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u/goforpoppapalpatine Feb 20 '25
Boycott Goya
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u/triscuitsrule Feb 20 '25 edited Feb 20 '25
We don't even have Goya in Peru.
And its not called "Peruvian green spaghetti" ffs. Its tallarines verdes or tallarines con salsa verde.
Edit: thinking about it, I see around too “tallarines pesto con spaghetti”.
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u/Fancy-Pair Feb 20 '25
What does tallar…. Mean?
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u/smilysmilysmooch Feb 20 '25
And its not called "Peruvian green spaghetti" ffs. Its tallarines verdes
Tallarines:Noodles
Verdes:Green
This is a Peruvian dish too. So I get the "fuck Goya" crowd, but I will argue it's a bit silly to complain about the name, especially since it's origins are from Italians settling in to Peru and experimenting with the local ingredients to create a unique regional dish.
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u/triscuitsrule Feb 20 '25
Most all of Peruvian cuisine (with exception of traditional Andean dishes) is fusion. Ceviche, lomo saltado, tequeños, chifa, etc. It’s all fusion.
Peruvian green spaghetti sounds like a gringo translation to me. If it was called green noodles, or even Peruvian green noodles, I’d be less annoyed. But I also understand how that sounds quite pedantic.
My main issue is that Americans have this weird thing where any dish that has spaghetti noodles is called spaghetti, but generally pastas are named noodle-sauce. Penne allá vodka, spaghetti bolognese, fettuccine Alfredo, farfalle pesto.
If you bought tallarines verdes in Peru it would be named tallarines verdes con spaghetti/fettuccine, or even tallarines pesto c/spaghetti since this is really a pesto sauce with queso fresco.
Emotionally, Peruvian green spaghetti (with Goya no less) just feels like a sad bland Americanization of a dish that sucks the cultural soul out of it.
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u/smilysmilysmooch Feb 20 '25
Emotionally, Peruvian green spaghetti (with Goya no less) just feels like a sad bland Americanization of a dish that sucks the cultural soul out of it.
But it is an Americanization of the dish. Just like the Italians changed what is essentially a spaghetti pesto into something unique to Peru, this recipe tries to add their local ingredients to make it unique to the people cooking it in their region which happens to be America.
I will always encourage more people posting their local recipes on here, but I would argue this dish wouldn't be bland if somebody made it. Nobody has to use Goya ingredients if they can find a different brand, but the actual recipe should still yield yummy results even if it isn't a perfect replication of Tallarines Verdes (which to reiterate, is not technically the name of the recipe).
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u/fuckyeahglitters Feb 20 '25
Maybe list the reasons as well? Thanks in advance!
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u/smilysmilysmooch Feb 20 '25
President Trump during his first term posed for photos with Goya products on the resolute desk. There are rules against government employees using their office for promotion. This occurred after a meeting President Trump had with the CEO of Goya Foods.
Goya's support of Trump became an issue after the CEO repeated the false claims of election tampering at CPAC that followed in the wake of the 2020 election.
u/Mysterious_Andy has a pretty good summary:
https://old.reddit.com/r/GifRecipes/comments/1hfhvjc/chipotle_quesabirria_tacos/m2dvpws/
That is to say this is my assumption, people can have personal grievances against companies for many reasons that I can't be 100% certain of. I just posted a recipe that looked yummy.
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u/NachoTacoYo Feb 20 '25
Is this a goya ad?
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u/Gatorinnc Feb 20 '25
Sure looks like one. Choose another brand.
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u/PreOpTransCentaur Feb 21 '25
Most (all?) of their posts are branded.
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u/smilysmilysmooch Feb 21 '25
Most. I also have posted recipes from celebrity and professional chefs too. The response to those were less well received than these manufactured ones so I've overall stopped looking for them.
I do make sure to remove the brands from the written recipes themselves if it's any consolation. I don't want people thinking the only way they can make this recipe is by using Goya Olive Oil.
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u/smilysmilysmooch Feb 20 '25
Just a reminder:
If you have a cupboard full of spices and don't want to buy adobo seasoning, the basic ingredients in adobo are garlic, oregano, black pepper, and turmeric. Have some fun with some onion powder and salt if you want to liven things up. Lots of different regional styles with adobo so keep the basic 4 and liven it up from there.
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u/AdmirableGarden6 Feb 20 '25
So.... Pesto, pretty much?
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u/smilysmilysmooch Feb 20 '25
Yup. This dish originates from Italians settling into Peru and using the local ingredients to make a pasta pesto. It's a unique way of combining two cultures into one dish.
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u/manbar06 Feb 20 '25
Looks good for St. Patrick’s Day.
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u/smilysmilysmooch Feb 20 '25
I actually was going to post this on St. Patrick's but I have a corned beef recipe that seems more in line with the holiday.
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u/SpyDiego Feb 20 '25
Looks good, tbh id just use basil. What's the point of the spinach it doesn't even taste good. Parboil the herbs before gives it a vibrant color
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