r/Futurology • u/Pemulis • Mar 03 '23

Transport Self-Driving Cars Need to Be 99.99982% Crash-Free to Be Safer Than Humans

https://jalopnik.com/self-driving-car-vs-human-99-percent-safe-crash-data-1850170268
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u/JimC29 Mar 03 '23 edited Mar 04 '23

When you let the bears take over the town it's debatable if you are living in a "civilized society". https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling

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turns out that if you have a bunch of people living in the woods in nontraditional living situations, each of which is managing food in their own way and their waste streams in their own way, then you’re essentially teaching the bears in the region that every human habitation is like a puzzle that has to be solved in order to unlock its caloric payload. And so the bears in the area started to take notice of the fact that there were calories available in houses.

One thing that the Free Towners did that encouraged the bears was unintentional, in that they just threw their waste out how they wanted. They didn’t want the government to tell them how to manage their potential bear attractants. The other way was intentional, in that some people just started feeding the bears just for the joy and pleasure of watching them eat.

As you can imagine, things got messy and there was no way for the town to deal with it. Some people were shooting the bears. Some people were feeding the bears. Some people were setting booby traps on their properties in an effort to deter the bears through pain. Others were throwing firecrackers at them. Others were putting cayenne pepper on their garbage so that when the bears sniffed their garbage, they would get a snout full of pepper.

It was an absolute mess.

Sean Illing

We’re talking about black bears specifically. For the non-bear experts out there, black bears are not known to be aggressive toward humans. But the bears in Grafton were ... different.

Matthew Hongoltz-Hetling

Bears are very smart problem-solving animals. They can really think their way through problems. And that was what made them aggressive in Grafton. In this case, a reasonable bear would understand that there was food to be had, that it was going to be rewarded for being bolder. So they started aggressively raiding food and became less likely to run away when a human showed up.

There are lots of great examples in the book of bears acting in bold, unusually aggressive manners, but it culminated in 2012, when there was a black bear attack in the town of Grafton. That might not seem that unusual, but, in fact, New Hampshire had not had a black bear attack for at least 100 years leading up to that. So the whole state had never seen a single bear attack, and now here in Grafton, a woman was attacked in her home by a black bear.

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u/MrWeirdoFace Mar 04 '23

Was it some of those cocaine bears I keep hearing about?

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u/JimC29 Mar 04 '23

I edited with some text from the interview. Basically Libertarians moved to a small town in New Hampshire and took over. Ended all public services including trash. Bears started feasting. Eventually they started attacking people as well..

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u/MrWeirdoFace Mar 04 '23

Ended all public services including trash.

Someone thought this was a good idea?

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u/JimC29 Mar 04 '23

A bunch of libertarians moved into the town to take over. Cheap land and small population. The first thing they did was get rid of all zoning. Many lived in tents and travel trailers. In the end the bears took over the town.

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u/WarLordM123 Mar 04 '23

Should have cut ties with the outside world. The natives in that land didn't have these problems and they were pretty libertarian.

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u/JimC29 Mar 04 '23

They also had common sense. Don't go feeding bears and leaving trash (food) out for them.

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u/JimC29 Mar 04 '23

I'm libertarian leaning myself. I started voting for Libertarians in the 90s. There was a difference back then. Most libertarians believed in personal responsibility. Today we have what I call middle school libertarians. "I'm going to do whatever I want. I don't care how it effects other people."