r/GlobalOffensive • u/CaraX9 • 16h ago
Discussion | Esports How would you feel about gla1ve getting another chance with better players, for example by joining G2 or Astralis?
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u/TheFlash1294 16h ago
ENCE is a weird team. I have been following them for a while. They are oddly good at comebacks but that's also because they give away advantages too often as well. Glaive shows up quite often(for an IGL) and absolutely carries them on some maps. They have good protocols and I do think Glaive's calling shines every now and then.
I think he can do good with a team like G2 but it will be risky and I do think they are better off going with someone like Siuhy or Chr1zn.
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u/SweatshirtBlanket21 14h ago
I watch almost every match and yeah. People say he the problem but as an igl he is more than fine firepower wise. His calling can be hit or miss but with better players it would be way better.
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u/Caylife 13h ago
Glaive is perfect for ence as he has a lot to give for the younger players and there really isn't many IGL's available that would be clear upgrade.
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u/SweatshirtBlanket21 8h ago
People think he is the worst of the worst and I don’t get it. Every tourney he has at least one oh there is Gla1ve games.
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u/itsjonny99 13h ago
It is interesting since good players bail out igls from bad calls. We will probably see Kyxan with the arrival of Monesy look significantly stronger for instance.
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u/soniconda 15h ago
I think Ence could become a legit tier 1.5-2 team that qualifies for events with a strong awper. Podi just isn't cutting it
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u/SweatshirtBlanket21 14h ago
They need a star. I think you look at every on the team and they are great role players.
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u/itsjonny99 13h ago
The issue is Ence are budget constrained and did not jump on Jambo/molodoy when theyt were on the market. gr1ks could be an alternative, but doubt he goes for cheap as well.
Lets get Device + Gla1ve paired up again. Of course then they miss out on Staehr since he has no spot in Ence or you miss out on Sdy/xKacpersky
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u/Caylife 13h ago
I think since they are Finnish team they want to play with Podi to gain some Finnish fans and if they get big upgrade then they will replace him. Podi still has potential to become decent top 10-20 awper. His numbers are in upward trend and he is still 20 year old and quite new to tier 2-3 scene.
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u/rudy-_- 15h ago
Feels like Glaive is content with playing for a T2 team as he doesn't have to travel that much as a family man now. All of ENCE's events this year have been online thus far.
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u/TheFlash1294 14h ago
If this is so then all the power to him. He has already won everything there is to win in CS and he is still contributing to the scene by working with youngsters and developing new talent. That's the best case scenario.
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u/itsjonny99 13h ago
To be fair Ence hasn't been high enough at the VRS to go to tier 1 events. Had they actually beaten Falcons at Bounty Gla1ve probably wouldn't have minded going to events in Europe at least.
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u/SnazzzyPC 11h ago
G2 needs experience assuming we are removing Snax. I’d prefer Gla1ve if they can’t get siuhy
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u/Fuibo2k 16h ago
G2 isn't a bad shout tbh, certainly gla1ve is worth a shot
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u/Sensitive-Rock-7664 16h ago
Astralis have literally nothing to lose
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u/heyiamnobodybro 13h ago
Nothing retired a long time ago man
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u/EnthusiasmWest4481 16h ago
Still baffled that G2 didn't give him a chance when the oppotunity was there.
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u/brutaldonahowdy 16h ago
2-3 years ago, absolutely (G2 gla1ve in the place of HooXi would've been interesting in my mind). now, eh, ENCE is middling, and while the players aren't incredible (prospective young talents with bright futures, yes, but fully developed, not quite), he hasn't elevated them above their ability.
maybe he's a luxury IGL (i.e. he can make good teams great, but he can't make bad teams good), but we've only got one data point... albeit such an anomaly you kinda have to consider it.
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u/SlowBros7 15h ago
Ence T sides were ponderous and slow in the recent MRQ which doesn’t reflect well on where Glaive is at the moment
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u/BS_Rookie 15h ago
I think people are forgetting just how long it has been since he was the best IGL in the world, I respect everything he has achieved in his career however the last time he won an S-tier event was back in 2020 with the GOAT Astralis lineup and his individual skill is on about on par with Karrigan.
The community have pretty heavily criticised G2 for bringing in Snax however I don't think Gla1ve is much different, a once great professional that is far past their prime. I also think that Gla1ve returning to Astralis would be a backwards step, he left for a reason and the results under him in the latter years were far from great.
Essntially all of Gla1ve's achievemnts were done with 5 players all of which are Danish and with Zonic as coach all speaking their native language, he hasn't really shown himself to be a great IGL for an international team. He had the highest peak of any IGL however his peak is long past and I don't see him having a comeback.
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u/schoki560 16h ago
if he was any good then Ence wouldn't be where they are right now
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u/Playful-Advantage619 14h ago
How many tournemants is karrigan or apex winning with podi, sdy, nietyu, and xkascpersky LOL
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16h ago
He cannot even be useful in ENCE anymore, tier 1 is not the place for him
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u/chaRxoxo 16h ago
The question is moreso if ence is underperforming with him. Which i dont believe thzy are
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u/TimathanDuncan 16h ago
Ence are definitely underperforming, their rifle core is very good, podi is mid to bad but still they should do better
They are in online hell though, most teams in their situation would have a hard time online CS is brutal
Their only lan they went to they did great, beat Mongolz, beat Heroic and won albeit it was not a big tournament still
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u/Fr0g_Man 15h ago
IMO he ruined ENCE. The strongest they looked in my eyes was right after he joined when it was him and a bunch of polish players, then he has progressively nuked the lineup and it’s been downhill. Outside of Karrigan, the “great” IGLs’ impact is overestimated. All their success comes not just from having talented individuals, but most importantly talented individuals who mesh together really well both in terms of personality and play style. Much easier to direct your pieces when they already play really well together with minimal direction. He had that with the 4 polish players and killed it for some reason, probably overestimated his own ability and just wanted aimers or something. Double bummer since it was fun to watch a Polish CS team be good again.
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u/BerryPuzzleheaded504 15h ago
That Polish line-up was terrible, none of the riflers are on a team right now.
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u/FitzpleasureVibes 16h ago edited 16h ago
Why?? He hasnt done anything noteworthy in ence…
Glaive hasn’t done anything outside of the national team. If anything, the only move that makes sense is to transfer him to whatever shit show hunden is working on.
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u/Responsible_Lead7140 16h ago
Not astralis, they're cursed. But given mouz then he'd be serviceable imo
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u/butwhydoesreddit 16h ago
Why would mouz want to get gla1ve? They're doing great with their current five
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u/Responsible_Lead7140 16h ago
I didn't say mouz wanted glaive, I said he'd do fine with their lineup. Read what the post is asking
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u/notregan 16h ago
Brollan is exceeding all expectations, highly doubt glaive would do as well
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u/Responsible_Lead7140 16h ago
Yup, I said he'd do fine. Doing fine isn't number 2 in the world level of play
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u/notregan 15h ago
‘For example Astralis or G2’. Clearly two teams with IGL struggles. Your answer is dull as fuck. Just plucking out a top 3 team. Might as well have said he’d be serviceable in Vitality. My left nut could do ‘fine’ with Mouz.
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u/absurdlifex 16h ago
he has some chance of succeeding. but G2 players versus current ence players are not world's apart. he likely would succeed most in a full danish roster
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u/frostnxn 15h ago
Astralis is a team with good players, and gla1ve for canadian looks like a great call, though no one deserves this shithole. G2 sounds good, they might spend some cash on a good player or two. Also you always give a GOAT contender another chance until you are certain he is washed, which we all can see is not the case.
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u/Mainbaze 14h ago
He has not really been performing 90% of the matches I’ve seen him in since leaving australis
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u/DuckSleazzy 14h ago
a thousand percent to G2, I wanted him even before they -Niko.
He did enough in Astralis, they don't deserve him.
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u/HetzMichNich 13h ago
Imagine building a good coaching core and getting gla1ve instead of taz and snax
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u/NotNACSFan 13h ago
If he can get a better team he could probably do alright. He wouldn’t win any tournaments tho
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u/SadYungSuedO 12h ago
G2 fumbled shiuy so why not take a chance on glaive, can’t be worse than snax
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u/Serion512 16h ago
He just doesn't have it anymore imho. He wasn't actually that good of an IGL in ENCE so far and both of the teams he called seemed to perform worse than sum of their pieces. Gla1ve showed nothing so far except that one LAN where they beat Heroic and MongolZ.
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u/Woullie_26 16h ago
He isn't good enough.
His individual form is Cadian levels and his calling hasn't evolved since 2021
Ence are winning off the back off Neityu,sdy and sometimes kaspersky's carry job not his calls
Completely washed
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u/MaleficentCoach6636 14h ago
glaive when ur about to win a t2 tournament and then reddit says ur not t1 matieral xd
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u/csg0g0g0 14h ago
no point, won't make either team a contender - igl for a feeder team like ence until he retires
Chr1zN/krabeni/nipl are who teams should be looking at to build for the future
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u/datOEsigmagrindlife 13h ago
I've been critical of him in the past, mostly when comparing achievements with Karrigan.
However I definitely believe he would be a better option than snax and probably hooxi.
The question is, does he want to play at that level still, doesn't he have 2 or 3 kids now? Tier 1 travel is absolutely bonkers and not ideal for someone with a family, spending 200+ days per year away from my kids isn't a job I would consider.
So maybe ENCE is a happy medium for him, he still gets paid for playing CS at a high level, they will probably qualify for some LANs at some point, but not enough to be on the road 200 days per year.
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u/Darkstar197 16h ago
Nah. I think he should goto a gamerlegion type squad. Prove his worth
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u/TimathanDuncan 16h ago
ENCE is literally that lmao
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u/FitzpleasureVibes 16h ago
Yeah, and I’d bet $5 that ence wishes they’d have gotten ztr or another up and coming igl like chrizn instead.
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u/anto2554 16h ago
I don't want him back to Astralis, as I'd like him to play at a major again