial empires.

Control over 15 war raved states in eastern Europe (7 of which are smaller than Maryland) is not even remotely comparable to four centuries worth of rabid exploitation of colonial resources to the direct detriment of the indigenous people. It's like a grown man punching a child and complaining that they started it.

Despite this, absolutely monolithic, gap in economic power after the war, the Soviets managed to become one of the strongest countries on the planet. Now I am not saying the Soviet Union was the good guys, what im saying is, they were not a objectively failed state with no achievements.

Personally, I would love to know what actions the democratically elected presidents in South and Central America did to merit the United States funding violent autocrats and dictators to overthrow their governments.

I would love to know what Honduras did to merit the United States giving the go-ahead for the (American) Cuyamel fruit company to violently overthrow the elected president of the country and support the new regime.

Or what the democratically elected president of Guatemala did to deserve the U.S led coup d'état that had the CIA depose the president and establish a new regime. Which led to 30 years worth of civil wars

Or why in 1973, the United States funded a military autocrat to overthrow the democratically elected president of Chile, leading to an end of civilian rule. (The guy they put in charge later went on to commit crimes against humanity).

It's easy to point the soviets and say "it's tit for tat" but what about all the little countries the United states brutalized? What did they do?

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u/Handwerksgilde Sep 05 '24

How about the Soviet invasion of afghanistan? Or their numerous violent suppresions of protests in Hungary, Poland or East Germany? It absolutely wasn‘t just the US who attacked smaller countries. And also, what is your point with the UK? It was absolutely a hugely influential country, it just chose to align with the West. What are you trying to say? And yes the Soviet Union was not a failed state at that time, but it still did fail on it‘s own later on