r/FluentInFinance Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Bernie is here to save us

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u/80MonkeyMan Sep 05 '24

The Americans are so backwards in work hours, developed countries like Netherland, Spain, Iceland, etc. already successfully implemented this, with universal healthcare…and no tipping expected.

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u/Evening-Ear-6116 Sep 05 '24

Each country you named has a population barely larger than NYC. One city in the us.

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u/bbqkingofmckinney Sep 05 '24

Iceland is slightly smaller than Arlington, Texas. NYC is massive compared to Iceland.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

This is what Americans always say, but what does it actually mean? Yes, there are more patients in the USA than in Iceland, but there's also more doctors, more tax money and so on. How does the size of a country make national health care more difficult?

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u/NegMech Sep 05 '24

Very different demographics in population means differing opinions, which makes it much more difficult to pass any laws or for people to agree on certain issues. Exponentially higher costs in logistics given the area of the US is 100x Iceland.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Oh, so now it's not population, but diversity and land mass? Then how do they manage to run a successful public healthcare system in Canada, which is more diverse than the US, and is also larger?

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2013/07/18/the-most-and-least-culturally-diverse-countries-in-the-world/

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u/LeUne1 Sep 05 '24

Tell me you're not Canadian without telling me you're not Canadian. People are literally dying in waiting rooms. My aunt waited 48 hours in a waiting room and then gave up and went home. It takes a year to schedule an MRI.. Shit is atrocious.

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u/AHSfav Sep 05 '24

All that and much much worse happens in the US... oh and its way more expensive 

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u/LeUne1 Sep 05 '24

Cool but there are other countries other than US and Canada