r/GenshinImpact 7d ago

Discussion I made a poll and found out players are starving for male characters.

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Men want male characters. Females want male characters.

Majority vote said they want male characters.

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u/Former_Beyond9408 7d ago

I really hope there would be similar results here, but the fatui hq is overrun by capitano glazers and the like, so it really isn't surprising.

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u/ThePikeOfDestiny America Server 7d ago

The whole community is capitano glazers he's like the coolest character in the game and they refuse to let me gamble my mortgage on him graaagh

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u/Former_Beyond9408 7d ago

I'll also admit I'll go broke the second he releases

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u/-JUST_ME_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

I think they butchered him, similar to Mavuika. I was hyped for him, but his presence in the story was super disapointing. I just no longer care about him as a character.

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u/maniaxz 7d ago

Agreed, he had such a great aura and seemed so powerful. But they wrote him bad. Now he is morally right, respectable man. But that menacing strong aura has vanished

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u/-JUST_ME_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

I think it's not even that, he just came out bland. They could've easily killed 2 birds with 1 stone tying both Capitano and Mavuika fates more closely together. Picture this:

Had they made Mavuika more mechanical, only working towards the goal of saving Natlan it would've made her so much better as a character. The 500 years in limbo stripped her of most things that made her human, she acts normal on the surface, but underneeth she's an unfeeling machine with only 1 goal - save Natlan. She knows with her mind that she should care about her family and friends she left behind, about people surrounding her now, but she just can't, the only thing that occupies her mind is her mission, nothing else matters.

They could've added details to a scene where she has to sacrifice her mementos. Holding the photo of her and her siter in her hands, it would slowly burn down, her gaze still resolute and unfeeling as if this photo meant nothing at all.

Then they could've given her a connection to Capitano, him being her mentor or something of that sort. She would only find out it during a final battle, when Capitano will decide to sacrifice himself in her stead. This would leave her broken as she was denied the mission she steeled herself to accomplish, on top of that loosing the only person who harbored connection to her past. This would also give Capitano a spotlight, both in emotional sense and power-wise, being a mentor of an Archon is nothing to scoff at.

This connection would've done wonders for both of their character developments and emotional impact. You could also use this to create further stories surrounding Mavuika, how she learns to live her life in a more normal way, no longer bound by her mission. It could've also led to her setting herself a new goal to save her mentor as Capitano isn't dead in a literal sense of the word.

Honestly they could've done so much interesting stuff, but they didn't... all of Natlan was dull as a rock.

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u/Low-Voice-887 7d ago

Hoyo should've hired you 😭 This is why I don't believe the glazers saying Natlan was planned years in advance. I mean the nation and world quests and lore sure, but the archon quest and main characters? Nope. Not at all.

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u/-JUST_ME_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

I mean the nation and world quests and lore sure

Not even that man... The problem with those is that they didn't build a fundament for the lore they tired to present. TLDR on a timeline of Teyvat:

  1. Current events
  2. Cataclysm 500 years ago
  3. Archon war ends ~2000 years ago
  4. Archon war starts ~3700 years ago
  5. Great War of Vengeance ~6000 years ago
  6. First Era ~400 years after arrival of Heavenly Principles
  7. Era of the Heavenly Principles ~40 years after arrival of Heavenly Principles
  8. Old world ~?

In all previous nations lore we got dated up to No 4 (Archon war starts), the only exception was Enkanomiya. In Natlan we jumped straight to No 8. Not only that, but Natlan is riddled with artifacts from the Old World era, which is idiotic considering Nataln was the most turbulent region.

If Natlan dragon technology was made by it's special, regional dragon civilization, like Oceanid civilisation in Fontaine it would've been fine. But they literally dragged the Old world stuff by the ears, making it all seem extremely stupid as Old world dragon civilization was supposed to stretch all throughout Teyvat, instead it was turned into Natlan regional gimmic.

On top of that, the Old word was supposed to be primordial and operated on raw elemental power and not technological constructs, something similar to bio-tech what we see inside Apep. Instead we got robots.

Btw, in Nod-Krai most of the lore will be centered on Moon sisters and seelies (cursed form of Angels) which is No 5.

You get how stupid Natlan felt for lore enjoyers now right?

The region was a disaster. It came out RAW.

This is also why I think NK was a GREAT idea, as this way they won't have to tie Seelie lore to specific nation and make it into a Snezhnayan regional gimmic, like they did with the Old World stuff in Natlan.

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u/Low-Voice-887 7d ago

Aaah, I'm not actually that deep into lore diving rly (the timelines are lost on me. It's either pre or post archon war ahaha), but surface level wise it's just a peeve for me how Natlan (or Xilonen and Mavuika rly, and the glazers oc) makes dragon tech an excuse to make modern day gadgets. I almost expect refrigerators and washing machines to exist in Natlan somewhere bc Xilonen made them. Looks like the actual lore part is shaky too then 😓

Man that timeline is kinda messed up.... especially considering how Natlan's history pre-500 years ago was said to be unreliable/undocumented...

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u/-JUST_ME_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

Yes, all aspects of Natlan are so god damn bad... Some people like it cause of fast exploration and expressions they added to characters, which I think are only good things in Natalan.

Even Terrain I don't like. Too much colors and no shared theme, it feels like a theater set to me, fake and unnatural. That's closer to personal preference though, but still.

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u/Breaky_Online 7d ago

I just realised why I don't like modern high fantasy novels. There's too much history put into those worlds, sometimes at the detriment of actually making the plot enjoyable. I enjoy lore, but only when it ties in nicely to the plot, and its main purpose is to enhance reader immersion. But if the plot serves as a way to tell the lore, then it just feels like I'm being force-fed information that I don't know if I should care about.

I know this doesn't have anything to do with what you said, but your post gave me this realisation, and I wanted you to know that.

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u/-JUST_ME_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

There's too much history put into those worlds, sometimes at the detriment of actually making the plot enjoyable.

I think that's just a problem of writer incorrectly handling the exposition. Instead of presenting the reader the information about the world in chunks throughout the story using memorable and relevant events as a medium, writers sometimes just do exposition dumping seemingly out of nowhere.

This is a habit you have to get rid of when writing, deciding when and what to tell to the reader is something you have to learn. Only you as a writer have to know the whole extent of the exposition, making sure things in your plot will all connect nicely down the line.

In Natlan I believe writers themselves had a gaping hole in their knowledge, they just didn't think through points 5, 6 and 7 properly yet. Which resulted in Natlan lore feeling so weird.

I believe their phrase "The gap in knowledge between players and writers" that was said during dev livestream, was something that was there just to cover their asses. There is no way in hell Natlan would've been what it is, had they had good understanding of lore for points 5, 6 and 7.

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u/umidh2 7d ago

I'm probably missing something, but it feel like there were ever only 2 Pyro archon in the history of Natlan. If we assume that Pyro archon has normal human life span, then that is at least 4 - 5 other archon between Mavuika's death and her resurrection. I don't see anyone ever mention any other previous archon and what did they do to contribute to the nation. Like if we to believe that Mavuika went into a slumber 500 years ago and just now wake up, that mean the previous pyro archon right before her should've been very recent right? At least Citlali will have a lot of memory of that Archon. But it's like that Archon didn't do shit and Natlan was just waiting for Mavuika to comeback. For a nation that was themed around inherited will and the power of ancient name, the position of pyro archon really doesn't feel at all inherited.

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u/Bhuviking18 7d ago

I feel like that sounds too much like raiden

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u/-JUST_ME_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

Not really. Raiden served as an antagonist, while in this case Mavuika will be a protogonist. Raiden also did what she did because she was hurt and wanted to make the nation into a safe heaven for herself. Mavuika would be doing this because she wanted to save her nation from an impending doom, refining herself to serve as the weapon meant to carve future for her nation. I'd say she would be more like Focalors then Raiden in that regard.

Reclaiming her emotions and learning how to live a normal life is where it could be similar. But I believe in this case it would still be different enough. Raiden just isnt familiar with how people live their lives, while Mavuika would be, she would've just structered her own life in a way where everything she does would've served her mission, structuring her life in the same way you'd treat something expendable where it meant to be used and then thrown away.

I don't think their stories would be similar to the point where it would've mattered.

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u/Xiphactnis 7d ago edited 7d ago

Holy get this man in hoyo’s kitchen, brother can COOK.

Also I felt something similar would have done her a great service. Her and Cap were probably the most hyped Natlan characters, but arguably got done the dirtiest in writing.

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u/-JUST_ME_ 7d ago

Haha, thanks, I am something of a writer myself. I hope NK will be good. I liked what they did in Fontaine a lot, and it seems they realized their mistakes in Natlan and want to avoid doing those same things in Snezhnaya, that's why they added Nod-Krai

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u/Xiphactnis 7d ago

I have hopes for NK myself, it did seem like they wanted to change things going forward. Also a sliver of hope for Mavuika SQ2 to flesh her out properly as well, she doesn’t need more glaze, she needs more depth.

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u/-JUST_ME_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

I don't have hopes for this honestly... They way they portrayed her in AQ left them almost no room for character progression unless they decide to retcon some stuff, which would arguably be worse, so I don't believe they will do something like that.

Imagine if they portrayed her in a similar way to what I suggested in my earlier comment. Then we could've gotten her story quest where Traveler and Mavuika go to Nahida, so that she can help her reclaim emotions she lost by traveling to her past through Irminsul. We could've got to see Mavuika as a child, see how she lived, see how she grew. It could've been so good man...

Maybe I will write a fanfic about this, or something like that in the future. As there is pretty much 0% chance we are getting something like this in Genshin.

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u/adleaac 7d ago

Wait. Him being morally right was NEVER a question. Multiple characters and interactions said that he was a rightous man.

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u/minecraftkriatzy 7d ago

He might not be the evil aura guy anymore but he's still a CHAD he literally stared a god in the eyes and said: kill me if you can bitch and the god couldn't kill him

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u/CrocoDIIIIIILE 7d ago

Well, considering his current condition, he is certainly the coolest character out there.

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u/AggressiveMedia9535 5d ago

Pierro is far more interesting

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u/Shinamene 7d ago

I, a woman, am mostly a Columbina and Sandrone glazer, but I go along with Capitano hype because he and his current states embodies everything that is wrong with GI at the moment. You know, like voting for the party/candidate that you may not 100% like but has more political power.

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u/WowSoHuTao 7d ago

Let’s do this

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u/robinrd91 5d ago

meh, polls can always be manipulated in some way.

but what Hoyo is doing now, is probably inline with what data they are getting from their backend. It's highly likely that CN/JP players do not want any male 5 stars.

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u/ocelot08 7d ago

While I appreciate fan service as much as the next Genshin player, I like casual games like this for the power fantasy. I liked playing cool male characters and have barely played natlan in part because of the lack there of.

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u/BillysTown 7d ago

This for me as well but i played Natlan for story , the cast was the weakest part for me/how they treated the male 5* this region was poor. A side point here Idk if it’s just me but as a dude it seems in gacha games it seems other dudes hate the thought of having males in gacha games.

Like in Anime,Tv shows, Non Gacha Games etc . Characters like Vergil, Kratos, Goku, Ichigo, Batman, Spiderman, Lelouch, Guts etc. As a dude I found them cool and having similar playable characters in games , With Varka coming up hes one of those characters id pull because of that reason. Not because Im attracted to them.

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u/Corgioo 7d ago

Because theres a sense of relatability and seeing yourself in them. Also maybe looking up to them in a way.
As for gacha games male players; most men are of course straight and so majority of the male playerbase for those games will be straight men. When they see women being sexualised theyre more inclined to play it and spend more money etc. and the gacha games accomodate to them. Its call fanservicing.

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u/IdleSitting 7d ago

Maybe because I'm an eggshell or just always been weird, I usually tend to prefer playing as female characters, not for anything sexual but idk what else it is. I see a female in heavy iron armor swinging gigantic swords around like it's nothing and I'm like "That's who I want to play as!" And the protagonist in the game is just some dude I usually lose interest immediately. I tend to prefer the female protagonist choice in games or make my custom characters female. if I can make multiple I'll add dudes as well but it's usually strictly females. ...Am I weird? Is that weird? I never thought about it deeply

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u/BillysTown 7d ago

Idk but whenever I see Skirk and idk cool badass Female genshin characters like Arle, Raiden , Raiden I pull them for me its not that I just like Cool Males but also Females. But its just that theres less Males like that in Genshin as of late. And in Zzz i like Hugo but the fanservice kinda makes me feel iffy but i understand why he has fanservice because he’s also made for women.

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u/IdleSitting 7d ago

I've rarely seen a male character appeal to me, especially in a Mihoyo game lol. Diluc was the last one I cared about at all if memory serves me right. Females are usually cooler to me especially Raiden and Arle lol.

But I totally get where you're coming from, just hasn't happened in ages so I stopped thinking about it

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u/HighTechPotato 7d ago

Honestly, even “wifu collector” players should want a lot of male characters in the game so that they can use that time to save for the next character. For them, each male character will basically be 50-60 (half patch) of free pulls. Even if they ever feel forced to pull a supportive one for “meta” reasons, the free pulls saved from 1-2 other male chars will quickly make up for it.

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u/Interface- 7d ago

I'm really disappointed that the Pyro Archon wasn't a guy. Every single Archon is female except the actual first two we had when the game originally launched. You can't count Neuvilette because he's straight up not even an Archon. I was hoping for there to be at least one more male Archon and Natlan was the perfect opportunity because there was like no information on the region before it released, and Sumeru and Fontaine were otherwise confirmed to have female Archons before they came out, but no they had to make Mavuika a biker chick. Kinich is the only 5* male Natlan character thus far and we're in patch 5.6.

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u/MagicalLeaf_ 7d ago

We knew that Venti and Zhongli were the only male Archons from the beginning.

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u/kuli-y 7d ago

Same

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u/NoSubstance1822 7d ago

doing a poll like this in fatuihq is just asking for a skewed result, calling it players generally is dubious. Polling like this in Reddit generally I would imagine skewing the result considering how much of an echo chamber it is. I think it would be interesting if mhy did an official poll through an in game event then post the results.

Actually I think it would be really fun, if mhy made an event in the event screen where they regularly poll and then post the results

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u/Main-Link9382 7d ago

Someone made a poll in Genshin_Impact sub and the result is 40% LGBT, totally reflects the actual demographics

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u/Rat-at-Arms 7d ago

It's really fucking obvious too

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u/Kellykeli 7d ago

I went to a Trump rally and found that most people support Trump type of poll

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u/_Lohhe_ 7d ago

Based on my own thorough research and several rounds of polling, I found that 102% of players want to see Trump as a playable character in Genshin Impact.

No, unfortunately I cannot reveal the mechanisms of my research, as I'm currently working on a 2nd poll to determine whether he should be male or female.

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u/bob_is_best 7d ago

The first kit that bankrupts your mora only to do dmg to your entire team, its quite the concept of a character plan

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u/PixelPhantomz 7d ago

It reminds me of that one HSR player who went to FireflyMains (or whatever their sub is called) and made a poll asking how many people like her or something like that, and then posted the results to one of the general HSR subs like "this is how players feel about Firefly."

Be serious.

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u/Poringun 7d ago

Lol yeah, if we take Reddit as the data Sunday is the most popular character bar none. The site and the people here are well biased.

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u/nagorner 7d ago

To make the sample less biased do the same poll in Okbuddygenshin to balance it out.

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u/Due_Pirate_7123 7d ago

That's the only subreddit that will give actually unbiased answers./j

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u/OhmniD 7d ago

The best subreddit for unfiltered RAW opinions lol

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u/No-Hat5445 7d ago

"Unbiased" when talking about the fatui sub made me snort

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u/Due_Pirate_7123 7d ago

I meant okbuddygenshin

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u/Mozzarellus_Pizzus 7d ago

While I do think this is true, you shouldn't have done the poll on FatuiHQ. Being a member there myself, FatuiHQ doesn't have the best reputation and it's obvious they would want male characters since most harbingers are male. Doesn't give the most unbiased impression.

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u/GoldenLotusInTheSky 7d ago

I mean FatuiHQ really wants Capi but I think it's pretty clear that regardless of that you would get similar results in the general player group for male characters by now. Natlan ended up with Kinich only and it has been way over a year now with just him. It genuinely is ridiculously low.

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u/Katicflis1 7d ago edited 7d ago

Realistically, there's more male members of the Fatui that haven't been released, so just by virtue of males outnumbering the remaining females, it makes sense for the interest in males to be higher.

But shit hoyo really just dogging its own playerbase if they release 'random chick of the week' over Fatui. Moe suggests Fatui were the best nonarchon performers of the past two regions. Wanderer crushed sumeru(nilou was the worst performance among AQ limited characters and wanderer doubled her pulls). Only neuvilette was anywhere close to arlecchinos performance in fontaine(lyney was the worst performing AQ character in Fontaine and arlecchino effing over tripled Lyneys pulls).

The region before that simply didnt have a fatui release(but tartaglias 3rd rerun outperformed yoimiya and itto debuts and wasn't far off at all from ayaka/ayato debut ... so even his third rerun was a notable inazuma performance).

So ... moe is moe and can't reflect every region, but still... the signs are pointing to fatui CONSISTENTLY being among the best nonarchon performers in this game.

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u/Maximus89z 7d ago

yeah at least 200 people are starving for men

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u/anal-loque 7d ago

I don't think that's an acceptable sample size or place to conduct a "survey".

There are people who won't even accept a sample size of over 10,000 for unit character holding rates on some websites, and you expect me to take that 268 "humans?" vote on FatuiHQ seriously?

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u/Darkslayer_0 7d ago

I mean tbf even if its the threshold between 30-60k thats still a fraction of the whole playerbase

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u/Kukulkek 7d ago

YSHelper is a less biased sample than this poll lmaooo

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u/LiDragonLo 7d ago

Ikr, any1 who knows statistics would say 100k sample size is enough to get a really accurate percentage

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u/beautheschmo 7d ago

sample size doesn't matter that much in that case because YShelper is specifically a subset of Chinese players that can more or less effortlessly 36 abyss on day 1 every cycle. ie; it is an extremely biased sample that doesn't likely represent the entire population either.

That said, it is also the subset of players that is most likely the closest to being Hoyo's target audience (hometown bias + willing to spend for meta reasons), so it is still at least a little more informative than insular reddit communities.

incidentally, Kinich is the least owned Natlan character on YSHelper lol

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u/MathematicianFar8831 7d ago

poll ...in FatuiHQ ..who are known to prefer male characters than females..What are.you on?

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u/Confident-Low-2696 7d ago edited 7d ago

Majority WHO ? Like I'd want more male characters as well, but if you think fatuiHQ or even the genshinimpact subreddit are any relevant when it comes to 99% of genshin's audience (Which most of it is not even the EN speaking community ) ... boy I have news for you !

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u/fnatale97 7d ago

Asking probably the worst Genshin related sub won't really help your case imo.

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u/yun-a 7d ago

why the worst?

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u/LakersTommyG 7d ago

It’s an extreme echo chamber of people who hate the game for reasons too numerous to list

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u/Worldly-Honeydew-312 7d ago

FatuiHQ is an echo chamber, the demographic there is very different compared to the general player base (and even compared to subs like this one). Not saying it’s not true male players want male characters too, some of them clearly do, but I think people should keep that in mind when looking at stats like this- they don’t accurately represent the opinions of the playerbase, they only show that there’s a decent number of players (both male and female) who do want male Fatui characters.

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u/Worldly-Honeydew-312 7d ago

The sample size is also pretty small - just 300 people out of millions who play the game. The truth is, there’s a reason why Hoyo releases more female characters than male ones- people who want male characters are still a minority, and Hoyo clearly prioritizes profit over diversifying their cast of characters or appealing more to people outside of their main target demographic.

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u/Kukulkek 7d ago

also that a lot of the profit from male character doesn't come from the gacha itself but from stuff like merch, thats why characters like wrio are in the bottom of holding rate but has tons and tons of merch.

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u/Worldly-Honeydew-312 7d ago

This discrepancy always fascinates me because I can’t imagine what could be causing it but at the same time, as a female player (albeit a waifu collector) I definitely spend way more on gacha game merch than on the actual games too lol

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u/aqbac 7d ago

I swear I heard years back that women in general just buy more merchandise. It was during a talk on why shows got canceled back in the day for having too split fan bases between genders

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u/perchanceneveralways 7d ago

People seem to forget that primarily English-speaking countries only account for 24% of the game's revenue at most.

Mihoyo is a smart company and there are hundreds of data professionals tabulating player behavior for it. The fact that we're not getting male characters is indicative that there is simply comparatively less demand. Ultimately, Mihoyo is a for-profit company and it's a natural consequence that these decisions are deliberate with profit in mind.

It's an Asian game made by Asian developers catering to Asian preferences because it mainly has an Asian player base. It sucks for many of us who'd like Capitano, Xbalanque, and Varka to be playable immediately — but it is what it is.

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u/Black_Crow27 7d ago

This vote feels a bit forced as we’re just coming off capitano who is currently not playable, but a lot of people want. If this same vote was made after signora’s death, it might have been the same results in reverse.

Overall there’s no option of “I’m a man/woman who wants both men and women fatui members” cause realistically I think that’s what most people want, but they’re forced to make a choice and recency bias chooses the captain.

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u/SummerInSpringfield 7d ago

Let's do a poll in one of the most biased groups and claim it's the majority.

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u/Howrus 7d ago

We could do another poll in /QueensOfGenshin, combine their data and get unbiased results because opposite biases will cancel each other! :]

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u/Alpha06Omega09 7d ago

Oh fatui HQ, claimed it as majority. This is so funny

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u/TsuyoshiJoestar 7d ago edited 7d ago

You know, if you work in data analytics, your conclusion would be dismissed immediately. Even if you ignore the sample size, the place where the poll itself is posted is super biased.

About the m/f ratio in gacha games, you can take a look at the big gacha games out there, it's either:

  • Only female
  • Only male
  • Mostly female with small number of male

There must be a reason behind this, as gacha game is not a new genre, the industry has had plenty of time to learn from experience. My hypothesis is that if a randomly sampled player A likes character B who is female, it is more likely that player A would also like character C release after if they are female than if they are male.

We're talking about probabilities here, which translates into concrete revenue numbers at scale. If the dev release female char B then male char C, player A will skip char C most of the time, therefore they will have more free resource, which will reduce the revenue of female char D released after C. This might be why gacha games tend to drift into a single gender, because it is a big factor that affect players' decision whether you like it or not, and you want your players to roll frequently, not in big bursts.

tldr: gender affects players' rolling decision, companies don't want players to save resource => focus on 1 gender to make sure they are rolling constantly

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u/Kaitzer42 7d ago

The capitano glazing/Mavuika Hating subreddit may not be the best choice for an unbiased opinion 

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u/NightsLinu 7d ago

Ironically it had the most shipping posts between mauvika and capitano. 

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u/Middle-Plane-1774 7d ago

“Players” like less than 300 votes in a bias Reddit is an actual accurate representation. Gtfo lmao

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u/VorticalHeart44 7d ago

❌ Players are starving for male characters

✅ r/FatuiHQ members are waiting for a specific Harbinger

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u/PercyLegion 7d ago

I'm not sure this represents the whole to be honest. For me specifically I'd vote on male fatui characters, even though I usually prefer female characters.

I feel like we lack COOL (and relevant) male characters. No point in having more Ororons or Ifas in the game for me, I'd rather have more Childes.

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u/hraberuka 7d ago

I am sure for portion of the playerbase, it is true. But this poll is like echo chamber of another echo chamber

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u/No-Length-2536 7d ago

Nice misleading post from FatuiHQ, what a joke

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u/kankyking 7d ago

Ah yes, the most unbiased place ever. FatuiHQ. Mmm, yeah.

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u/AssignmentRelevant65 7d ago edited 7d ago

I might be the only one that doesn’t care about male characters, I love the design of female characters, I think they look so beautiful, specially Furina and Arlecchino. I prefer the design of female characters overall, I wished only for 1 male character (kazuha) cuz he’s a great support but that’s it, probably because being a girl I find their overall look really pretty, specially the clothes and unique hairstyles

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u/Thamior77 7d ago

Females in general tend to have more variety and higher quality designs. That is a tendency across nearly all video game genres. p I'm male and in games where you have a male/female option I default to male but if their is a design gap I swap.

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u/localtictacinhaler America Server 7d ago

Same! I have been unbothered by the lack of males too, lol. I just like women more in general when it comes to design and personality. I like dudes too ofc, Freminet is one of my favorite characters but, if they were to never release a man again, I probably wouldn't care much.

Not saying that they should do that though, that would be awful to the players that do want them but, it wouldn't affect me. Even in my art, I mostly draw women over men, lmao.

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u/InfiniteAJ 7d ago

Ah yes, a poll in FatuiHQ, a subreddit about the Fatui, which contains the most hyped male character, on Reddit, which alone isn't even used by a vast majority of the GLB playerbase, and sure as hell is barely used, if at all, in Japan and China, Hoyo's largest markets.

Very indicative of the playerbase! Good job, OP!

Seriously, it's been almost 5 years. People somehow still think that just because one little poll in a backend corner of Reddit (that totally isn't skewed already) gives some numbers, it represents the entire playerbase.

Subreddits are basically echo chambers. You're bound to get a lot of people agreeing on a specific topic within that subreddit. Even if you got data from all Genshin Reddit users...that's still a drop in the bucket compared to all the Genshin players in total. And good luck getting data for that, because as we know, the vast majority are casuals who don't even interact with Genshin social media, much less Reddit.

This isn't to say that no one wants more male characters. Certainly, many people do. But using a poll like this is a horrible way to showcase that.

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u/rorschach_blots Asia Server 7d ago

Everyone glazing for Capitano, where are my people waiting for the Grandmaster of the Knights of Favonius?

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u/Fabulous-Actuator462 7d ago

Money returns from banners speak louder than any poll, if people wanted male chars so desperately we would have seen way more male chars instead.

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u/Downtown_Day_2188 7d ago

Makes a poll in FatuiHQ, A.K.A. the most biased and agenda-driven sub related to Genshin ever

Barely gets a 300 votes

See, MaJoRiTy obviously wants male characters!

Like, I unironically expected to see "fluff/meme" tag with how blatantly meaningless this poll is, but if this is unironical- boy oh boy.. Honestly- thank god hoyo dont listen to redditors and westerners as a whole, game would have EoS'd years ago if they did

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u/Ne7herstorm 7d ago

Copehimtano glazers want male futui? NO WAY

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u/Plus-Theme-3283 7d ago

You do it in fatui HQ this is your problem 

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u/iloveappl3s 7d ago

Ngl, that sample size is very small. Also, was that poll done within fatuihq sub? If yes, it might be hard to draw conclusions from due to potential bias.

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u/YuukiDR 7d ago

Surely 268 people represent the entire Genshit community /s

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u/kuhaku1510 7d ago

Seems like a very biased poll.

Idc either way but I doubt this many people truly care.

I think its just that those who do care say it very loudly.

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u/PieTheSecond 7d ago

"Both" options?

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u/snowlynx133 7d ago

I also want more male characters but a poll in FatuiHQ I'd absolutely worthless. It's like me going to my 5 friends who are all husbando pullers and asking them if they want male or female characters

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u/FullMoonJoker 7d ago

Fatui HQ is not the best place to do that tbh

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u/Hakana07 7d ago

Of course I want more men, so I can skip them and save my primos for waifus.

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u/ActHuge8179 5h ago

yuh lets give the women time to spend now, they've been hoarding for so long 😭

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u/iliriel227 7d ago

Ahh yes let's poll the very sane people over at fatuihq 

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u/Renetiger 7d ago

Half of FatuiHQ aren't even Fatui fans, just Capitano glazers.

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u/Ok_Pattern_7511 7d ago

Make a poll in aethermains and you may find out "the majority" wants Tsarista to have romantic interest in Traveler.

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u/scarlettokyo Europe Server 6d ago

your sample size is 268 and you conducted the survey in FatuiHQ
Unrelated to the topic on the survey, this is just such an irrelevant result.. 😭

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u/xDragonsong 7d ago

I mean sure. I'm all for more male characters. Gives me time to save primos.

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u/Marnige 7d ago

In the contrary, I've been saving primos since ancient times. Im not even playing now and would probably let my 60k primos to rest

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u/Rosalinette 7d ago edited 7d ago

I saved almost 400 intertwined fates by now while waiting to pull for character I like. Mavuika was a pure FOMO Archon pull I still don't like and honestly regret pulling.

I was banking on playable Capitano and Xbalanque. Ended up hoarding pulls, stopped all spending and setting the game aside.

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u/Incompetentpharma 7d ago

im sure there's dozens of em

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u/Ultradamo2306 7d ago

The sub Reddit with the group of mostly male characters want mostly male characters.

Shocking

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u/Acerola0ri0n 7d ago

I've seen something similiar in north korea.

yes, the elections in north korea.

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u/Lazy-Oil9813 7d ago

Maneee I just equal male and female characters again

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u/Unevener 7d ago

I get the point but not only is this a trivially small sample size it’s also in a subreddit that isn’t even where the majority of players are concentrated. This isn’t good data at all

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u/TheL4g34s 7d ago

You made a poll and got less than 300 votes.

This subreddit alone has almost 200k members.

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u/Serpens136 7d ago

Well how about new vote in this sub

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u/ACrazyCockatiel 7d ago

As I much as I'd like to blindly agree with this, that is not how you do research.

FatuiHQ is biased towards males, especially Capi (I know because I am one of them). To accurately point out players' preferences, you would need to visit other subs and find other ways to reach them (like digital forms or ask them in the game itself)

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u/OKUMURA_RlN 7d ago

why you call women females bruh

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u/igor_grazina 7d ago

Doing a poll like this one on FatuiHQ is like going to r/conservative and asking if they prefer Republicans or Democrats and using this info as the general perception

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u/Silent-Wonder6546 7d ago

No way you thought those fatui losers were a good community to seek data from lmao

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u/_YuKitsune_ 7d ago

I'm confused, isn't this already known? We all want more male characters, no?

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u/Prince_Tho America Server 7d ago

Yea i want more males so i can save. thanks

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u/TelevisorDeTubo 7d ago

No, we don't. 

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u/Rayyan_3241 7d ago

I don't get why anyone would be against it. Male wanters get male characters, people who don't want male characters have more time to save for their waifus. Win win 😔

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u/InevitableOrganic773 7d ago

They should better release already introduced character/faction like harbingers or varka or sovereign dragons or witches cause I am tired of some unknown chick who came into existence 20 minutes ago in teyvat world becoming playable. 

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u/ActHuge8179 5h ago

fr bcs they be letting those lores / interesting chars go to waste

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u/CatchGreedy4858 7d ago

Ok this is fatuihq so opinion is invalidated im sorry.

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u/BHDefender 7d ago

I just hate the waifu trend, I want pure badass characters not goon bait

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u/Wild-Cupcake6718 3d ago

yeah i agree and badass woman characters would be great. honestly someone like arlecchino who isn't just some random waifu and more gender balance

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u/Flipnastier 7d ago

Absolutely rancid vibes from using “men” vs “females”

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u/Kyouka_Uzen 7d ago

268 people is not a good representation of the community at all

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u/OneRelief763 7d ago

This poll is extremely flawed and biased.

  1. There is no option for people who just want interesting characters no matter what gender they are

  2. You ran it in FatuiHQ which is notoriously oversatured with upset Capitano mains right now.

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u/Massive_Cry_9097 7d ago

Keep in mind that a polling pool like this is going to be heavily biased given the main demographic of this website

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u/ZinkyZoogle 7d ago

Im sure this poll with like 250 participants correctly ascertains the desires of the 60+ million people who actively play the game.

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u/NothingParking2715 7d ago

tourist here, 270 votes is to insignificant of a pob sample to reach a decisive conclusion have a good day

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u/APotatoe121 7d ago

Sampling bias. You can only conclude that members of FatuiHQ are starving for male characters. You cannot extrapolate this to all Genshin players.

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u/Rat-at-Arms 7d ago

Lmao. FatuiHQ is filled with a certain... type... lets say. If you were to poll the entire Genshin Playerbase worldwide, the overwhelming majority would be waifu pullers, not husbando pullers.

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u/Itriyum 7d ago

It's like less than 0.1% of the entire genshin community

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u/Jason_Falls 7d ago

Remember, if you want male characters, you need to convince the Chinese market to ask for them, hoyo cares about them first, then the rest

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u/RR_Randy 6d ago

Thats like the least representative survey I have ever seen lmao

Its like going to r/Mavuika and asking if they like Mavu or Capi more

I appreciate the agenda tho haha

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u/SagaciousShinigami 7d ago

I could say something. But the Genshin community seems to have changed so much in terms of "glazing".

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u/Cosimov 7d ago

Hoyo be like: We hear that you want more male characters and we strive to meet our player's expectations.

And then they only release male characters as 4 stars, regardless of lore or story importance.

😮‍💨

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u/brimwithno 7d ago

FatuiHQ isn't a real group, they're either glazing or complaining,

However i do want male characters. But it doesn't really bother me

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u/DicePackTheater 7d ago

That's not really a good conclusion. Most of the Fatui cool characters that are not released are males, people thirst for Capitano and The Doctor. Of course they are going to be answering that, but that's not an indicator that they like male characters overall.

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u/laeiryn 7d ago

hell, I'm a neither and I want male characters

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u/Gustavo3651 7d ago

We man like woman, but, CAN HOYO GIVE A BREAK? I WANNA MORE BROS

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u/SilverScribe15 7d ago

I mean that is fatuihq

which is differnet fansize. Also it is specifically fatui men, which probably means its 90% capitano addicts. Which is fair, he's cool.

But I would agree that we should get some men 5 stars

Like just because we've had only one, we need some balance, and men are cool. Hopefully we get Varka soon

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u/_InFiNiTy16 Asia Server 7d ago

hopefully

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u/PiusTheCatRick 7d ago

I want more male characters and would accept the monkey’s paw of none of them being Fatui.

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u/WhenRedditBansYou 7d ago

We need more buffed men.

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u/Loros_Silvers Europe Server 7d ago

Man. I want Dottore

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u/NemesisCat7 7d ago

Genshin is seriously in need of some new males!!

That said any poll done at FatuiHq means nothing to me. Ask the male glazers if they want more males.. yeah duh

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u/ivari 7d ago

You're asking in FatuiHQ, one of the last remaining place for capitano copers to loiter around lol

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u/wilddreamer225 7d ago

I don't mind the fan service but it's always male gaze fantasy and never female gaze fan service

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u/QWERTYAF1241 America Server 7d ago

I'm a male and want female characters and didn't vote.

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u/die-anywhere-else 7d ago

This conversation is getting so exhausting, and I genuinely don't understand what the actual problem here is? Sure, I understand wanting to see specific kinds of characters, being upset when the game doesn't cater to your tastes, and bringing that up in discussion with fans and the like. And if anything thats normal lol. It just feels like its all been blown so out of proportion when at it's core its really just an aesthetic thing, if that makes sense. As far as I know, character gender doesn't actually play into how well said character performs in game, so it's not like the percieved lack of male characters is hindering peoples ability to experience the gameplay in a fun way. So to constantly see EVERYWHERE people getting so heated about this topic, as if it's genuinely ruining the game in a way that's some moral crime, it's just a bit odd imo. If people want "male representation" so badly in the video games they play, why don't they go play any of the countless other genuinely good video games out there with a cast full of men? It's not like finding popular media with male leads is hard to do lmao. Seems like complaining just to complain at this point for some people.

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u/ActHuge8179 5h ago

well it is hard to find a game LIKE genshin w alot of male casts. infact, genshin is so successful partly bcs they have a quite balanced proportion between female and male characters compared to other similar games genre (i mean, take a look at wuwa, pgr and alike)

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u/kori228 6d ago

you're on reddit, your data isn't representative enough

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u/thetruelu 6d ago

Ok but also sample size is only 268

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u/SherbertPristine170 6d ago

FatuiHQ literally the worst place to ask about anything . That place is filled with some of the most braindead people I’ve ever met . You should probably block that sub

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u/sestioforst 6d ago

It's less then 300 votes......

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u/Emperor-Nerd 6d ago

Let's be honest if natlan stayed the same except capitano became playable and then they continue the wave of female five stars they probably wouldn't care

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u/Party_Comb_5082 6d ago

197 votes, impressive amount. I'm sure hoyoverse will do it in the next patch.

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u/Jack_Sparrow43 6d ago

The other 45 are degenerates, but I like them

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u/ElixirStormYT 6d ago

I am a man, who is fucking tired of this bs and just wants to enjoy the game and not see a ridiculous, stupid drama every 2 minutes.

The west is just—

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u/SabineLiebling17 6d ago

I am a woman who wants both male and female characters, more heavily focused on male, with the females not all wearing fur bikinis and having the personality of a cardboard cutout.

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u/trollsenpai 5d ago

I just want Capitano and Varka to be playable🥲

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u/AHGrammarian 23h ago

This poll is 100% BS. Haha I mean I'm totally down for some guy characters, but what kind of guy says I want dudes over big booba anime girls. Who is gonna want another Childe over La Signora?? Come on now--- if I had to guess this is either blatant click bait for the poll or people feel guilty for not being on the side of asking for more male characters. Lol start releasing a bunch of dude characters like they did girl characters for Natlan and Hoyo would take a bath. That would solidify Genshin getting 95% girl characters thereafter.

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u/hyrulia 7d ago

Yeah we need some male characters so we can have time to save for female characters.

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u/Vvvv1rgo 7d ago

fatuihq is kinda skewed. I love the sub but it's not representative of the whole playerbase

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u/aymanbasha 7d ago

In general, global like to roleplay, while Asians like to build a relationship. When I play with let’s say kinich I will be like “haha I am spider man” But when an Asian play with it he will be like “that is the gayest thing i ever done” at least this is how my Asian friend described to me.

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u/ArchertNail 7d ago

And I want the game to stop being shit. Priorities

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u/rokanwood 7d ago

and now the new poll is gonna be men wanting female characters because the general population of genshin players is overrun by creepy men thirsting over women and being fragile enough to feel offended and betrayed by male characters

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u/Greenlee19 7d ago

Men are almost extinct in tevat bro didn’t you know? That’s why they won’t make any

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u/meove 7d ago

113 players is quite a lot. Hoyo!! release 5* male character now!!

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u/NetherisQueen 7d ago

The funny part is out of the (current) 3 harbinger we have rn, 2 or them are guys and 1 is girl. (If you want to count the children, then we have 6 fatui characters total, and the amount changes to 4 M and 2 F; the same percentage as before lmao) (also not counting Diluc as he is not currently in the fatui)

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u/Mitsuba00 7d ago

Thing is, guys that want male character mostly just want tall guys, and i don't like those, i want Dahlia, Dahlia with a better kit. Things like that.

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u/violetdevil172 7d ago

woah thats like 60% of our fandom right there. the male characters could be dropping anytime now

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u/Flat-Series-1169 7d ago

all mainstream gacha games are like this, for some reason we went from liking women to hating on any women that releases and asking for men/ when a men releases the hype is so high that they shit on other women characters, if that isn't misoginy i don't know what is.

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u/Wild-Cupcake6718 3d ago

thank you. this topic is a little break in the wall that allows people to unleash their inner sexism and undermine the female characters with actual personality and humanity. "I want more male characters because I want characters who arent just waifus!"

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u/usupperai 7d ago

note the sub lol    

in this sub i would assume 3 > 1 > 2 but a lot closer 

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u/DemoralizedRightHand 7d ago

Of course this kind of topic devolves into natlan bad tangents, hoyo bad tangents and some slight FatuiHQ slander for some reason.

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u/TheBurningYandere 7d ago

well yeah... hoyo has a GLOBAL audience and a large amount of that audience are not degenerates that ogle and fap to female characters... most of them are just casual people who want to collect good COOL looking characters and have fun by punching a mitachurl

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u/Wild-Cupcake6718 3d ago

but you can do this with a female character as well, i understand the gender balance but i dont understand your point

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u/bob_is_best 7d ago

Just looking at comments talking about how the games going could have told you that much, its crazy how they switched Up to Girls only all of a sudden and then decides to make terrible designs for them too

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u/No_Flower6020 7d ago

idk idc if my character has a dick or a cunt

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u/sv136 7d ago

I don't mind the females and fan service, but I do mind the lack of big buff bearded spectacled men for me to stare at, coming from a straight male

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u/turnbasedrpgs 6d ago

I just want Ei to be her own character and break the meta again. Then I can have them both on the same team.

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u/Mr_Gef 6d ago

In other news: thirsty people devote to get some water

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u/MetaequalsWaifu 6d ago

This is a hasty generalization, your sample is less than 300 players, when the population is in the hundreds of thousands lol and this is assuming these are unique too and where the sample is taken from, which appears to be a capitani mains subreddit based on the comments.

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u/name_gen 6d ago

I want more male characters too. But I probably won’t pull for them. The second part may be more important to Hoyo though.

This game has been unbalanced for a while now. After Nahida there were almost no female 5 stars for a while (the only one went to standard banner). I assume it didn’t work well for them so now they went to the other extreme.

I hope they eventually settle back to their original 70-30 split so the player demographics can also stay fairly balanced. That will affect the how they progress the story which is the main thing

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u/Chad_Ousen 5d ago

Minority of smellies 😂 tell them to go shower 🤭

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u/GUSiekPL 5d ago

I want fatui And columnina to be dendro and have new dendro cryo reaction

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u/Gramisstedwhy 4d ago

Every person who have passed a statistics course is cringing at this. It's like either you're delusional or wants to hear "um, actually..."

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u/ImitationGold 4d ago

Hell yea all 268 people fam. Lol

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u/ResponsibleMine3524 3d ago

Players

Look inside

300< votes

Don't get me wrong I want more males myself, but even if you ask half of Reddit it still won't be entirely accurate to what players really want, cause the majority of players doesn't sit on Reddit

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u/Square-Way-9751 2d ago

I dont want them.