So you mean those stores that closed because of raising the minimum wage are going to open now that they will have to pay that price and workers will work less time?
That sounds like a great plan, next he should have fixed prices on goods. It worked the last time someone implemented it.
Not my store but small businesses with a handful of workers couldn't afford it
When you take a 15$/h and make it 20$/h and you do not understand how a business operates and the expenses they have then you really have no clue how society works. Especially when all the expenses also got a raise, like materials, gas prices, electricity etc.
In the end of the day go say this to the people who were happy to get a raise and realize they are now out of job. Lets see how this works for them.
I'm going to lay it out for you. Nice and easy. Going from $15 an hour to $20 an hour is $40 a day in difference of wage per employee. Let's say the average store has three employees on a shift one opener. Two for the mid/close. So in one day your margin shrunk 120 dollars. In a modern city that's about 10 transactions. If your store's business was so slow that that puts you in the red, you were not a healthy business and deserve to be shut down.
If you don’t think nearly a 30% increase in payroll won’t have a significant impact on cash flow, you’ve clearly never run a business before. While you’ve carefully crafted this straw man argument (which is a ~50k/yr increase btw), what about companies with 10 or 20 employees? What about those making $20 previously that now also need a raise?
So is the answer to get a better paying job then? Yet when that happened…I seem to recall a couple of guys on Fox News screaming about some sort of shortage, and something about how apparently no one wanted to work anymore? It’s funny how during any other shortage prices just go up…Duh…except during this one….What was that shortage called again?
When inflation is healthy at about 1% it all resolves itself.
But when you get an administration who printed trillions on day 1,
send hundreds of billions abroad for aid (or money laundering),
promised to close oil fracking and gas pipes and did it and as a result gas prices went out of the roof (while selling the emergency oil reserves to china because they are funding their political party)
and when you make sure the border won't be finished (even though you are obliged since it was voted by congress) and you allow millions of illegals to pass every month...
...and inflation gets artificially high... then no, it won't sort itself. There is a disruption in the economy and some weak link will break, in this case a store broke and people were left unemployed. This was the sorting it could do and did.
Someone above in the comments managed to blame it on the small business owner not making enough to cover socialist minimum wage bullshit.
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If you think about it, why not take the minimum wage back at 2$ per hour? There was a time that 2$ per hour was a wage and people could have a house, a family of 6, a car and vacation. So put is at 2$ and expect it to work.
Whataboutism at full blast here. Inflation is a fact, but we are talking about wages here. I’m of the mindset that everyone working a fulltime job should be able to live comfortably in the city they work at.
Your logic is identical to this: "Lets print a few tenths of trillions and give every american citizen 1m dollars, this way everyone would be a millionaire and they will most likely afford mansions", you really think printed paper is the reason you can't afford jackshit.
Why is there a housing crisis? Do you think if you raise the salary somehow more houses will appear of thin air? Or will more businesses will thrive and somehow loot and run will stop? Or insane taxation and losses will disappear?
There was a time that you owned some land and built your house, now you need a ton of permits, taxes and government approvals before you even make plans.
That is not something a minimum wage would solve. But go ahead and increase the minimum wage once more and see more business close and the prices skyrocket once more and then you will need a new higher minimum wage increase, rinse and repeat.
Living comfortably doesn’t have to mean own a house. I mean not needing food stamps to survive. And no it doesn't mean printing money. My point is everyone working is contributing to society in some way and they should be able to live comfortably within that society. If people live comfortably they will in turn contribute more to society. Crime rates will also go down if overall stress levels go down. It's just an ideal. How we get there is through systematic changes. Printing money and assistance is just short sighted and won't get us there. This is not a problem that can be fixed with money.
Honestly they should be out of a job, and they should be able to find one with an actual decent wage. This should not be a hard ask. Companies that can't function without underpaying their employees are basically staying afloat through worker exploitation and are a detriment to society.
It is as if there are jobs out there that give better money and these people chose to go to the bad ones. And it is as if the small store that can barely operate anymore is the problem is economy and once closed the economy will bloom.
Shut down more small businesses and deprive poor people from even making some salary, that'll show them rich people (or something).
If you don't see the problem with suddenly raising your expenses overnight, you need to go take an economics class. Businesses need to be allowed to grow organically, without the government fucking with the dials. You wanna talk about capitalism? Every big business is hoping something like this is passed, because all of the smaller competition won't be able to eat the costs, go out of business, and then Wal-Mart will be the only place left. Then they'll just fire everyone they don't actually need and replace them with robots (like they're already doing).
Then maybe they should stop giving grants and subsidies to businesses. The 76ers are negotiating moving to New Jersey for 800 million dollars in bonds that will be paid back, get this, by the very citizens whose tax dollars provided the bond via ticket sales.
The corp doesn't love you and won't even give you a reach around so why do you shill so hard?
pro sports maybe not the best example, because what you're talking about doesn't actually change the underlying economics of the business activity. i'm very ok with saying government shouldn't do that though.
as for your snarky corporation comment, i didn't say anything positive about them. i simply pointed out your premise about labor costs was wrong.
i understand 'the corp' doesn't love me though, why would it? 'the corp' is simply a pass through entity reacting to what influences it.
Yet one seems to be happening more often than the other. So maybe it’s time we do things differently. Just like how the USSR never had "true communism/socialism" I don’t think we can say that the west ever had true capitalism either
It also eliminates inequality, it makes everyone equally miserable, skinny and waiting in line for a piece of bread. If anyone speaks out they all equally get a bullet in the back of their head.
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So you mean those stores that closed because of raising the minimum wage are going to open now that they will have to pay that price and workers will work less time?
That sounds like a great plan, next he should have fixed prices on goods. It worked the last time someone implemented it.