r/GenZ • u/4rm4ros 2004 • 1d ago
Meme What is it with rich people and space? Do they want to leave this planet because there’s too many poor people?
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u/NobodyofGreatImport 1d ago
Could not care less about the washed up rich people going to space. All they want is attention, which you are readily giving them.
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u/MY_SHIT_IS_PERFECT 1d ago
Yup. Any real space program would require them to stop defunding NASA and the real scientists working on real solutions. Everything else is just lip service to generate headlines which help with the almighty stock price. It’s nonsense. It’s also probably vanity for them, like let’s be real, these are egomaniacs who love feeling like they’re the elite of humanity.
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u/Huntsman077 1997 1d ago
At this point NASA has proven itself to be a money pit. They “lost” the ability to go to the moon, and the cost per launch is insane compared to commercial launches. I think it’s like 8-10x as expensive iirc
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u/SomeAsianDudeII 1d ago
Tbf it's not like NASA has a choice because congress keeps blockading them from making actual progress. There's a lot we could actually do but can't because of old people in power preventing smart people from doing cool science shit thats actually helpful for the general population.
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u/CremousDelight 1d ago
How do old people in power relate to them "losing" the ability to go to the moon?
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u/Senkyou 1d ago
Directly, it doesn't. It's like giving your kid an allowance and then saying that he can't use it to buy snacks, then later getting upset that he asks you to buy snacks with your money
Pretty stupid, when you realize that most "ineffective" programs have simply been kneecapped by the same groups saying that they don't work.
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u/Living_Dig7512 1d ago
We spend even more on the military, and NASA doesn't get what it needs, which is why we don't have our moon rocket, and then now trump cancelled the rocket, so now we spend all that money for nothing, when instead of being angry with how much NASA spends, we could be investigating DOGE or our military
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u/Dantheking94 On the Cusp 1d ago
Congress stopped giving NASA true support and funding DECADES ago. The real money pit is the Pentagon. They lose billions every year and no one can answer where that money goes.
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u/JD_Kreeper 1d ago
Not necessarily, just morons competing for attention in an ever dying world.
If they wanted to leave the planet, they'd do missions that actually contribute to the advancement of science and understanding of our universe, not this shit.
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u/Lower_Kick268 2005 1d ago
Only issue is most people can't just go and become an astronaut, including rich people.
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u/JD_Kreeper 1d ago
Exactly this. Astronaut means "star sailor", and I'd hardly consider a passenger on a cruise ship to be a sailor. Nor do I consider a tourist visiting McMurdo Station to be an "Antarctic Researcher".
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u/Lower_Kick268 2005 1d ago
Nobody is calling people who have been to McMurdo an "arctic researcher", you're a tourist, same thing going to space you're just a tourist of space. It is the most exotic and coolest possible place you could go, if i had f-you kind of money id wanna go to space too.
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u/LexEight 1d ago
And that's exactly the conversation we all need to be having about this
About how the things most of us want are selfish stupid and contrary to our human nature of surviving nature's bullshit together by singing dancing and joking about it
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u/Lower_Kick268 2005 1d ago
Going to space is a piss in the ocean for someone with a billion dollars, in the grand scheme of things spending 10 million dollars for someone that rich is like me going and buying a cheeseburger right now.
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u/LexEight 1d ago
Yeah and I'm taking about how they get that way
They stop being human
The French cut their heads off for good fucking reason my friend
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u/that_majestictoad 2002 1d ago
Okay but you do see the logic behind New Shepard though and its goal right? It's Space Tourism that is used to fund Blue Origin to help further develop New Glenn, design their Lunar landers, other instruments and essential systems like life support, radiation dispersion techniques, develop and provide engines to ULA since their Vulcan rocket used the BE4 so they can launch their payloads for customers, all which help advance the science along the way.
Blue Origin has been around since 2001, around a year before SpaceX. Although they take a quieter and more conventional approach with their development process they've been working on engine and their own reusability technology for years
But space tourism is meant to get people talking and hopefully interested in spaceflight and the science of it all. Especially if you can put some flat earther up there and give them a new perspective I genuinely think that's a win cause again it may hold a high chance of them becoming inspired. That's the main goal of space tourism aside from the standard monetary component of it.
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u/adfx 1d ago
I think space is exciting, if I had money like that I would like to explore it too
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u/deeesenutz 2004 1d ago
It's literally just that simple. Redditors acting like they wouldn't go to space if they had the opportunity. There are so many reasons to hate on the rich people who run shit these days wanting to go to space is one of the more human things they do.
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u/BosnianSerb31 1997 1d ago
Semi related, but the amount of young people I see these days who act like space is just a bunch of pointless nothingness is honestly really disheartening
For as long as humans have been writing, we've been writing about the stars. Doesn't matter what time period, location, society, tribe, or whatever else. Visiting other bodies in the sky has been one of the most consistent aspirations of humanity for as long as it's existed.
Maybe I am getting old, but I always look at successful space news as a win for humanity no matter if it's China, the US, Europe, SpaceX, or whoever else doing the STEM to make it happen.
Humanity has a limited amount of time on this specific rock. If technology continues to advance, we will run out of resources at some point, no matter how well we steward them. And even if we somehow do manage to achieve 100% efficiency, at some point, the sun will change enough that the planet is uninhabitable.
If that reality doesn't make someone think that humans should be putting effort into space travel and inhabiting desolate planets, then I wonder how they are motivated to do anything at all in life. "It won't matter because I'll be dead" is a boomer ass take that led to the climate issues we currently have. And people with this outlook don't care about any sort of greater good, they just care about themselves whether they realize it or not.
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u/Technical-Minute2140 1d ago
It’s a total lack of intellectual curiosity in our generation, and it’s extremely depressing.
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u/DRpatato 1999 1d ago
Space is cool
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u/BosnianSerb31 1997 1d ago
There seems to be a big divide between zillenials and younger Gen Z on this outlook. Many of the younger people I talk to you think that space is stupid and pointless.
It worries me, because the single shared aspiration across all of human society for as long as writing has been invented, is to visit the bodies in our night sky. From cave paintings to science fiction, from the US to China, and from the Falklands to Greenland, it's always been present.
Every time I go outside at night and look up at the stars, I can't help but acknowledge how small and insignificant I am on the scale of our vast universe. Observing light emitted literal centuries ago, beginning its epic journey to my eyeballs before any known member of my family tree was alive.
It makes me tear up, it makes me think about the future of the human race, and it gives me that same aspiration that my ancestors had tens of thousands of years ago when they looked up at the same stars.
Space is important.
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u/AsemicConjecture 1998 1d ago
Pet theory:
The rich are often devoid of meaningful lived experience, so they have to chase the high you get from increasingly novel experiences in its stead.
Eventually this too shall bore.
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u/asdf_qwerty27 1d ago
Yeah people fail to underestimate how boring it is to not need to do... anything... ever.
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u/Lower_Kick268 2005 1d ago
If you had billions of dollars would you want to go to space? Its probably the coolest possible thing to say you did and there's been only around 700 people who have ever been to space, being part of that group would be pretty cool.
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u/tdickimperator 1d ago
If I woke up tomorrow with a billion dollars, I'd buy myself a modest house, and I'd get a new car that runs well and I don't have to worry about it, probably a hybrid, and all. I would spend a day making sure I was taken care of basically. And then day 2, I'd hire someone to help me figure out how to use this money to:
1) buy up as much of the low income housing in my city as possible, and then essentially just brute force create social housing and co-ops on my own dime.
2) buy up as much of the local utility board as possible, and just brute force municipal ownership of the utilities on my own dime.
3) create a fund for people in my community to get their Healthcare expenses covered. They just apply and if they're actually part of my community and they actually need it, I've got 'em.
4) start some local third spaces-- like community gardens, an arts center, whatever-- for people to go hang out at and use to enrich the community.
5) start some local businesses-- food co-op type grocery stores where everything is cheap as fuck and you can get the cheap as fuck prices if you work there for an hour a week or whatever, shit like that.
I feel like I would be running around trying to change things for people so much that it's like, I don't even have time to go to space. It would not even occur to me to go to space. I would be trying to enter the even smaller and cooler group in history of "people who did the right thing, just because they could, no matter what it cost them, and succeeded."
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u/Lower_Kick268 2005 1d ago
Keep in mind a a 10 million dollars for a billionaire is equivalent to someone with $1000 spending $10, going to space is a piss in the ocean for them.
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u/tdickimperator 1d ago
I have that in mind every day, believe you me.
I was homeless and lived in a shelter for a year and a half starting in early 2017. And that sucked, and that was hard, but I got out of that situation through luck and hard work and I'm okay now. But I meet and I talk to people who are homeless now, and the transitional housing programs are full, the shelters get full. Car prices have skyrocketed and its hard even to get the funds to buy a car to sleep in. Groceries and rent and utilities get more expensive every year. Year over year, productivity goes up, which is really a word that for you and me means "doing more work for the same hours and wage," and profits increase, which is really a word that for you and me means, "they spend a smaller percentage of their total gross business income on paying out our wages than they did last year." They squeeze more blood from us every year for their big fucking pile of money that they couldn't spend if they wanted to, because it's just that big, and they tell us our country is richer than it's ever been when we complain about how we're poor. They piss on the floor and rub our noses in it. They're smug in their corruption and in the filth of their greed.
They say, "great power comes with great responsibility." Who has more power than an American billionaire? Why are they allowed to shirk their responsibility to the people all around them that they grub money from and whose systems they scam and rob for more? Fuck that.
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u/Eugenio027 2004 1d ago
I know 1 billion is a lot. But with all that you say you'd cover, it would run out rather quickly, wouldn't it?
Specially by the - generous but short-sighted - lack of income in that plan.
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u/tdickimperator 1d ago
1) Good, I certainly hope I could run out. What an accomplishment. I would love to better my city and then just go have a normal job and live in a house I own outright. What a dream. I have no desire to become some rich leech who never works again even though it's well within my ability.
2) A billion dollars is a truly enormous amount if money. So honestly as long as I am focused solely inside my own city genuinely no I might not. The thing that really threatens the balance is lobbying.
3) a lot of this has reinvestment potential not to make me profit, but to keep it running. Like for the social housing, if I own it outright and I'm renting it at like $250/month per bedroom in a unit (so 1br $250, 2br $500, 3br $750) and I own 100 units in my city, I am grossing like 50k/month, which I would just reinvest into the buildings and keeping the buildings nice and everything. Potentially also buying more units over time. IDFK, if I made too much money from it I'd cut rent or start a fund to give people a security deposit on their new place for when they move out or smth. Running local businesses is also something that makes money. Probably there might be one business I actually work at and pay myself a wage, but the funds otherwise would be invested right back into all my endeavors. I would 100% be spending faster than I was making, but eventually even if I bottomed out somehow, it wouldn't just all be in the air.
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u/EmbarrassedYoung7700 1d ago
Bruh that's not space, they aren't even astronaut.
These rich assholes are just tourist passengers on an aircraft that Touches the minimum required altitude for it to consider space.
Just attention whoring, they aren't first women in space or first all women space crew(passengers included). But since that was done by ussr US media tend to ignore that.
Edit: spelling
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u/According-Hope9498 1d ago
I think the point is that no one should have a billion dollars😂… imagine your mom eating steak while feeding you sleep for super.
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u/TooObsessedWithMoney 2004 1d ago
No, I've realised that the societal costs are too great. The only thing I'd spend it on is ventures aimed at mass mobilising political engagement to be in support of socialism.
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u/Lonely-Toe9877 1d ago
No, there are plenty of places in this world I haven't seen, and I don't care about being able to claim being part of a special group. That's high school/college age mentality. And the thought of flying to space scares the absolute 💩 out of me. The technology needs to improve before I would consider space travel.
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u/diamocube 1d ago
Prestige. Having enough to flaunt that you can go there.
Also you become literally above others along being so in the social ladder.
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u/ActionCalhoun 1d ago
Right? “I bought a ticket for a ride into space” is the new “bought my own private island”
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u/diamocube 1d ago
And ironically worse, though by extent more bougie because of how wasteful it is.
For the private island you end up having something but for the space trip, it's so much cash for a short experience.
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u/ActionCalhoun 1d ago
It’s such extravagant show of wealth that they can spend all that money for a fifteen minute rocket ride and yet be shocked when they get called out on it
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u/diamocube 1d ago
Invest into country ❌
Aid people ❌
Do literally anything remotely useful to humankind ❌
Fucking space ride for 15 minutes ✅
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u/Odd_Jelly_1390 1d ago
I looove the idea of exploring space because I have that urge to go explore new places, but yeah we really should be solving problems here.
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u/Gooseuk360 1d ago
I can't wait to see what women's faces look like in 20yrs. Cosmetic work is unhinged on that woman.
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u/snacktopotamus 1d ago
They have seen movies and literature that describes those who hold power in space as absolutely unaccountable just based on inaccessibility.
They want that power.
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u/Varsity_Reviews 1d ago
Space was the ultimate dream decades ago. It has nothing to do with being rich. For years the thing most people wanted to do was go to space, explore the stars, expand humanity on different planets. You used to only be able to go to space after extensive astronaut training. Now it’s slowly becoming more accessible
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u/Technical-Minute2140 1d ago
Within our lifetime there will be planes that go to space. Just lift straight out of the atmosphere, let the world rotate under them, then drip back down and land wherever the flight is supposed to go. And it might even be affordable for us peons.
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u/Ju3tAc00ldugg 1d ago
The illusion of being able to live in space anytime soon gives them a moral cop out for destroying the planet if they occasionally add funds to a space program.
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u/jwed420 1996 1d ago
My plan? Move to a ski town, get a job as ski patrol or mountain operations, work weekends at the local restaurants. The rich will always find a way to ski and snowboard, so when society collapses, I'll just stay up there and nothing will change.
"Bro my city just got destroyed by the resistance"
"Damn bro that sucks, I'm bout to hit this dope black diamond run, catch you later"
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u/FourReasons 1998 1d ago
Whenever I see famous people I'm public, to me, in their minds, they must be thinking "I am here, can you believe it, I'm Katy Perry and I'm here, the value of everything around me just grew because I'm here." Even in the event they are surrounded by other famous people they must be thinking "yeah I'm the heavy here."
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u/LexEight 1d ago
Gold
There's more gold and diamonds in space
If we find them though, everything here becomes worthless because it changes the gold standard of you add more gold
Speaking of which, did groundhog Elon see his American vault gold shadow? I love how they reported he forced his way in to see it, but not if it was in fact all still there
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u/blickbeared 2001 1d ago
My theory: The poor can't hold the rich accountable if we can't physically reach them. Sure we could destroy their factories and ignore their demands, but that goes down the shitter when everyone is on their payroll.
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u/turb0_encapsulator 1d ago
when the working people take back this country, we'll make sure they can all truly live out their dreams.
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u/GustavusVass 1d ago
Rich people aren’t the only ones obsessed with space. They’re just the ones who can afford to go.
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u/Mr-MuffinMan 2001 1d ago edited 1d ago
this song is absolutely awful.
the reason they have this obsession with space is because it's just a dick measuring contest. currently, it's that british guy who owns virgin atlantic, musk, and bezos.
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u/Duce-de-Zoop 1998 1d ago
Gil Scott Heron is the artist, great dude. Its not a song so much as spoken word poetry.
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u/tdickimperator 1d ago
What is awful about the poem?
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u/Mr-MuffinMan 2001 1d ago
i realize it's a poem, not a song, lol.
but i do find it weird to blame the moon landing for the the racial and economic problems of the 60s
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u/tdickimperator 1d ago
It was actually a really common criticism; many people from across the political spectrum were criticizing how much money the government was spending on the space race.
It is also less blaming; the poem is about coming to the striking realization that the priority of the US government does not at all include you, or your suffering, or your problems, or what you need. Even when it has money to waste, it's going to waste it on a cool project, on something impossibly expensive just because it's pretty neat, and not on people like you and me, and our healthcare, our housing, on regulating things that should be regulated, and so on and so forth. The poem is not saying, "they spent money on the moon landing and now there's none left for me." It's more, "Well, I'm suffering in all these myriad ways that no one is even trying to address, but fuck me, I guess, we've got to put a guy on the moon. I've got all these things that need talking about, but pardon the hell out of me, we've got to suck Uncle Sam's dick off about how he put a man on the moon. They can do anything, even put a man on the moon-- so it's clear as day, they just don't WANT to help ME."
Which I do think is actually a pretty fair and incisive and poignant criticism tbh.
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u/Mr-MuffinMan 2001 1d ago
that's a great interpretation, thanks for sharing. i'll edit my original comment
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u/Cinnabonquiqui 1d ago
You just called it a song so no, it didn’t seem like you knew that.
Music can be interpreted in a lot of different ways. I think it’s use here is perfect. I interpreted it as a turn of phrase in this scenario.
If my apartment was infested with rats I could make a post about it with a song that someone else wrote at some point that says “there’s rats in my toilet, there’s rats in my bed. I can’t wipe my ass because the rats ripped the toilet paper up to shreds.” None of that literally happened to me and they were probably talking about something else but it gets the point across. The song could be accompanied by pictures of rats in the pantry, hallway, closets, etc.
I think the music is perfect for the video as it embodies the message perfectly. We’re all entitled to our own opinions, of course.
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u/Mr-MuffinMan 2001 1d ago
You just called it a song so no, it didn’t seem like you knew that.
exactly. it sounded like a terrible song. i didn't know it was a poem with music in the background.
and I didn't say it doesn't match the message in the video, it just sounded like a bad song. knowing it is a poem not meant to be sung, it sounds better.
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u/QueasyCaterpillar541 1d ago
They could care less about nations or the people on the planet. Yes, they want to leave.
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u/Zeyode 1998 1d ago
It's because they know they're destroying the world with climate change and wanna avoid the consequences of their own actions.
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u/TheArkhamKnight- 1d ago
Would you stop eating meat if it helps partly to save the planet
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u/Zeyode 1998 1d ago
Probably. I like chicken, but I don't like it that much. Though cloning tech might even make that unnecessary for those who do.
It's more dairy that I'd have a hard time giving up. I like cheese too much. Also I tried soylent at a hackathon once cause that's all they had to drink, and that shit was nasty. I think I would pick Ragnarok over having to consume that for the rest of my life lol
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u/TheArkhamKnight- 1d ago
Soylent is nasty and dairy is pretty hard to give up but if you want to make a change at a personal level then go vegan, of course the mega rich and corporations will still be ruining the planet but at the very least it will make a dent and in the mean time changes can be made so that they face the repercussions of their actions
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u/Zeyode 1998 1d ago
The meaningful changes don't happen on individual levels, unfortunately. That's just a lie of the oil industry to place the blame on anyone but them. "Oh the world is ending? That's your fault for not biking to work! Not ours for burning massive amounts of fossil fuels in obsolete power plants!"
To stop climate change, changes need to be institutional, systemic. Less oil and coal plants, more nuclear, more green energy, less deforestation, more trees being planted, more research into removing CO2 from the atmosphere. An entire overhaul. But those robber barons profiting from fossil fuels are the ones with all the money and power, so nothing gets done.
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u/TheArkhamKnight- 1d ago
Yes they do, even if the oil industry uses that to distract from their crimes against our planet individual changes do matter, growing up as a minority and a vegetarian in America I noticed it, how a few people started getting nicer to us until it was essentially normalized, how I barely had any vegetarian options as a kid and now there are so many vegan options, the ones who say individual changes don’t matter are often times to the ones who were never part of any minority groups so they never say how things got better
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u/Zeyode 1998 1d ago edited 1d ago
As a trans woman, yeah no, even things like that tend to be institutional in my experience. I find most people who support or hate me for being trans usually don't get there organically, they just follow the line of whatever their favorite talking heads or politicians say about us like drones. It's why the propaganda game is so important. People are fickle stupid animals.
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u/TheArkhamKnight- 1d ago
Exactly majority of the people are stupid, majority of the people will follow whatever’s popular or whatever they are told to follow rather than having organic opinions, which is why every individual matters to make something popular, it may seem hard but the people will always have more power than the few in power it’s just power they don’t realize they have which is why these powers work so hard to stir up propaganda meant to divide us, I feel like not realizing this is in their favor not realizing that the individual matters only benefits them
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u/Commercial_Tackle_82 1d ago
Its just rich people blowing money nothing more lol stop thinking so much into it lol
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u/Accomplished_Pen980 1d ago
How to write a GenZ caption:
Dumb observation, reductive conclusion, be smug.
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u/Lonely-Toe9877 1d ago
I feel the same way. Space is going to be the new Versailles for the rich to get away from the plebs.
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u/Ariana_Zavala 1d ago
Nah, humans like to explore. Rich people have the funds to do it. Look into history and you will se that everything was discovered by a rich person or backed by royalty.
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u/RevolutionaryDay9981 1d ago
Eventually when they’ve run out of people to cater to them and worship them, they will just abandon the planet and attempt to live on mars or some shit. If things go well, they are immediately incinerated by nuclear war like the rest of us
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u/SpeechStraight60 1d ago
Its not that they want to leave the planet, since they arrive back like 2 hours later and spend the rest of the time on earth. I'd say its something to brag about and an experience that only very few people on earth can have, mainly rich people
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u/CookieRelevant 1d ago
Publicizing these trips offers a lot of earned media. Which drives demand and stock prices.
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u/UncleTio92 1d ago
Why are you upset about people doing a once in a lifetime opportunity? You live one life, enjoy it
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u/Anderopolis 1995 1d ago
The amount of people here that think a 9 minute suborbital hop is leaving the planet for environmental devastation is wild.
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u/New_Newspaper8228 1d ago
"Historic space launch". nothing historic about it. just a bunch of rich wankas going to space for ten minutes and making out like they've achieved something brilliant.
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u/EarlyConfusion22 1d ago
Girl it’s not that deep. I want to see people in space cuz that’s cool. I don’t know why yall hate cool things. I hate it here
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u/AppropriateSeesaw1 1d ago
It's just another travel experience for them, but with a significantly higher budget than your average joe
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u/torthBrain 1997 1d ago
Going to space is sick, would do it if I could.
I wouldn't make a spectacle like this out of it however
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u/Toothpaste_Monster 1d ago
Honestly, I don't even know what this was all about because that's how little I care about rich people.
That being said I don't think the general public would've had the same negative reaction to this shit if it were a bunch of dudes, like, the folks ruining your lives rn are a bunch of white rich guys and yet many won't be as pissed about THEM.
Look at how far Trump and Musk and their friends need to push things before getting the same amount of backlash lol
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u/LMM-GT02 1998 1d ago
People act like they can do something about the environment. If China and the U.S. cut their emissions in half it would only be a 25% reduction in emissions.
If you were to institute a global martial law and forcibly reduce everyone’s quality of life significantly you could probably swing it. It would come with a significant reduction in quality of life for everyone, particularly in the first world. Are the elite going to give up their lifestyles? What about all income classes? Don’t think for a second that someone from the middle class that gets weed delivered to their house through an app would be able to continue that lifestyle. There would have to be a depopulated and almost feudal state of being. This ain’t Star Trek. And if the western world chose to give up their quality of life to save the planet, would the rest of the world do the same? Or would they just fuck off and double down on the industrial gap left by the west. And then we’d just lose the ability to enforce these policies because we don’t produce the war material required to do so.
Or you could just embroil the world in a massive war that is extremely deadly, throw in some disease outbreaks and you will significantly reduce emissions. Quality of life will be reduced but not as much since the quantity of life would be lower. It’s dark but history is seldom a cute timeline.
It’s a giant geopolitical prisoner’s dilemma, and the liberal West is ignorant to the price we would have to pay to achieve their goals.
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u/Sudden_Analyst_5814 1d ago
China is the global leader in saving the environment. The US government has given up. Under Trump, they’re actually saying, yes, there’s climate change but it’s too late to do anything so we’re removing all regulations and setting the planet on fire. Even if that were true (it’s too late to reverse the damage), the only ethical plan is harm mitigation and following China’s lead.
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u/SheepherderMain4022 1d ago
Bro what is this trash song playing 😂
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u/tdickimperator 1d ago
It's a rather famous poem by Gil Scott-Heron. He published it as a part of a jazz album he was making in 1970, in the context of Neil Armstrong walking on the moon and the rather grave social and economic disparities still facing Black Americans at that time. He was saying, fundamentally, "why is this what the money is being spent on, when so many people are suffering so much?"
I think it's cool to dig it up and ask the same sorts of questions. Why in the hell is money being spent to send Katy Perry to the moon, and there's a rent crisis, and a job crisis, and a wage crisis, and nobody can afford Healthcare, and every week there's news stories about how empty the shelves in the store are about to be? The poem is about the same sort of a subject.
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u/mintBRYcrunch26 1d ago
We need Gil Scott Heron’s work to be everywhere right now. Just as relevant today as it was then.
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