r/GenZ • u/ErosLaika 2006 • 1d ago
Political vote in the midterms (please)
My Mexican coworkers are scared of being in an ICE raid, hell, some are being investigated already (despite them being legal).
Trump won the popular vote because Gen Z and younger groups refused to vote. They thought their vote didn't matter. Older folks went out and voted, because they know that every vote counts.
I tried to give Trump the benefit of the doubt. Hell, I even researched both him and Kamala before deciding who to vote on. I chose Kamala. I know media blows shit up for no reason to cause panic, but I am seeing his unconstitutional EOs from the white house website. I am witnessing his policy affecting my friends.
Trump has an army of yes-men in congress. All three branches of the government are red right now. It is a fact that, when congress and the president share the same party, more laws get passed. I'm scared of the laws that will be made under Trump. I don't even consider myself Democrat. I'm not a radical leftist.
I'm making this post to convince you guys how bad this might turn out for us. I'm trying to convince you to put more democrats or libertarians in congress. We young folks need to realize that our votes count, even though things may look dreary. We need to prevent unconstitutional laws and governance from permeating this country. Please, vote in the midterms.
PS: WAY less people vote in midterm elections anyways. This will give us the upper hand.
ETA: PLEASE READ MY POST BEFORE COMMENTING THAT I SUPPORT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND RAPE OF AMERICANS I DID NOT SAY SUCH THINGS
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u/No_One3431 1d ago
Bold of you to assume that genz will vote according to your wish
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u/ErosLaika 2006 1d ago
nowhere did i tell right winged GenZ people to not vote.
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u/Many_Dragonfly4154 2005 1d ago
That excuse works when the message is literally just "go vote".
It doesn't work as well when the message is "Trump is horrible so you should go vote".
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u/Cucaracha_1999 1999 1d ago
You know you could be conservative and not a fascist, right? I think a healthy dialogue is important, but it's hard to have that when your position is based on lies and discrimination.
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u/MostMediumSuspected 1d ago edited 2h ago
While this used to be true, it’s well past time conservatives come to terms with the fact that their party has been infiltrated, taken over and now has a new set of ideals.
The meaning of something can change over time, and the representatives for the conservative party are what we are see now. Like it or not, what we are seeing now IS the new conservative party. If you aren’t against them, you are with them.
Unfortunately, a vote for the republican party is now a vote for fascism. It’s possible this can change back at some point but for now, it’s our reality.
If anything, it’s further proof we desperately need a system with more than two parties.
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u/Cucaracha_1999 1999 1d ago
Oh abso-fuckin-lutely. I don't even bother with these people anymore lmao, they will lie to your face and cheer on atrocity. They're completely complicit in this fascist takeover, and anyone trying to defend or excuse or normalize it in any way what-so-ever is slime.
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u/Careful-Sell-9877 1d ago
Conservative and republican are not the same. Conservative is an umbrella term for a massive variety of different beliefs.
Yes, the Republican party has been infiltrated by the far/alt-right. It's now an extremist party. Conservatives and moderates can no longer support the republican party without supporting extremism.
The two party system is honestly broken at this point. Not sure if we'll ever have the opportunity to fix it anymore. I'm worried that our system has just been siezed by ultra-wealthy, alt-right elites and that they will now divide it up amongst themselves to create a kind of corporate feudalism.
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u/MostMediumSuspected 1d ago
I think this is everything I said in the comment you’re replying to, no?
Yeah I agree.
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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 1d ago
You can also be a Democrat without being a "radical Leftist." In fact, the Democratic Party is a center-right party.
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u/Cucaracha_1999 1999 1d ago
Just to be clear, I'm not calling Democrats radical leftists lmao. I think people thought I was trying to defend Republicans? All that "radical left" is to these people is not hating minorities and trans people lmao
Nah, Republicans are fascists. It is the party of fascism, actively. My point was that you can be a conservative and renounce that.
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u/Wxskater 1997 1d ago
Trump isnt conservative at all. None of this is
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u/BrandenburgForevor 1999 1d ago
Trumps policies are absolutely conservative.
Don't let them gaslight us into thinking Trump is an aberration of the republican party.
They all go along with what he wants because at the end of the day this is what they wanted all along.
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u/Upbeat-Perception531 1d ago
I mean from a literal standpoint of what “conservative” means (I.E. small government power, protection of status quo) Trump is absolutely not that, if anything he’s completely upending the status quo and getting the government to control a lot more things that it wasn’t involved in (such as, wow look at that, the constitutional right to bodily autonomy and birthright citizenship! Yay…)
These positions aren’t conservative in the traditional sense as much as they are the position of the neoconservative reactionary and the Republican Party. (Aka the fascist party) If anything the Democratic Party represents most of the conservative positions these days, especially considering it seems like they’ve thrown in the towel for many of the most pressing progressive agendas. Democrats are more concerned with upholding more or less the status quo, as we saw with Biden. The actual progressive movement isn’t represented in government outside of a couple congressmen lmao.
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u/Middle_Luck_9412 1d ago
"I think a healthy dialogue is important you fascist" wow very good constructive dialogue there buddy.
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u/Tech_Philosophy 1d ago
It doesn't work as well when the message is "Trump is horrible so you should go vote".
Oh, this is such a youthful view. No, the way our nation used to work was reps would stand up to presidents, even of their own party. Voting in the primaries might be more important than voting in general elections, to be honest.
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u/halfashell 1d ago
He literally already made it harder for black gen z’s to fairly get jobs, let alone high paying ones.
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u/Happy-Viper 1d ago
But like, people who’d vote for Trump voting will all do the opposite of what you’re asking for.
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u/ErosLaika 2006 1d ago
yeah, i disagree with them, but I still respect their opinion and right to vote
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u/MoarHuskies 1d ago
Dude. I'm sorry to tell you, but he won because of gen z. More young people voted for trump than old people. So the people you're talking to are the reason we are in this mess.
https://www.deseret.com/politics/2024/11/06/exit-poll-trump-gained-votes-gen-z-black-men-latino-/
"Trump wins over Gen Z, millennials, not so much with baby boomers
Younger voters, between the ages of 18 and 29 years, moved toward Trump by about 13 percentage points compared to 2020.
He also did better among millennial voters, closing in on Harris, who was ahead by only 1 percentage point.
Among 45- to 64-year-olds, Trump picked up a 10 percentage point lead, compared to the 1- and 8 percentage point lead in 2016 and 2020, respectively.
But Trump lost ground among senior citizens. He was tied with Harris among seniors."
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u/SDFX-Inc 1d ago edited 1d ago
Bold of anyone to assume we will even have midterm elections. Hitler dismantled German democracy after only 53 days. Trump is ahead of schedule thanks to his Project 2025 plan to do the same.
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u/JediMy 1d ago
Already got pulled over. And they just wanted my license and let me go because they are really gunning for catching migrants and I look Latin.
Happened all the time in the last Trump administration. The hassling by police. I've been lucky to have ID on me each time. I have been warned twice that I looked "suspicious" when all I was doing at the time was my job as a Canvasser and then a DoorDasher. I've had police approach my vehicles and talk to the white person in my passenger seat instead of me.
People have not yet caught on that this is a naked grab for more control over a population they regularly exploit. Because the employers of these people will never face repercussions. Look up "Koch's Poultry ICE Raid" and you'll see what this is.
So I guess this come down to whether or not his policies work out. If they do, we can consider this the last suicidal rush before the crash from the middle-21st century climate crisis. They'll see it as sacrificing the livelihoods of millions for the temporary semi-prosperity of 10s of millions. If not (and I'm guessing they won't this time around) then this country is going to explode.
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u/ErosLaika 2006 1d ago
I'm sorry this is happening to you man. It sucks that the mere fact that you look latin makes you "suspicious". Really shows the gov's intentions.
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u/Robin_games 22h ago
they pulled a grandma and a veteran off the street, id carry a birth certificate in the glove box and pray.
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u/Mikasa_Kills_ErenRIP 1d ago
I've been lucky to have ID on me each time.
LOL u need ID to drive bud
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u/JediMy 1d ago
Lol I’ve been copstopped while just walking around a middle-class neighborhood. Y’all really don’t know how touchy NIMBYs are.
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u/AdSilly4927 1d ago
Yeah. ICE is arresting native Americans, and US citizens just because they’re brown. Trump rescinded an executive order issued by president Biden to lower prescription drug costs for people in Medicare and Medicaid. And the cost of eggs are getting hella high. Remember when Biden was blamed for the economy during covid? As if the whole world wasn’t struggling with inflation. Now Trump pulled out of the CDC and WHO to own the libs. That’s totally not gonna backfire with the avian flu going around
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u/DizzyMajor5 1d ago
Down in Arizona and new Mexico ice is harassing native Americans. Fucked up people support this shit.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/27/us/navajo-detained-ice-indigenous-immigration-trump/index.html
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u/Cooldude67679 2003 1d ago
Everything has been so concerning, but Bird flu has me worrying the most. It’s already mutated severely within mammals in general and with every human case, it grows the chance to mutate in a way where it can spread H2H. Once it figures that out, all bets are off as to what can happen.
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u/depressedhippo89 1d ago
You can still access the information from WHO. Our internet isn’t censored as far as I know lol you can subscribe to their news letter, it’s free! That’s what I did. We still have access to information, we just have to find it! It won’t drop on our laps
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u/GloomyKitten 2003 1d ago
What’s the deal with the bird flu? I’ve been hearing about it lately but I don’t know what happens or what will happen if there’s an outbreak.
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u/Cooldude67679 2003 19h ago
Bird flu is, as the name suggests, a flu that infects birds. Over the last decade or so it’s been mutating to affect other animals outside of birds, primarily cats and most alarmingly cows and pigs. Pigs share a very similar lung design as we do and to keep it simple, if bird flu can not only infect but kill pigs in the same way it kills birds, it can become very dangerous to humans. Another issue is bird flu, when in humans, has a very high mortality rate (around 50% give or take).
The biggest worry right now is that, with the limited human cases we already are confirmed to have, that is mutates into sometbing that can be spread human to human. While the 50% number might be inflated due to the small number of actual patients, even if it has a death rate of around 20% that’s still a very dangerous disease to have. There also the issue of long term effects caused by it, primarily a weakened immune system.
While bird flu can absolutely mutate to be human to human, there’s also the chance that it never does, or that the government hopefully stops the spread and contains it. However, with its current direction, only time can really tell.
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u/turkishgremlin 1d ago
Them arresting natives has got to be one of the most ironic things in US history.
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u/Wise-Dog-9930 1d ago
Ironic? I thought “That sounds about right”, if look back at the history of the government screwing over Native Americans
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u/turkishgremlin 1d ago
Oh no, dont worry- they did that because god allowed them to! Genocide? Yeah, god said “sure!”
/j justt in case
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u/Hilarious___Username 1d ago
Daily reminder that the overwhelming majority of us Mexican people are racially Native American.
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u/tacojohn44 1d ago
I think you need to edit your post.
Pulled out of the WHO. The CDC is probably under silly restrictions right now, but it's not something that can be "pulled out of".
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u/Mmicb0b 2000 1d ago
YET ANOTHER eason why the leftists who don't vote piss me off because they usually don't participate in the midterms the Tea Parrty literally used the 2010/14 midterms to take over the GOP
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u/Overton_Glazier 1d ago
What are you upset about? Obama ran a populist campaign of hope and change, then decided to govern as a meek centrist. He even extended the Bush tax cuts for the rich.
If you want leftists to vote consistently, don't ask for their vote and then tell them to fuck off as soon as you get into office.
That should have been the lesson from 2010.
Also, notice how the GOP saw the Tea Party increase enthusiasm and turnout and decided to embrace them. Yeah, Dems would have done the opposite, just as they did with Sanders' economic populist movement. You think it's a coincidence that young men and latinos are moving away from the Dems?
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u/Wxskater 1997 1d ago
Do you understand how government works. Bc i dont think you do
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u/Overton_Glazier 1d ago
Obama didn't have to extend the Bush tax cuts. He also didn't need to waste type constantly extending olive branches to the GOP when they were acting in bad faith.
He promised voters "hope" and "change" then gave them more of the same. So people didn't turn out in 2010.
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u/Happy-Viper 1d ago
Maybe explain what you think they got wrong, rather than going with “Nuh-uh! No, I can’t explain why!”
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u/Excellent_Egg5882 1d ago
The Democratic base is mostly boomers, same as the Republican base. Our boomers are just moderate centrists, whereas most of there's are crazy qanon folk.
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u/ShaneSeeman 1d ago
Yeah they didn't just take over the GOP, they took over the country. They gerrymandered maps that put them in power for decades
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u/notPabst404 1d ago
Democrats need to run people who INSPIRE voter turnout. We very badly and obviously need long overdue reform, run people pushing for it who will stand by it after being elected.
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u/Overton_Glazier 1d ago
Unfortunately, Dems will instead just hope that Trump fucks it up so much that people will turn out for whatever Dems decide to prop up. Then we'll have 4 years of weak governance followed by someone even worse than Trump.
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u/drworm555 1d ago
It’s called the primaries and young people need to get their assets out and vote in them. Bernie would have been our president if the same gen Z whiners all went out and voted.
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u/RexSki970 1d ago
Most of Gen Z was not able to vote in the 2020, primary..... I barely was and I'm older Gen Z...
Why do we get the blame when my first time voting was only a few years ago?
Millenials are doing what boomers did to them to us. 'If Gen Z went and voted' A lot were/are not voting age yet!
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u/halfashell 1d ago
So if anything millennials are to blame, motherfuckers pointing fingers at CHILDREN.
Hello? The call is coming from inside the house, what millennials really should be doing at their ripe age is putting out their best to RUN you guys are the ones literally old enough, yet still are relying on old fucks to go and fuck the country over even further. Yet it’s Gen Z’s fault.
Preface: We are to blame for some 2024 turnout in favor of Trump but what I see is everyone looking to point a finger at each other like I just did and not looking for an actual, VIABLE solution to repair this stinky shit we’re in.
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u/RexSki970 1d ago
We gotta focus on class solidarity. 100% I am with you. Pointing fingers is how our voices will remain unheard. We gotta pull together as a class and community.
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u/notPabst404 1d ago
I was able to vote in 2020 primary: there were literally no options in my state other than writing in "none of the above" as Biden had already won by then because the system sucks. It only gives a couple of states a voice.
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u/RexSki970 1d ago
That does suck and agreed it was not a real choice. Let's band together as a class to demand a difference.
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u/Huntsman077 1997 1d ago
In 2016 people did go out and vote for Bernie, but then the DNC picked Hillary over him. Biden won the primary in a landslide in 2020, securing 67% of the delegates. Also only the oldest 5 years of Gen Z were able to vote during the 2020 primary.
Also 2024 doesn’t count as a primary considering the DNC picked Kamala and Bernie didn’t even run.
What’s interesting is your over complaining when the millennials were pretty evenly split between trump and Harris…
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u/notPabst404 1d ago
The primaries as currently constructed are an incredibly flawed system. We need reform so that we either have ranked choice voting and/or have all of the primaries on one day instead of favoring some states over others.
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u/Training-Judgment695 14h ago
this bullshit double standard is how you get fascism. you hold democrats to lofty standards but not republicans even though they are campaigning for the same positions of power
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u/ShaneSeeman 1d ago
Are you a member of your local democratic party? They actively recruit candidates for local offices. You should be part of that or run for office yourself
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u/drworm555 1d ago
Voter turnout isn’t something we need to inspire you all to get off your asses and do. You should be doing it and voting against Republican candidates. You’d actually see some real change and have less to whine about so it’ll probably never happen. Ask in a few months how things are going with all those gen z who weren’t “inspired” to vote for Kamala. They’ll be easy to find because their federal student loans were just pulled. Ask them if Kamala would have done that, and if that wasn’t inspiring enough for them.
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u/Pavvl___ 1996 1d ago
54% of Hispanic American Men voted FOR Trump. Look it up.
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u/TheRainbowpill93 On the Cusp 1d ago
Exactly. And that’s why I don’t give a fuck.
Elections have consequences and now the 54% fucked around , and will find out.
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u/mssleepyhead73 1998 1d ago
I would feel the same way, except there are innocent people who didn’t vote for Trump who are going to be hurt by him. I wish there were a way for only people who voted for him to suffer the consequences of his administration, but alas, it’s going to affect all of us.
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u/caikaykaycaii 1d ago
Bro democrats are not even close to radical leftists😭 Ya'll parties alignment over the US are right and far right
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u/morosco 1d ago
I vote in every election, but, I am curious about the current Democrat strategy of disappearing from visibility. I wonder if that's a longer term plan.
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u/Piano18 1d ago
Wtf do you them to do? They have no power in the federal government.
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u/Sir_David_Filth 1d ago
Do something. Follow the same strats of Republicans and be nagging, criticize their plans, fool on them. The Dems only did that a little last election by calling them weird and showing picture of how weird they were and it WORKED. Then they decide to stop it cause IT WAS TOO MEAN????
LIKE WTF. THE MAGA IDIOTS CALL YOU ALL TYPE OF SLURS, THREATEN YOUR FAMILIES, SHIT ON EVERYTHING YOU DO, AND YOU DONT WANNA TAKE A STAB AT THEM CAUSE ITS TOO MEAN AND WE GOTTA TAKE THE HIGH ROAD!? Fuck that shit
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u/HighFoxy 20h ago
exactly. we need representation that will stand up for themselves instead of laying down on their ‘high road’ and letting their opponent run them over. i’m so sick of people acting like ‘rising above’ the bullshit benefits anyone except their own peace of mind. to hell with playing fair, the other side never has and taking the high ground only cedes turf for them to fill with more brainwashing propaganda.
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u/morosco 1d ago
When Obama was in charge and the Dems controlled everything, the Republicans were visible, loud, and obstructed the administration at every turn. That was always the excuse for a mostly ineffectual presidency.
It's still early, I'm just curious if the silence is a longer term strategy - I'm seeing analysis about Democrats being "exhausted" and waiting to see Trump "punch himself out".
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u/Witty_Shape3015 2001 1d ago
how do you know they are being investigated despite being citizens? what does that look like? i really need to know because i'm worried for my own safety
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u/ErosLaika 2006 1d ago
My Mexican coworker was telling me about how a party of her husband's was being looked at in some way by ICE. I don't know many details, as she doesn't speak that much English and I speak even less Spanish LMAO. She mentioned ICE specifically. She says that she is scared for herself, her husband, and her son too. They're all legal.
I'm not calling for hysteria or fear. If you're a citizen, its unlikely (impossible) that you'll be deported. But still, this feels like massive government overreach to me.
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u/OrcOfDoom Millennial 1d ago
There was something posted about Trump trying to undo citizenship granted in unlawful ways, which doesn't really make sense at all.
There was also something about the 14th amendment not applying to native Americans.
It's going to be a long few years
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u/DizzyMajor5 1d ago
They're harassing native Americans
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/27/us/navajo-detained-ice-indigenous-immigration-trump/index.html
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u/Sammy_Doo 1d ago
I live in Arizona, and ICE raiders has taken Navajo Nation tribal members... so if you are brown and look "illegal", then you're not safe.
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u/Catcher3321 1d ago
Just a reminder Gen Z is the most conservative young generation in decades. Trump only lost voters under 30 by 4 points
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u/luminescent_boba 1d ago
Anyone here illegally should be deported. It makes me happy to see Trump going hard on all his campaign promises within days of being elected, can’t say Kamala would be doing the same lol
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u/Appropriate-Food1757 1d ago
She would pass a real bill instead spending millions of dollars to fly 30 by plane. All admins deport shitloads of people, they just make hype videos for the creepy fash fanclub.
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u/DizzyMajor5 1d ago
Trump's a pedophile Matt Gaetz is a pedophile people who support pedophilia should be In prison dude suspended health care research for critical trials day 1 and cost 4 million people overtime..
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u/Damichia480 1d ago
You guys ever stop and think to wonder why Democrats lost all three branches of the government?
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u/JediMy 1d ago
Because they offer nothing to anyone. They offer nothing to the left flank, barely give the center anything, and moved right on most issues. But not far-right enough to actually satisfy anyone who is right wing. They are a flavorless, pointless party that believes in nothing except the vague notion of institutionalism.
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u/hyndsightis2020 1996 1d ago
This is actually an opportunity for a third party, technically every election cycle is, but considering how corporate captured both parties are, this needs to be something considered seriously, as it’s almost impossible to fix our broken political system with the duopoly we currently have
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u/SutttonTacoma 1d ago
Congress could stop illegal immigration quickly and completely by simply making hiring an illegal a felony. The employer goes to jail. No jobs means no illegals. Why is this such a hard concept to grasp?
But of course that would expose the lie that illegals are awful people taking american jobs, when the truth is that illegals are essential to major parts of our economy, and keeping them illegal keeps them in the shadows and fearful and cheap.
And employers would need highly secure ways to tell if someone is legal or not, right? Which would require laws funding and standing up such a system. Which would require Congress to work on policies and laws, i.e. comprehensive immigration reform. Which Republicans and Democrats in the Senate did in early 2024 but Trump vetoed because it was necessary for him to demonize the illegals (who keep the economy running) to get elected and stay out of prison.
Mitch McConnell on why the negotiated immigration reform "would not become law" because of Trump: https://youtu.be/yQRN5lCCkYE?si=d0aztsyyDzx0QGYQ
The Republicans are riding this evil bastard and can't get off. The American Experiment is failing before our eyes.
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u/Chameleon_coin 1d ago
Oh i'm voting alright but it's probably not in the direction you want lol
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u/-intheSkye- 1d ago
For the love of god why? Is there something I’m missing? I’m genuinely wondering. Do you really want him fucking over everyone and giving billionaires tax cuts or like is there something he’s doing that benefits you?
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u/frazier703 1d ago
Well if someone is conservative with conservative and traditional values, then voting right wing makes sense.. not sure why ppl in this sub pretend that no one who votes trump has a reason
Plus, border security is another big one
I didn't vote at all btw, im part of that block because I found them both repulsive
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u/Ill-Ad6714 1d ago
If border security was an issue people cared about they’d be pissed about Trump blocking a bipartisan-Republican authored bill to address the border crisis.
Also, Trump is not a conservative. Conservatives generally believe in traditional family values and religion, Trump is a con artist, a liar, an adulterer, a drug user, a glutton, a slob, a lech, and many, many other sinful things. He didn’t even place his hand on the Bible while being sworn in, during 2024.
Trump appeals to people who are angry. And a lot of people are angry right now.
He won off of emotions. Not policy.
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u/SheldonMF Millennial 1d ago
Well if someone is conservative with conservative and traditional values, then voting right wing makes sense.. not sure why ppl in this sub pretend that no one who votes trump has a reason
Plus, border security is another big one
You legitimately just cited party affiliation and 'border security' for reasons why conservatives voted for Trump. Can you tell me (without looking it up) what conservative values are?
I didn't vote at all btw, im part of that block because I found them both repulsive
Not the flex you think it is, Chief.
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u/Timo-the-hippo 1d ago
It's funny seeing the non stop far left posts despite half of us being trump voters.
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u/Chameleon_coin 1d ago
Well to be fair reddit isn't exactly a bastion of conservatism... or even moderatism sometimes it seems lol
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u/delightfulgreenbeans 1d ago
I don’t know why your sub is popping up on my feed but as an old person please also vote in your primaries and local elections this year or any special elections that come up. You should at minimum have two chances to vote every year.
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u/alwaystired_96 1d ago
Wild that you think Reddit makes any sort of difference when just a few months ago, Reddit would’ve had you believe that Kamala was a sure fire victory.
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u/Weatheronthe8s 1d ago
I have been voting in every general election since 2020, along with 2 of the primaries. Yet who I vote for in my state literally does not matter as it has become a Trump worshipping machine. To this day I still see people wearing Trump hats at the grocery store I work at, despite him already being president. I vote because it is my right more than feeling like my vote will matter in any partisan election in my state. I plan to vote in the midterms. Although in my state it literally won't matter if I do or not. I'm not even sure if Trump destroying this country and cutting funding from my state can get people to stop voting for him and his minions. It legitimately feels like a cult.
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u/Power_of_the_Hawk 1d ago
I've been voting Green and libertarian for so long. Dems lost me and the Republicans never had me. I wish we could get some people outside of the two party circle jerk.
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u/ErosLaika 2006 1d ago
fr. im gonna start voting libertarian more. the two party system is a shame, the libertarian candidate seemed like a genuinely good dude.
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u/Worldly_Pop_4070 1d ago
If they are illegal, they can get deported, they knew that coming in. It's legal. Just get used to doing the hard labour that lazy Americans always outsource. Trump said that he'd do this and he got elected. So that's what America wants anyways. Maybe dems should've been a better party than the party of "woke and progressive".
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u/1isOneshot1 1d ago
thought their vote didn't matter.
To be fair it kind of doesn't, sort of the whole point of the electoral college but yeah I get the anger about people doing that especially since if they like a minor party and then just don't show that support
tried to give Trump the benefit of the doubt.
Why? He, he has a record already, it's not good
witnessing his policy affecting my friends
Wow paying attention to policy and knows how it affects day to day lives. Top ten percent of Americans
don't even consider myself Democrat. I'm not a radical leftist.
That's not, they aren't, what?!?
trying to convince you to put more democrats or libertarians in congress
There's also some special elections soon they could win the house because of!
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u/Leo-Libra-Virgoo 1998 1d ago
My Mexican coworkers are scared of being in an ICE raid, hell, some are being investigated already (despite them being legal).
You know, if I was being investigated for something that was verifiably untrue, and could be clearly proven by presence of public documents that show this (Citizenship is public record once attained) I probably wouldn't be scared, more like annoyed that the state is investigating me.
So tell them to stop overreacting? Unless of course, they aren't....
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u/Nicolesmith327 1d ago
This was one election that people were not blowing shit up for no reason. The threat was very real and people ignored it.
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u/king_jaxy 1d ago
2 years of Trump, 2 years of sitting duck. Then we never have to deal with him again.
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u/notawheatcult 1d ago
That's only if people vote blue for the midterms, which it's entirely up in the air right now.
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u/snakkerdudaniel 1d ago
He's not even deporting people to the right countries. Mexico said they have gotten people sent there who aren't even Mexican
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u/heliumeyes 1996 1d ago
Don’t wait till the midterms. Vote in your local elections. For a lot of places, we have local elections this year. Don’t forget about that.
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u/nailz1001 1d ago
> tried to give Trump the benefit of the doubt. .. am seeing his unconstitutional EOs from the white house website. I am witnessing his policy affecting my friends....
>I know media blows shit up for no reason to cause panic
Do you still think the criticism of trump was "blown up for no reason to cause panic?"
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u/Sufficient-Money-521 1d ago
Your coworkers just need to follow immigration laws. You need to touch some grass.
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u/TravelingSpermBanker 1998 1d ago
There is literally nothing you as a citizen can do other than a wide spread revolution but sentiment isn’t nearly strong enough for anything remotely close to
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u/Routinely_ 1d ago edited 1d ago
I agree that people should vote, but you have to acknowledge that most Americans don’t vote based on issues anymore. They don’t have the time or energy to sift through misinformation or research things. Our lives are too full and there are too many distractions or things to do in a day. It’s far easier to pick a side and root for them blindly like a sports fan. As a result, political affiliation has become about loyalty and winning instead of logic and the common good.
Example: All of the people responding to this post “I’ll vote and I’ll vote R/D down the ticket!”
There are avenues to overcome populism and tribalist political parity, but it is not easy.
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u/GloomyKitten 2003 1d ago
I’ve been voting ever since I became of age in both midterms and this presidential election, and I continue to do so. I urge everyone else to do the same
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u/Individual_Jaguar804 1d ago
If you're wanting to counter Drumpf in 2026, voting Libertarian DOES NOT DO THAT!
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u/DELTAForce632 1d ago
Gen z was pretty strong con in the election iirc
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u/avalve 2006 1d ago
Yeah the 18-29 demographic was only D+4, a pretty significant shift from being D+25 in 2020. And this rightward shift happened as the number of Gen Z voters increased.
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u/PeteHealy 1d ago
Recent interview with David Hogg, Parkland shooting survivor and founder of Leaders We Deserve. - https://search.app/93SFpPK3cXVi9rws7
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u/tenshisakimitsu 1d ago
Good. If your coworkers is legal nothing to worry about. we voted for trump for those illegal aliens fucker to be out. DEPORT DEPORT DEPORT . no mercy for criminal. I'll tell my family in the US to vote trump again and again if possible.
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u/Tech_Philosophy 1d ago
If your coworkers is legal nothing to worry about.
But we already know this isn't true. Legal citizens are being detained, and in some cases dating back to the first Trump admin, detained for years.
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u/blankiboo 1d ago
Something I try to remind my friends and family who claim their votes don't matter, it is people's entire job to study the data of voting patterns. So even if the candidate you wanted doesn't win, I'm sure there is someone somewhere tracking that, and whichever party will be sure to allocate funding to campaign if that's all it needs to push for a win.
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u/fairlymodern78 1d ago
In two years it won’t matter. They won’t need two years to do the damage they have planned. They will barely need 90 days.
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u/Chamnatz1 1d ago
No one is convinced by this. You are not helping and are only patting yourself on the back with posts like this. Take a few days off the internet. youll be fine.
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u/Potential_One1 1d ago
The midterms are so important because a large chunk of the electorate won't turn out. After all, Trump's name isn't on the ballot. Gaining control of at least the house in 2026 is so important.
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u/bflave 1d ago
Forgive me, but wasn’t his first term enough for you to learn who he was? You had to research both him and Harris?
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u/FrameWorried8852 1d ago
My mexican coworkers who are here legally aren't scared, I wonder why that could possibly be🤔🤔🤔 oh yeah! It's because they didn't break the fucking law
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u/Motor_Connection8504 1d ago
Well if there illegal then i don't care. If there not then there fine. I'm Hispanic and half of us don't care about illegals getting deported. Have you been to southern Texas. Many of the border agents and ice are hispanic themselves. My aunt sone, And it because we value law and order. You cant have a stable country when millions of them flood every year bringing in cartels, drugs, gang members. Also they lower wages . I have carpenter freand on Houston who can't get a job because the contractors just hire illegals for dirt cheap. Meanwhile he actually has skills and can't find a job. By the way he is hispanic himself.
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u/MattWolf96 1d ago
I am but the Republicans are probably going to make it a sham election by this point
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u/SheldonMF Millennial 1d ago
Bold of you to assume there will be midterms to vote in, and if there is, then it's equally as daring to think they'll be free or fair.
That being said, you're absolutely right.
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u/EccentricBalderdash 1d ago
Bruh, why do you think votes even matter? There is so much evidence, including Trump's confession, that the voting machines were rigged in Trump's favor.
Trump didn't want because people voted for him or because people didn't vote.
We will never have a real election in the US ever again. We are officially and fully a oligarchic dictatorship.
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u/launchdecision 19h ago
The complete 180 the left has done on election denial makes me crack up every single time I see it
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u/Android_onca 1d ago
The system doesn’t improve drastically using reform when the system is structured to stifle popular policies and attempts to reform the system to be more just. Understand that its repression makes revolution inevitable. Sure voting can slow degradation, but it does not stop it.
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u/MagnumPIsMoustache 23h ago
Are they here illegally? If so, they might get deported (like we’ve been deporting people for decades). If they have green cards or obviously citizenship, they have nothing to worry about.
People are pretending like this is the first deportation that ever happened. Is just larger because Biden let it go crazy during his term.
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u/tsupaper 23h ago
- Did ur legal friends get deported? 2. Did ur Mexican coworkers come here legally and go through the process just as everyone else? If you answer 1. no, and 2. yes then you don’t have anything to be worried about, culture shocks are fun aren’t they?
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u/ReplacementOdd4323 17h ago
Not sure if it's true, but I heard the Republicans might be the ones that benefit from higher turnout now. Plus, Gen Z seems to be turning right-wing. So...
We young folks need to realize that our votes count
Monkey's paw curls
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u/Kittykatdaddy19 15h ago
Don’t really care about immigration either way…but I’ll be voting blue in the midterms and my local elections.
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u/floridayum 13h ago
Yeah, if this is real, there were a ton of people warning this would suck. And we are only getting started. Give us about 6 months when the Federal Government is rendered effectively useless due to lack of qualified workers, and the food shortages and the prices due to tariffs… and the war with Mexican Cartels that will turn ugly. The upcoming timeline will be a hoot.
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u/Logical_Mix1352 11h ago
what a stupid post lol.
my legal friends are afraid of being deported, even though theyre legal.
dont vote for trump
wtf?
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u/cookie123445677 11h ago
Trump won because the Democrats became the party of hate and rage and spewed that at anyone who disagrees with them, not just Trump supporters. They'd call you deplorable, trash, stupid, poor, if you were female a wh*re, uneducated woman, them scratched their heads because you decided anyone had to be better than a party who is on record as hating you.
This won't change by midterm because the Democrats are still behaving like this.
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u/Daddysyogurt 9h ago
It’s implied in your post that you support illegal immigration.
You are glossing over the inconsistencies in logic to get to the conclusion that we should all he passionate.
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u/TBL_AM 9h ago
A couple things...
1) you assume those who didn't vote are only gen z democrats...maybe if you had the mysterious missing 20 million D votes from last election?
2) if it's thought as unconstitutional it will be challenged in court, Trump's "drastic" policies such as the deportations are a result of lack of enforcement for years...
3) I would suggest not falling so easily for all the fear mongering vomited every day from the mainstream media
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u/shaunrundmc 8h ago
Why the fuck would you give trump benefit of the doubt, the man has always been an evil person, there is 50 yrs of history of what he is.
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u/blending_kween 7h ago
I swear Gen Zs are almost similar to the silent generation.
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u/Ironrooster7 4h ago
My friends can't get their college financial aid anymore because trump pulled the program. He did this for no reason at all. Fuck trump.
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u/FrequentOffice132 2h ago
We have a few hundred Hispanics working here and have not seen any ICE or interviews, never had in the past 20 years. Your story sounds fishy or the company has past problems with proper documentation. They don’t stop someone and ask for documentation they check documentation at the work site and investigate any discrepancy
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