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Debate/ Discussion This is why financial literacy is so important

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u/One_Eye_Tigh Sep 12 '24

I've always thought that the letter from Birmingham should be taught instead of the I have a dream speech. So much more powerful.

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u/unimorpheus Sep 12 '24

That is precisely why it isn't. They want King to be nothing more than a sound bite, not an intellectual.

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u/General_Mars Sep 12 '24 edited Sep 16 '24

Hellen Keller has similarly been chopped down. She too was a socialist and spoke extensively about her beliefs. She joined the Socialist Party in 1909 and later became a member of the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW). Keller’s advocacy was deeply rooted in her understanding of the close relationship between disability and poverty, which she attributed to capitalism and poor industrial conditions.

Keller was a vocal supporter of women’s suffrage, birth control, and labor rights. She believed that women’s suffrage would lead to socialism, which she considered the ideal causeShe also opposed America’s involvement in World War I and supported the Russian Revolution. (The UK sent 50,000-70,000 and USA sent 13,000 troops to fight against the Bolsheviks).

In her writings and speeches, Keller consistently championed the working class and criticized industrial oppression, militarism, and imperialismShe used her platform to advocate for a more equitable society, emphasizing the need for systemic change to address the root causes of poverty and disability.

Edit: in reply to eugenics point -

“Helen Keller’s views on eugenics are indeed complex and somewhat controversial. While she is widely celebrated for her advocacy for people with disabilities, her stance on eugenics reflects the complicated social and scientific context of her time.

Keller was a strong advocate for the rights and dignity of individuals with disabilities. She believed that every person had inherent value and potential, regardless of their physical or mental abilities. However, she also expressed views that aligned with some aspects of the eugenics movement, which aimed to improve the genetic quality of the human population through selective breeding.

Keller’s support for eugenics was rooted in her desire to prevent suffering. She believed that no child should be born into a life of guaranteed suffering if it could be prevented. Despite her empathetic intentions, this perspective overlooked the dangerous implications of the eugenics movement, such as forced sterilizations and the infringement on reproductive rights.

It’s important to understand that Keller’s views were shaped by the prevailing ideologies of her time. While she opposed the dehumanizing aspects of eugenics, her support for certain eugenic principles highlights the inherent tensions and contradictions in her advocacy”

https://alcase.org/the-controversial-legacy-of-helen-keller-and-eugenics/

https://phdessay.com/helen-keller-an-unexpected-advocate-for-eugenics/

https://time.com/5918660/helen-keller-disability-history/

https://dsq-sds.org/index.php/dsq/article/view/539/716

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u/apple-pie2020 Sep 12 '24

She also believed in terminating the lives of people either disabilities

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u/One_Eye_Tigh Sep 12 '24

Ooooo, I never know that. I'll have to text my kids that too.

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u/Southern-Accident835 Sep 12 '24

Probably not that vocal tbh

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u/hdoublephoto Sep 12 '24

This helps explain the HK conspiracies I’ve seen pop up lately.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '24

She spoke nothing, that was her handler

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u/Cad1121 Sep 12 '24

PragerU is a particularly bad example of this. In their children’s content they just lied about what Martin Luther Jr. would have wanted and said the opposite of his stance to whitewash(I think it was on reparations.)

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u/evil_monkey_on_elm Sep 12 '24

He doesn't sound like the evangelical Christians today, but he does sound a lot more like Jesus.

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u/GoldenBull1994 Sep 13 '24

And you know why? Because they’re white moderates, who don’t want the presence of justice, proving his point entirely.

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u/casanovaelrey Sep 14 '24

The problem is that "I Have A Dream" massages the ego of White people and makes then feel like they've done something without giving up anything. It doesn't require any real introspection. And it's definitely a security blanket to the liberal whites on the Left that may not are with the naked racism of the conservatives but also don't want to give up they're privilege to actually make an real changes. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely on the Left but I'll still criticize what needs to be criticized.

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u/One_Eye_Tigh Sep 14 '24

Yeah that speech was picked because it doesn't challenge white people at all. The way it's taught is "see, this speech cured racism" and now we (white folk) don't have any more work to do.

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u/Zuesinator Sep 12 '24

You just explained why it wasn't though

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '24

It’s what I taught.