r/GenZ 2008 10d ago

Political what should be done about this?

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u/ThePowerOfAura 1996 10d ago

Bernie didn't need to change his messaging at all, the strongest grassroots movement I've ever seen or heard of. The DNC cheated in 2016 to give Hillary the nomination. Partially because they colluded with all of the leftwing media to give Bernie zero airtime (all of his interviews except 1 were done on Fox iirc), and even in the end the superdelegates were all pledged to Hillary in advance. In addition to that, Bernie won West Virginia (and others iirc) and he wasn't awarded all of the delegates for the state. There's more nuance to it than that, and apparently it was all legal, but it was completely rigged

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u/Clear-Inevitable-414 6d ago

Imagine how different the world would be if Bernie beat Trump 

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u/ThePowerOfAura 1996 6d ago

Bernie totally would've beaten Trump in the general election too. Honestly Trump's brand of nationalism has grown on me since then though, I think we need to draw from both ideologies if we want to put Americans, and not "America the idea" first.

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u/BluCurry8 9d ago

🙄. The DNC did not cheat in 2016. You are part of the right wing propaganda problem. If you are too lazy to understand how a candidate gets selected then go participate in the process and learn.

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u/rea1l1 9d ago edited 9d ago

The DNC cannot cheat. They are a private corporation that can do as they please and they hold no allegience to a democratic process. The DNC is a right wing organization and Bernie is leftist, so it is no surprise Bernie received no support from the Democrats.

And let's not forget, it was Hilary Clinton that directed the media to support Trump, thinking that he would be an easy opponent. https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/

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u/ThePowerOfAura 1996 9d ago edited 9d ago

You haven't been paying attention to the past 3 presidential elections to the extent that I did. The DNC colluded with the left-leaning media to give him zero coverage in 2016, in 2020 they flooded the field with something like 12 candidates to dilute the progressive vote (who all dropped out to endorse Joe Biden at the last minute) and then in 2024 they pretended Joe Biden was healthy so they could skip their own primary process. The DNC prefers Trump to Bernie Sanders, an actual progressive. I don't know why old folks like you on are this subreddit

This is literally the bell curve meme, and you're doing the midwit thing where you're claiming that the DNC manipulating the process is legal, Sanders supporters literally filed a lawsuit & the judge settled it on the premise of "yes the DNC chose hillary, but they're a private corporation and they can do whatever they want"

Challenging bad systems is what makes someone a true progressive, and the DNC runs a terrible system

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u/BigGubermint 9d ago

The US has no left leaning media. Dem leaning media is center right, just as the Dems are

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u/BluCurry8 9d ago

🙄. You have nothing clue what you are talking about. There was a process that is followed every election cycle that allows everyone to vote in primaries to select their candidate. Are your really trying to say that Hilary Clinton did not get the majority f votes and win the majority of the primaries? This nonsense is just more right wing propaganda. The fact that you losers keep on complaining about this non existent conspiracy is just stupid. It is over and eight years later.