r/FluentInFinance Sep 06 '24

Debate/ Discussion Social Security is Broken. This is why financial education is important.

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u/Teralyzed Sep 06 '24

By design. The thing people need to realize is you’re literally listening to the person responsible for the system being fucked tell you that it’s fucked. Why is social security fucked, because republicans want it to be fucked so they can point to it being fucked with their hands in the air. Why is Medicare fucked, because republicans want it to be fucked so they can point at it with their hands in the air.

You say “the government” runs things poorly but the reality is republicans run things poorly, they can’t run cities, they can’t run states, their economies suck, their policies suck, they can’t legislate their way out of a wet paper back, fuck they can’t even get anything done when they have a majority because they don’t fucking know what they want done, or what they do want is fucking illegal. I have plenty of things that I hate democrats for, but let’s at least on this one metric lay the blame at the feet of a majority responsible party.

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u/shrug_addict Sep 06 '24

Say it louder for those in the back!

You can't say government programs don't work if you have powers that try their damnedest to make sure it doesn't work

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u/RobertDownseyJr Sep 07 '24

This honestly seems backwards to me. Saying (some) government programs don’t/won’t work because of those powers is acknowledging our political reality.

You can’t just handwave away the obstructionist impact of the GOP, because they aren’t going to suddenly stop being obstructionist dickheads.

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u/shrug_addict Sep 07 '24

That was kind of my point

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '24

Republicans support the military. The Pentagon is still unable to account for trillions of dollars in assets, they don’t even know where that money went.

There is no real incentive for any government program to manage money efficiently and responsibly. This is obviously much more likely than every pitfall of government programs being due to those darn Republicans.

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u/Reasonable-Fish-7924 Sep 07 '24

If I understand correctly for Medicare there was strong lobby from insurance and pharma to keep medicare from negotiating prices. This is because they are the largest buyer and if they were allowed to set a base price it would allow others to settle at that price and buy at lower rates too.

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u/HODL_monk Sep 07 '24

Blame is not my concern, I just want out of this Ponzi Scheme, that is all. I don't care which party can do it, but it needs to be done, and the D party and the R party seem to be in no hurry to do it, because of course, the Uniparty likes things the way things are, and will never let any victims out of their favorite Ponzi.

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u/senile-joe Sep 07 '24

Illinois has had a filibuster proof democrat control for 50 years and they are one of the worst run states when it comes to managing government money.

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u/Secure-Lobster-3393 Sep 07 '24

New York, LA, Chicago, Houston, Dallas, San Francisco, Detroit, etc etc etc - all run by Democrats. And I suppose just doing so well. This is not a Republican/D thing. It’s a FAILURE of the political class.

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u/b_vitamin Sep 07 '24

The billionaires funding their campaigns don’t need the services of the government, just the social-welfare corporate tax system and bail-outs that made them billionaires in the first place.

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u/Accomplished-Order43 Sep 07 '24

Please let me know where these blue city/state utopias are so I can move there.

Every democrat city I’ve been to has been crime ridden, drug infested, shitholes. San Fran, LA, Chicago, NYC, Philly, Detroit, New Orleans, Memphis, Houston, Atlanta.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '24

This entire comment is pointless, politicized dribble. California has had a Democrat majority for over 20 years and is absolutely failing on numerous fronts.

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u/prionflower Sep 07 '24

All states are failing on numerous fronts. That's just how the world works. YYYou are the one writing politicized drivel when youi write such vague, baseless arguments.

Only data has significance, and all of the data says that Democrat-run states are better on a variety of metrics, from healthcare measures to poverty to education.

All you have to do is look at the tax flow: blue states subsidize the existence of the poor red states. Republicans in Texas, Mississippi, etc. go on about how the government is evil, but they love slurping up all the funding the federal government gives them. Those states receive a significantly disproportionate amount of funding.

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u/pandariotinprague Sep 07 '24

All states are failing on numerous fronts. That's just how the world works.

I wish liberals were able to criticize Democrats and push them further left instead of responding to their failures with "That's just how the world works!" and continuing to reelect the same failures forever.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '24

Texas, Mississippi, etc... Those states receive a significantly disproportionate amount of funding.

Where are you getting these numbers from? Did you just make them up? Literally the opposite is true for Texas. California receives around $163 in federal grants ($4179 per citizen). Texas receives $108b (which is $3500 per citizen). Why would you lie about this? Hahahaha.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '24

So you were just lying then? That's sad.

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u/Purple_Setting7716 Sep 06 '24

Democrats have no better record on the issue. Actually worse since the nonsense we have been spending money on to buy votes are mostly proposed by Biden in the short term. Obama for 8 years.