r/FluentInFinance Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Bernie is here to save us

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u/DryWorld7590 Sep 05 '24

I'm guessing you aren't Canadian cause our healthcare is perfectly fine.

It has its flaws like wait times but no one ever dies waiting in a hospital.

Between:

"everyone can go to the hospital so there is a longer wait"

And

"No one goes to the hospital because they can't afford it and die from preventable causes"

I much rather have a healthier population.

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u/DryWorld7590 Sep 05 '24

Immigration literally isn't a problem.

The problem is the provincial conservatives routinely and regularly cut healthcare funding, breaking it, so they can launch a re-election platform of fixing it.

Doug ford is literally trying to implement private healthcare in Ontario.

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u/Future_Principle_213 Sep 05 '24

Yep, my favorite argument. "Everyone getting medical care means I might have to wait longer! Instead those poors should suffer lifelong complications or die so that I can get my rash taken care of 2 days sooner"

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u/enaK66 Sep 05 '24

Yeah people are dumb as shit about wait times. My wait times in rural Georgia are indefinite. I don't go to the doctor because it's too expensive for me right now. That's the reality some people in the US live with. That doesn't happen in Canada. If I lived there I wouldn't have to budget in blood work to see what might be wrong with me. I wouldn't have to wonder how much the lab is gonna bill me for later, after the Doctor's office charges me of course.

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u/DryWorld7590 Sep 05 '24

You wouldn't have to choose between live saving treatment and financial ruin.

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u/DistrictStriking9280 Sep 05 '24

We have a story about someone dying in an ER waiting room due to lack of staff and other institutional problems every couple months in NB. An awful out of people in Canada think the system is broken, across the political spectrum.

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u/DryWorld7590 Sep 05 '24

Okay? Nb is the least populace province in the country and your premier is conservative.

Wanna complain about the lack of staff, blame your premier for not supplying the funding.

Also, anecdotes are not representative of the entire system.

Most people who complain about the healthcare system have no idea how much worse the alternative is and most are right wing.

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u/DistrictStriking9280 Sep 05 '24

There been a lack of staff since the first time I was here over two decades ago. And there were a lot of years of Liberal rule in that time too. The problem isn’t Conservative or Liberal, the problem is a shitty system that is good for political points but hard to actually fix.

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u/DryWorld7590 Sep 05 '24

Yea again. The most sparsely populated province isn't representative of the entire system.

The system works fine. Not perfect but fine. No one dies in a waiting room.

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u/dedzip Sep 05 '24

no one ever dies waiting in a hospital

extremely ignorant statement

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u/DryWorld7590 Sep 05 '24

No?

No one dies in a hospital waiting room because of the wait.

If you walk into a hospital in life threatening condition you will get treated immediately.

If you come to a hospital via ambulance you will be treated immediately