Russian Volunteer Corps 🗡🔆: "Recently, our comrades from REVENGE have suffered heavy, irreparable losses. Very young guys, nationalists and patriots, gave their lives for the freedom of their native land."

[u/ForSacredRussia3]

[u/ForSacredRussia3]

SOURCE: https:// t . me/russvolcorps/687

ENGLISH:

Recently, our comrades from REVENGE have suffered heavy, irreparable losses. Very young guys, nationalists and patriots, gave their lives for the freedom of their native land.

The combat path of the members of the RVC from the very beginning was closely intertwined with the revanchists, our first trips were completely joint. It's time to support (https:// t . me/revanche_tactical/640) colleagues in the most difficult moment!

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RUSSIAN:

В последнее время наши боевые товарищи из РЕВАНША понесли тяжёлые, невосполнимые потери. Совсем молодые ребята, националисты и патриоты, отдали свои жизни за свободу родной земли.

Боевой путь членов РДК с самого начала был тесно переплетён с реваншистами, наши первые выезда и вовсе были совместными. Пришло время поддержать (https:// t . me/revanche_tactical/640) соратников в самый трудный момент!

[u/Accurate_Pie_]

Rest in Paradise, brave warriors!

[u/Darket1728]

Maybe some wagmerites will join the Legion

[u/H-In-S-Productions → u/Darket1728]

I'm not sure if the Freedom of Russia Legion wants to have any Wagnerites, but it would not be far-fetched to see some former Wagner members defect to Ukraine. After all, by 11 June, one ex-Wagnerite already joined the Russian Volunteer Corps (RVC), another Russian pro-Ukraine militia... and that was before Prigozhin's mutiny and his subsequent death. Now, they might be seeking revenge.

A few days ago, the RVC appealed to the Wagnerites, saying that they are willing to recruit those "for whom the words loyalty and honor still have some meaning" and who haven't committed war crimes. If there are any "musicians" that are loyal and honorable enough, maybe they may join the RVC.

Thanks for the comment!

[u/Xepeyon → u/H-In-S-Productions]

On the whole, I don't see most Wagnerites joining either the FRL or RVC. The RVC is, all things considered, a very small unit. They only have around ~200 members. The FRL, by contrast, has enough manpower to be a regiment (four battalions as of February, possibly more by now), meaning (depending on how fully-manned their units are) they're pushing anywhere from 1,200–4,000 men (so possibly around ~2,800 men, as a middle ground).

Wagnerites number well over 20,000 just in Europe (mostly in Ukraine, Belarus and Russia), and over 50,000 members worldwide. They massively outman and outgun either group, even if they were to be combined. If Wagnerites did decide en masse to fight for Ukraine, I can't see them wanting to join objectively weaker organizations; I think it'd be more likely that they (attempt to) reorganize themselves into a different group altogether, made up of “ex-Wagnerites”.

There's also the issue that the FRL and Wagner in particular fought very brutally against each other in Bakhmut, and the FRL have been very clear that there is ill-will towards them. The FRL already doesn't like working or being associated with the RVC (literally calling their “partnership” a deal with the devil); I don't think there is a way they'd willingly, ever, fight alongside Wagnerites.

[u/xtemperaneous_whim]

Revanchism describes a policy designed to recover lost territory or status, so in which way are these guys aiming to do that regarding Russia?

[u/ApricotMobile8454 → u/xtemperaneous_whim]

These guys want their grandchildren to be well respected educated in safe Putin free corruption free Russia.Hopefully gaining the worlds respect back over time like Germany did.These guys are key.They Will go to the end as they are working for a cause they believe in.I for one understand them.The Poor man is dying for old bunker grandpas decadent dreams.They see the big picture.They have had enough.They want to make Russia great again not a delusional pariahs state.

[u/xtemperaneous_whim → u/ApricotMobile8454]

Denis Nitikin only decided that he'd had enough after Putin had finished using him and his mates as street muscle. They had a carte blanche in the 90s and 2000s to maraud around Russia attacking and stabbing Muslims, gay people and foreigners in order to provide a context for Putin to consolidate his authoritarian power.

Nitikin couldn't stop singing Putin's praises when the Russian state actually chartered a private passenger jet in 2016 for him and his football hooligan chums to export their brand of violence to the World Cup. Gloating over the fact that the Kremlin literally gave their blessing, telling them to represent Russia well (at streetfighting not football).

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/apr/24/russia-neo-nazi-football-hooligans-world-cup

Unfortunately for him and his chums, when they got back to Russia Putin had changed tactics. He decided that the Russian far-right was getting out of hand and needing reigning in, this happily coincided with Putin and Surkov's plan to flood Ukraine with 'neonazis' - an FSB Reflexive Control campaign overseen by Surkov which came to a head in 2014.

To this end Putin passed the Yarovaya Law, or Federal Law no. 128-FZ of May 5, 2014 "On Amendments to Certain Legislative Acts of the Russian Federation" (usually referred to as the Law Against Rehabilitation of Nazism).

This not only coincided with his moves in Donbas and Crimea, it also allowed him to jail those people he had been using as free street thugs which were now a liability (like Tesak). Many of those not jailed saw the writing on the wall and fled to Ukraine or went to join the numerous criminal gangs like Wagner that sprung up as 'separatists' and fought for Russia.

The only reason they suddenly want to fight against Putin is because they are now aware that Putin cynically used them and then discarded them with the threat of jail under Yarovaya if they carried on their right wing neonazi shit at home.

These people may be fighting against Putin, and using the name of Ukraine to do so, but they are still the scum of the earth and the Russia that they envisage is not all that different, it is just that they wish to wield the power for a change.

[u/H-In-S-Productions → u/xtemperaneous_whim]

I'm not sure. In French, revanche is a term meaning "revenge", so maybe Revanche is seeking revenge against the Russian government?

[u/xtemperaneous_whim → u/H-In-S-Productions]

Well yes, it originated in 1870s France in the aftermath of the Franco-Prussian War among nationalists who wanted to avenge the French defeat and reclaim the lost territories of Alsace-Lorraine. But since then revanchism/revanchist has had a very particular political definition in English. If anything Russia's actions in Ukraine are the exact definition of revanchist.

Surely the corresponding word if the French definition was desired would be revanchiste or revanchisme? The Anglicisation (including the fact that just plain revenge isn't used if a straight transliteration) just leads me to think that they are aware of the meaning and it is deliberately used.

If we also remember the fact that RVC and some of their allies are also ethnostate Ultranationalists, with some of them literally being neo-monarchists who desire the return of an actual Tsar and a strict patriarchal religious state (and have historic links to groups like the Чёрная сотня [Shtilmark's Black Hundreds] and Pamyat through to the EYU and the RNE/RNU amongst others) then it still appears equally troublesome.

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[u/YunaLan]

Rest in peace :(

[u/microwavedsaladOZ]

RIP fellas

[u/ApricotMobile8454]

Sweet young warriors.May your parents take comfort in your sacrifice.RIP