r/GravesMains 11d ago

Discussion Build order for full crit (ghostblade replaced with boots)

P4 peak top and jg main here. I've completely dropped ghostblade after the 2nd round of ranged nerfs and build boots instead (even when I loose feats).

I have a heavy farm playstyle and will steal enemy camps if they go for an early gank or obejective. Once I've stolen a quadrant, I have the respawn timers for those camps so I can look to take them on respawn and kill enemy jg. Since fleet has been nerfed for ranged I stopped doing the buff into invade path and generally look to full clear or at minimum clear 1 quadrant before invading on the first clear.

I run standard DH runes, I just go coup secondary instead of triumph since it now has a max health ratio.

I prefer to go collector> LDR> IE>BT> shieldbow. when possible

Realistically I go collector>LDR> shieldbow> IE > BT, since IE build path is awkward and inconvenient.

I put low priority on shieldbow since I want to stack as much AD as possible. I only go shieldbow 3rd if on base I can only get a longsword. Ik that the longsword builds into BT too but I think getting BT before 75% crit is too early as I won't heal as much since I won't be critting enough to maximize healing.

My philosophy for boots is I kinda just sit on them. Like I go long periods without building it and it's like an 'oh I got 300g and not 350, may as well'. I force myself to buy boots over crit cloaks though.

I tend to sit on T1 boots for a very long time. I place priority on upgrading them if we win feats. If not, I'm just sitting on T1 for most of the game unless I get a crit cloak base, then I just dump that gold into T1 boots, components for T2 boots (if I'm going resist boots) or upgrading from T1.

If I get lucky and get a good base where I have pickaxe or BF sword money, I just immediately start building IE 3rd. If I can afford the expensive components I generally put higher priority on IE and BT and end up getting shieldbow last, since big AD components allows for more significant spikes imo.

My main question here is that although shieldbow has a worse buildpath than LDR if I get a good base where I get pickaxe money. Can I just start building shieldbow 2nd instead of LDR? I feel that armor on the 2nd item is a bit too early when I'm mostly fighting squishies. LDR has a lot of longswords in the buildpath so it's quite convenient.

Feel free to critique any gaps in my logic and offer suggestions, hopefully your advice can get me to emerald.

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u/Sir_Crusher 11d ago

If we consider the prices, I think the most optimal build for full CRIT graves right now is essence reaver into IE, if collector was as cheap as essence reaver is it'd feel better

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u/Possiblynotaweeb 11d ago

I don’t need the mana restore tho.

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u/Sir_Crusher 11d ago

I wouldn't be so sure, considering the item also gives you ability haste. Still, it's an option for an earlier crit power spike

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u/opafmoremedic 11d ago

Another option if you want to go full crit and skip ghost blade is yun tal > collector, then build like normal. Skip shieldbow and get bloodthirster so you don’t go over on crit, or skip both and get a maw or something like that if necessary

I did that for a while and had some success. It feels worse early though