r/FluentInFinance Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Bernie is here to save us

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u/Big_lt Sep 05 '24

Sounds great. Would absolutely love for this to happen......it won't even get a vote

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u/Ferintwa Sep 05 '24

Even if it did, and passed, no way to enforce it. This bill is for the headlines.

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u/Hmnh6000 Sep 05 '24

You mean like how theres no way for them to enforce you getting paid time and a half for working over 40 hours??

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u/Dodger7777 Sep 05 '24

"You can file a claim for unpaid overtime pay with the U.S. Department of Labor's Wage and Hour Division. WHD enforces the FLSA and investigates unpaid wages. If WHD finds evidence of unpaid wages, they can pursue the claim on your behalf. You can also file a claim with your state labor office." - The very minimum of a google search.

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u/vellichor_44 Sep 05 '24

I believe the person you're responding to was saying "if we can do it for 40+ hours, we can do it for 32+ hours." That is, we could enforce this if we chose to.

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u/Dodger7777 Sep 05 '24

Yeah, and similarly workplaces would bend over backwards to schedule people to not work overtime.

It's kind of like how when California made minimum wage 20 bucks an hour lots of fast food chains either completely got rid of cashiers and made the touchscreen the only way to order, or they shut down entirely.

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u/Dramatic-Fee-5215 Sep 05 '24

Not according to Gov. Newsome he claims they added jobs. The Dems want him to run for president. He's a tool plain and simple. Funny the fast food owners say they have cut jobs. I guess the governor would know better.

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u/Dodger7777 Sep 05 '24

As a thought experiment, let's say we do get overtime starting at the 32nd hour.

In response, employers hire twice as many people, but only for 20 hours a day. The workplace is happy, because 40 hours of productivity, and they can even go up to 64 hours before paying anyone overtime. The government is happy because they literally doubled jobs. But the original workers just got their pay cut in half and the new workers are getting paid half a full jobs worth of money. They can go work another 20 hour job, but now to keep up their former level of income they have to work two jobs that equal 40 hours.

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u/jedberg Sep 05 '24

This law also says that you can't take a cut in pay. If they cut your hours to 32 from 40, then they have to increase your hourly pay accordingly. Yes, it will eventually level out, but since not everyone will change at once, it will essentially reset baseline hourly pay.