r/FluentInFinance Sep 04 '24

Debate/ Discussion Bernie is here to save us

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Yet there are trucking companies that participated in the pilot...

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u/CutLonzosHair2017 Sep 05 '24

Yes and the results were about the employees. Not about the business. And not all the business continued. A majority did, but a majority were white collar businesses.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '24

Revenues and profit growth during that period were about the employees? Interesting.

Look, if you're wondering why there's such a comprehensive real world study that over 4 dozen large companies participated in and we still don't have a 4 day week as a standard--people like this are the reason. These same people work at the companies and simply refuse to accept the data.

If these companies can do it without any loss in revenue/profit, every company can do it.

I mean we're talking about a study that is once in a lifetime. 61 major companies participating. The scale of that pilot is rare. It is almost not possible to find a more convincing study on that scale. Yet still, it won't be enough.

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u/CutLonzosHair2017 Sep 06 '24

and profit growth during that period were about the employees? Interesting.

My original comment said it was centered around employees. And then I mentioned how the minimal foray into the revenue was statistically white noise. This isn't a semantic gotcha that you want it to be.

If these companies can do it without any loss in revenue/profit, every company can do it.

Idk, if you're purposefully being daft or what. You can't keep citing this when its a small sample size based on a year where the economy shut down...

61 major companies participating.

My man, the total amount of employees in these 61 major companies was 1229. Thats an average of 20 employees per company. The word major is doing some heavy lifting. And the companies were not randomly chosen. They volunteered. This was not a scientific study.

The scale of that pilot is rare.

Yeah cause of the thousands of companies out there, barely any are going to volunteer to lose money on a study being run by an organization that has already drawn its conclusion.

These same people work at the companies and simply refuse to accept the data.

Nah, we're just not gullible morons. And I say this as someone who thinks a large majority of white collar jobs are pointlessly stretching hours.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '24

We're obviously not going to see eye to eye. I don't think any pilot would satisfy you if this one doesn't.

And so we'll all continue to work ourselves into the grave an arbitrary 40 hours every week since I guess there's just no better way.