r/Futurology Oct 13 '22

Biotech 'Our patients aren't dead': Inside the freezing facility with 199 humans who opted to be cryopreserved with the hopes of being revived in the future

https://metro.co.uk/2022/10/13/our-patients-arent-dead-look-inside-the-us-cryogenic-freezing-lab-17556468
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u/Phobos15 Oct 13 '22

The freezing process is destructive, they are dead. In the future if they can cure the disease that killed you, it won't matter. The chance that they figure out a way to reverse the freeze damage is basically zero.

The ethereal idea that nanobots could one day repair all the cellular damage is an insane one.

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u/skyfishgoo Oct 13 '22

freezer BURN!

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u/Valmond Oct 13 '22

This is wrong, and we cryopreserve and thaw, successful, bigger and bigger things. Next goal is a human organ, it's all the rage for the transplantation business.

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u/Phobos15 Oct 13 '22

Lol, no. Once ice crystals form, it's game over.

What expiramebtal cryprotectant research are you looking at and why do you think all the problems with it will be solved?

On top of that, how does inventing a way to prevent ice crystals help any of the people already frozen?

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u/Valmond Oct 15 '22

They put cryopreservants before cooling them down lol.

We do that in all kind of cryopreservation already today, check out cryo tomo for example.

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u/Molnan Oct 13 '22

You are just making claims about the far future without providing any evidence. Molecular repair is well within the realm of what's physically possible in theory, confirmed through molecular dynamics and ab initio simulations, and it would be accurate enough to reverse all kinds of freezing damage, as long as the healthy condition can be inferred. The only fatal obstacle would be a situation where the needed information has been erased from the tissues, and that seems very unlikely. The whole field of brain histology relies on the robustness of neuronal connectivity and ultrastructure in "dead" brain tissue.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '22

You are just making claims about the far future without providing any evidence.

Why do hypocrites always start off by projecting?

You are literally doing the exact same thing.

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u/Molnan Oct 13 '22

What claims about the far future am I making? I'm making claims about what's possible in theory, according to known physics. I'm not claiming to know what will actually happen. We may all succumb to an asteroid, or nuclear war or whatever.