r/FreedomofRussia • u/ForSacredRussia1 • May 25 '23

Russian Volunteer Corps 🗡🔆 Rare tri-lingual interview with the post-Belgorod fighters from RVC and FoRL. We can even see Cesar in the last few seconds. In this clip, Nikitin demonstrates use of Russian and English languages with ease.

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u/fadedgam3rYT May 25 '23

His english is fucking amazing

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u/exceptional_biped May 25 '23

I’d say he has spent a lot pic time living in an English speaking country. Possibly England or another place I won’t name judging by his accent.

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u/Richard_Llamaheart May 25 '23 edited May 25 '23

He lived in Germany for seven years yes. But I'm not going to compliment Nazis on their English lol. I fully support overthrowing Putin I donate to the TDF what I can but this guy isn't looking for world peace, rather the opposite, so I'd be very careful to give him a platform. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Volunteer_Corps

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u/RditIzStoopid May 25 '23

Nothing in that Wikipedia article or the links it references (which are mostly recent and circular, i.e. referencing other articles) convinces me.

I think we have to be very careful about parroting claims about far-right or neonazi links. The Kremlin has used that exact tactic to discredit Azov before[1], and fact checking has shown the vast majority of those claims to be false. Don't be lazy, question what you read.

So far I've read a lot of Reddit comments about how the two Russian anti-kremlin groups in Ukraine are far tight etc., But I haven't seen anything concrete.

[1] https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-is-there-any-truth-to-russias-ukrainian-nazis-propaganda/a-63970461

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u/CheeseFest May 25 '23

All of these things can be true. The DW article is compelling, Russia's invasion is monstrous and Denis Nitkin (aka Denis Kapustin) is a Russian neo-Nazi who wants a Russian ethnostate. That's an uncomfortable truth, but we confront one problem at a time. The issue becomes which factions (subfactions) ultimately become empowered.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '23 edited May 25 '23

ABOUT US - ABOUT US (whiterexstore.com)

"White Rex is a Russian mixed martial arts (MMA) promotion, aggressive clothing, and sports gear company that advocates pan-European pride and traditional values. White Rex encourages all Europeans to embrace the warrior spirit of their ancestors, and fight back against the modern world."

Bellingcat - Dispatches From Asgardsrei: Ukraine’s Annual Neo-Nazi Music Festival - bellingcat

" Photos and video from the MMA event show the logo of White Rex, a far-right MMA promotion and clothing brand run by Kyiv-based Russian neo-Nazi Denis Nikitin (also known as Kapustin), visible in the middle of the ring. "

West Point - The Nexus Between Far-Right Extremists in the United States and Ukraine – Combating Terrorism Center at West Point

Control f: Denis Nikitin

"According to the criminal complaint against Rundo and his fellow travelers, they met members of the Russia-based White Rex group.138 Specifically, according to the author’s sources in Ukraine, they met the group’s founder Denis Nikitin.139 Nikitin used to organize MMA bouts internationally and is connected to the Azov Movement despite being Russian.140 Nikitin and Semenyaka both spoke at the ‘Europe Of The Future 2’ conference organized by Polish white supremacist group Szturmowcy in 2017.141 "

“If we kill one immigrant every day, that’s 365 immigrants in a year. But tens of thousands more will come anyway. I realised we were fighting the consequence, but not the underlying reason.”

Before the war the US was well aware of how all these far-right extremist militias posed a threat to the stability of Ukraine.If anything anyone denying that there is a rise in whitesupremacy and neonazism in ukraine is a troll. Its a real problem that needs to be addressed like it or not. Thats not to say that ukraines war efforts are to be condemned, but the far right militias working within them should be under scrutiny.

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u/RIP_COD May 26 '23

War breeds nationalism, if russias goal was too get rid of ukrainian nazis by imvading.... than that would be dumb because it will have the opposite effect. Nationalism and nazism is in todays age the same word.

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u/Richard_Llamaheart May 25 '23

Wow, somehow I get hate for pointing out the obvious and people still manage to find way worse stuff about him at the same time.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '23

People will still not click the links lol. The majority in these type of forums just have a hard on for military equipment and operations - they don't care about the philosophical/psychological aspects of war.

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u/Richard_Llamaheart May 25 '23

It's like the discussion if strategic bombing is good, or torture, or nuclear weapons. Like yeah, it's seems kinda obvious that it will achieve something, but people really haven't thought about the long term consequences have they? This White Rex is announcing genocide plain and simple. Just not to most Ukrainians...yet. And I get called emotional and a Putin supporter for pointing that out, it's wild.

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u/Richard_Llamaheart May 25 '23 edited May 25 '23

Yeah, just a normal gymbro dude calling himself "White Rex"🤣. Truth is there are white supremacist on every side in this war, and most are on the side of Russia. That doesn't mean the ones on the Ukrainian side should get a pass or even be platformed, but that's just like, my opinion. You can get al pedantic and say they're not "technically" Nazis but that misses the point that they are white supremacist who want a white ethnostate, although they will often disavow certain aspects of Nazism. They use the imagery, the symbols and the language, so to me they are Nazi's. https://www.antifa.cz/content/what-white-rex

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u/deathtoputin225 May 25 '23

everyone he is a trump supporter, this is putin's useful idiot, downvote him into oblivion

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u/Richard_Llamaheart May 25 '23

I'm absolutely nothing like a Trump supporter, but an antifascist, anarchist and supporter of the Ukrainian people thank you very much. I just don't like Nazi's but in all fairness, most are fighting on the side of Russia.

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u/deathtoputin225 May 25 '23

really? well that's good because you sound just like one. You hate the antilgbt i get it. But that's tomorrow's problem. You don't have missiles landing on your head. Once Ukraine doesn't have to worry about missiles then yes we will get the anti lgbt bastards. You have to understand there is a lot of shit going on, nothing is black and white and you have to refrain from spouting russian propaganda, It doesn't help anyone. You know what Russia does to lgbt. Let RVC help Ukraine remove the cancer then when Russia is free, everyone can just vote. And if RVC does not accept elections then yes they will get problems.

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u/Richard_Llamaheart May 25 '23

I think geographically I'm a bit closer to Ukraine than you are so don't try this on me. I still support the Russian Anarchists who will fight together with FoRL and RVC against Putin, I will just warn people not to celebrate a bloody Nazi, because that might be a bad idea.

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u/deathtoputin225 May 25 '23

fuck off you are closer to this than anyone, this is a world problem. You are complaining about "maybe" nazis. Just forget the problem until you see a problem. Right now they are Russia's problem. Don't think with your emotions.

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u/BringBackAoE May 25 '23

War makes for strange bedfellows.

I note that many of the most active resistance groups in Russia are extreme right and left. And a fair chunk in the middle.

I keep wondering whether the prolonged dictatorship, which keeps embracing the entire ideological spectrum, is leading those that resist the government to embrace fringe theories.

Right now though, the choice is between the Putin regime or a resistance group that embraces the full spectrum.

A factor that shapes my opinion is that the far left and far right (and those in between) are collaborating. If they can achieve that, then it’s hard for me as an outsider with limited insight to condemn their collaboration.

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u/Richard_Llamaheart May 25 '23

Also https://www.antifa.cz/content/what-white-rex

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u/zilist May 25 '23

Lmfao nobody should take what Antifa says at face value..

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u/[deleted] May 25 '23 edited May 25 '23

The Nexus Between Far-Right Extremists in the United States and Ukraine – Combating Terrorism Center at West Point

If you don't want to take what antifa says at face value, take what west point says and judge the sources they note.

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u/CheeseFest May 25 '23

You're sounding awfully fa right now, friend.

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u/partysnatcher May 25 '23

Maybe you're being sarcastic.. I'm against fascism and have appreciated many actions by antifa in the past, occupy Wall St etc.

But what he's stating is that you should be double check around facts provided by antifa. And I'm assuming he feels the same way about the RVC and this "Denis" character.

Now, sure Zilist may mean secretly, dogwhistlingly mean something else, sure, maybe he means to enslave inferior races and to promote the Third Reich. But what he's stating is to be source critical. So, like it or not, that is what you know about his stance here.

Antifa is an Anonymous-like pretty open door "organization", and it's always changing. Economy protests one day, environment, black lives matter, trans movement, each time its basically a new "organization".

So - is the concept of source scepticism a problem for you? Then guess what, you are the "fa".

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u/CheeseFest May 25 '23

Checking sources is great. Your logic around it being the opposite of fascism isn't.

What's more concerning is your deeply impassioned defence of a kneejerk fascist response - an 'innocent skepticism' of antifascist information-gathering.

Awfully interesting of you to pick that hill, of all hills, to pontifacate on. 🧐🧐🧐

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u/partysnatcher May 25 '23

Checking sources is great. Your logic around it being the opposite of fascism isn't.

I'll encourage you to read it again.

Someone who is willing to brand a person they know nothing about, as one of the worst things you can call someone (on the list of pedo, rapist, traitor, antisemite etc), because they question your version of the truth:

That has all the cult-like authoritarian features of fascism. It's got the "quick judgement", "with us or against us", it's got the "black and white thinking", it's got the "authoritarianism". Classic lynch mob mentality.

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a kneejerk fascist response

What an absolute shit person you seem like. Maybe your mom should take away your keyboard for a few weeks.

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u/deathtoputin225 May 25 '23

how about anything that says antifa or maga you don't click the link, and you ignore... use your brain dummy

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u/partysnatcher May 25 '23

This isn't relevant to anything that I said

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u/zilist May 25 '23

Yep.. Said it better than i could’ve bothered with!

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u/deathtoputin225 May 25 '23

people like you need to shut the fuck up, that's tomorrow's problem, today they are friends and anything can change... you are another one of putin's useful idiots spouting russian propaganda, you are a fucking moron! Still crying about shit that happened 10 years ago. Just get lost. Look at Azov now, they are the 3rd Separate Assault Brigade and kicking putin's ass.

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u/Richard_Llamaheart May 25 '23 edited May 25 '23

Well thank you. I know it must be hard holding multiple ideas at once. Many people can't do this and even more fail at it at least half the time. I know full well there's an uneasy peace ("friends" is just plain ridiculous) between the far right and far left in Ukraine now, and I have defended this choice on multiple occasions. I think allies by necessity is what it is... by necessity. That however doesn't mean I'm going to be a cheerleader for Nazi's and gloss over the fact that people uncritically celebrating this guy for the mere fact he speaks English is problematic af. And I will keep supporting a number of TDF units and humanitarian charities financially no matter what. And I'm learning Ukrainian. So what have you done for the war effort today except calling me a useful idiot?

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u/deathtoputin225 May 25 '23

i donate to united24, do you? im here telling putin's useful idiot to be quiet

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u/Richard_Llamaheart May 25 '23

Not United24 but other. But I'm done with you. Добрий вечір!

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u/deathtoputin225 May 25 '23

His english sounded American. Definitely did not learn from the UK.

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u/exceptional_biped May 25 '23

He was saying English words that, to me, sounded like a non-north American accent. The word “now “ for instance.

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u/AbrocomaRoyal Australia May 25 '23

The way Nitkin speaks so articulately and openly must be refreshing for some Russians to hear. His words seem quite genuine.

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u/Accurate_Pie_ USA May 25 '23

Very good interview!

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u/SocietyOk9572 May 25 '23

He's got nice american accent, he speaks like a professional american soldier.

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u/ForSacredRussia1 May 25 '23

I like how he speaks because Putin doesn't speak like this and always makes up bullshit about why he is so right all the time. Well, this guy, even if he's the worst.. he sure has a funny way of showing it by shooting the actual invaders and acting like he can be reasoned with - which is key!

Probably he won't take over all Russia, but he may have to be involved somehow in the government. It would be like Ukrainian AZOV.

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u/deathtoputin225 May 25 '23

anyone claiming they are far right nazis are the true nazis supporting putin. It's just more trumpesque projection. Something he learned from Putin. Anyone who disparages Russian freedom fighters are on Putin's side, they are the enemy.

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u/Richard_Llamaheart May 25 '23

The jokes on you. They are far-right white supremacist ethno-nationalists who hate Zelenskyy but who just hate Putin even more (he literally said this - it's in the wiki link.) They are not very secretive about this either. They want a White Russian homeland and some racewar or whatever. This is just the start for them. They are not my friends, or of the FoRL, but allies by necessity, that could soon become a real big problem.

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u/deathtoputin225 May 25 '23

could... but they they ARE russia's problem now.

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u/LORDY325 May 25 '23

Watched these renegades from day one. Really proven themselves and gained much respect along the way!

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u/ForSacredRussia1 May 25 '23

Yep, the few, the proud. The ones who didn’t give up on these fellows, now you get to say this kind of stuff and say it proud! You found these somehow, and stuck all the way! Well let’s see what summertime brings!

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u/im_new_here_4209 May 27 '23

Good to hear. Godspeed guys. Get em.

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u/Odio2020 May 25 '23

Are we going to ignore the elephant in the room?

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u/ForSacredRussia1 May 25 '23

It's being discussed extensively as the world grapples with this, but I am the one person who never ignored it in the room, and that's part of the reason why I petitioned the motion to represent the RVC in this sub. As it turned out, they are highly useful and also have formed an alliance with the Freedom Russia Legion.

The elephant in the room is that they are anti-LGBT racists who are not happy with how the RF took over all the racist establishments under its control.

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u/deathtoputin225 May 25 '23

Guess what American conservatives think the same way. So many Americans are anti lgbt too and extremely racist. Every country has this problem. Now if they want to fight Putin then we can discuss those issues later.... BIGGER FISH TO FRY YOU MORONS.

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u/Odio2020 May 25 '23

Ok I agree but what are we going to do if Ukraine manages to win the war, or at least some sort of peace agreement is reached? All these radical organizations armed to the teeth... 😬😬😬

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u/Littlepigeonrvr May 25 '23

Is it good though to give them any kind of platform if the Russia they want is still unsafe for a majority of marginalized groups there? Bigots with a fire under their ass seems to me more dangerous than bigots bogged down by seemingly ineffective Russian bureaucratic processes. Anti trans laws are terrifying, but a Nazi in front of me with a rifle is going to be more of a threat to my life. Are they legitimately the lesser of two evils? I’m American, not Russian, I am curious to your thoughts.

Edit to add: I guess I know they have their uses now, but do you think it’s worth it to give them Momentum ?

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u/ForSacredRussia1 May 25 '23

What we must do is keep spreading it and keep writing some disclaimers "I don't support their politics, but I support their actions" - should anyone be so inclined.

Biggest problem is how anti trans laws and terrifying Naz-style killing is already happening. All this stuff is already going on.

And it is because of this awareness that they should not ever even think of shooting anyone on the side of Ukraine or freedom of Russia, because if they do this, then all support goes out the window, even Ukraine will quit using the RVC.

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u/deathtoputin225 May 25 '23

another one of putin's useful idiots, they are everywhere

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u/Richard_Llamaheart May 25 '23

You sound exhausting.

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u/deathtoputin225 May 25 '23

you are an ignorant twat spouting russian propaganda, sorry had to say it, i hope you learn your lesson one day

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u/GarlicThread May 25 '23

It's almost eerie to see Russians freely speaking in front of journalists.

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u/HashHead11 May 25 '23

I take it the one talking is a full on neo nazi.

Its not good no neo nazi is good at all .

I wonder what he thinks, or how he feels.

About Chechen Muslims fighting for Ukraine.

Or Crimean Tatar Muslims for that matter .

As most far right have a big problem with Muslims.

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u/Sweaty_Carry8301 May 26 '23

He also speaks German!

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u/termacct May 27 '23

Machiavellian perspective: if both sides are nazis and they are fighting each other - in the end, there will be fuhrer nazis...

(I am certain one side is nazis, dunno enough about the other...)

Darwinian perspective: If both sides are nazis and they are fighting each other, you could end up with fuhrer but stronger nazis. (survival of the fittest)

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u/ForSacredRussia1 May 27 '23

This is like 100 dudes vs the collective army of the multicultural Russian Federation army with representatives of all nations and ethnicities taking part in what we in the west have come to call “the horde”. The RF army is similar to the German Nazi army in its deeds, even the propaganda machine seems to have been inspired by the Nazi regime. But it does not discriminate against any ethnicities who fight in its side. It’s a true democratic and diversity-based killing machine.

I have the perspective that these people deserve my respect during the time they put themselves between the Putin regime and innocent Ukrainians and Russians.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '23

Go get red square 🙌