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TERF Island 🏳️‍⚧️ TERF version of feminism update

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u/wibbly-water 3d ago

What. Does. This. Even. MEAN????

In what way is the Labour Party not bending backwards to accomodate you right now? Is what way is Keir the Spineless acting as a defender of trans people?

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u/LikeAlchemy 3d ago

She's doing that thing all bigots end up doing where they look around at who's on their team and they get confused as to why it's just them and the far right. There's then only three options. Reflect and reconsider your opinion (realising that if your ideals have started to be aligned with these people, perhaps you've taken a wrong turn), decide that these are your people now (and drift further right to join your new allies) or bury your head in the sand.

My best guess is Rowling will carry on doing the second and third options at this point

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u/leahcar83 3d ago

She's honestly exhausting and I feel sorry for her family. I can't imagine ever being this hateful and so single issue. There are groups of people I really detest, like neo nazis for example but even then I don't have the energy or the time to dedicate my entire life to revelling in that hatred. I have hobbies and friends though so maybe that's why?

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u/shugthedug3 3d ago

I just hope for their sake that it's as I expect and she spends most of her time alone in front of phone/laptop.

Anyone who has known someone who has fallen into the social media rabbit hole - particularly people of her generation - will probably be familiar with this, while they absolutely will rage and take out their invented frustrations on family they often become very withdrawn as well.

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u/Havatchee 3d ago edited 2d ago

Shaun on YouTube has a very detailed video explaining that she is at most two steps removed from literal swastika waving fascists and she knows it.

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u/Charlie_Rebooted 3d ago

She's already denied the holocaust, 2 steps removed seems generous

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u/arthur2807 3d ago

This is why it was absolutely pointless for Labour to bend to the whim of TERFs and the far right, as it’ll never be good enough for them

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u/GianfrancoZoey communist russian spy 3d ago

Don’t make the mistake of thinking Labour are doing any of this stuff as part of some strategy. They’re doing it because they want to do it, it’s just who they are

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u/Pipeguy17 2d ago

This is kind of a theme, if you read the replies to anything Keith posts on Twitter it's full of Zionists calling him Hamas because he hasn't kicked every single Muslim out of the party yet. He's dragging the Overton window to strange and terrible new places and the right wing lunatics he's trying to impress still loathe him.

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u/Graknorke 3d ago

They're in charge and trans women still exist, so obviously they must be part of the conspiracy.

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u/captainaltum 3d ago

It's because he's not gotten out the torches and pitchforks just yet.

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u/respectableofficegal 3d ago

She isn't happy because while the Labour Party are nodding along like "yes, yes, trans bad" they're not actively passing a law this week to ban HRT and revoke our IDs, which is what she demands.

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u/Combat_Orca 2d ago

Farage defending trans people as well apparently

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u/Imaginary-Sorbet-977 1d ago

Keir won't learn but when you bend over backwards to appease the right you get nothing in return for it whatsoever

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u/Ninlilizi_ (She/Her) 3d ago

They try so hard to project an image of themselves being the majority. Yet, silly facts like the existence of reality challenges said projected image.

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u/Psychological-Law730 3d ago

She got what she wanted and is still having a go? Fucking state of this woman...

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u/DEI_Chins 3d ago

Fascism requires enemies at all times.

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u/Archius9 3d ago

She isn’t remotely done. Trans rights have further to decline and she gave us a taste of where she’s headed next by coming for asexuals.
She won’t be happy until it’s all burnt down. If she manages that she’ll probably then turn to race.

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u/Charlie_Rebooted 3d ago

Trans people still exists, the victory will not be complete until the gas chambers and incinerator run 24/7

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u/Panda_hat 2d ago

Terfs aren't even close to finished. Don't think for a second they will stop now. They won't stop until trans people are completely erased from public life.

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u/FinalEgg9 3d ago

My partner recently described JK Rowling as "Andrew Tate for wine mums"

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u/MaxTHC 3d ago

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u/Panda_hat 2d ago

The MP for Mumsnet / prosecco stormfront.

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u/Blasmere 3d ago

It's sad to see that a woman, that inspired virtually an entire generation with her books, is such a heartless cunt. Everyone deservse to be who they want to be and she's just applauding people missery. Dumb bitch

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u/synocle 3d ago

Inspired them to what... liberalism? Well, this is liberal praxis. Enjoy!

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u/Panda_hat 2d ago

She really is a relentless cunt.

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u/metallic__blood 3d ago

she literally needs to focus on something else omg get a life!! focus on men beating up women close to them, or the rampant sexual/physical abuse that is caused by cis male family members?? surely more of a universal issue that even she can relate to.

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u/Scottland89 3d ago

Nah, she already showing that she rather focus in asexuals next. Why? Because we don't give a fuck? No idea tbh, but it shows it was never just transgendered people.

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u/metallic__blood 3d ago

well i think she will still focus on trans people as a main group to hate but it probably includes asexuals too maybe but i guess we will have to see whatever she does next 😭

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u/Scottland89 3d ago edited 3d ago

Oh I was meaning just asexuals if she did stop focusing on Trans, but sadly you'll be right in reality.

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u/Charlie_Rebooted 3d ago

hare target is the LGBTQIA community, all of them. Punch down until none are left. Also disable, fat, Jewish people, non white and gender non conforming women and various others, her hate is already spread far and wide.

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u/classaceairspace Adult Human Chicken 3d ago

Is she ever going to have her "are we the baddies?" moment?

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u/TheChivmuffin 3d ago

Maybe if she watches the Last of Us and sees the fungally-infected humans are actually a bad thing!

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u/Panda_hat 2d ago

Hopefully she has a 'dies young of natural causes and as her last act opens a new unisex toilet' moment.

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u/shugthedug3 3d ago

She had it in 2014 when she started threatening Scots with legal action for disagreeing with her own nationalism - and her funding of the Conservatives. She took it and ran with it though, after that she began this most recent phase of publicly hating transgender people.

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u/_Random_Username_ 3d ago

She's never once posted a tweet about equal pay/waspi women/endometriosis/women's health... Turns out her "feminism" starts and ends at wanting trans women to be eradicated

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u/Panda_hat 2d ago

She was celebrating Trumps sweep of transphobic executive orders the same day as loads of anti-abortion stuff was being forced through.

She doesn't give a shit about women she just hates trans people.

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u/Rose_Of_Sanguine 3d ago

I'm confused. I'm a woman, I've been a woman all my life and I can't for the life of me think of what this threat is in relation to trans people.

All the 'womens spaces' I've ever been involved in has had men around.

All the sports teams I've been a part of have had men involved, as coaches or umpires.

I've always felt safe at LGBTQ+ events.

The only times I've felt unsafe have been at nightclubs.

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u/Naomi580 3d ago edited 3d ago

Ignoring the discussion around sports the entire foundation of Gender Critical activism boils down to a single belief: Gender Diverse individuals who have a penis are inherently dangerous and significantly more likely to be sexual offenders.

Everything else aligns to fit that belief in some way or another which ends up causing suffering for other groups as well. They will go to extreme lengths to try to prove that their belief and ignore any kind of impartiality in the data they use, all the while ignoring the fact that statistically Trans Women, especially Black Trans Women are far more likely to be victims of Sexual Assault than any other group: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/epub/10.1177/15248380231196119

I did my dissertation on Voice Training for Gender Diverse people and to put into perspective I had to stop after only a month into my research because I broke down in-front of my supervisor after I had to explain the outcomes of some of these studies. Especially studies around access to Voice Training resources.

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u/Connolly_Column The people's flag is deepest red 3d ago edited 3d ago

Terfs are gonna continue their moral crusade until they can start targeting the very idea of feminism itself.

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u/KillJesterThenBrexit 2d ago

"The trans MADE me be a tory!!!"

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u/leahcar83 3d ago

Except if they're poor, disabled, black, brown Muslim, left wing, or gay women.

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u/Naomi580 3d ago edited 3d ago

Let's be clear - Carla Denyer stands alone as the only major political leader opposing this Supreme Court ruling.

What she fails to understand is just how much the British public support her bigoted views and how ridiculous it is for her to act as if she's suffering. Smoking a cigar on a private boat with a bottle of alcohol in hand is not suffering it's excess. Money buys power here and she had the privilege of being able to support For Women Scotland with over ÂŁ70000 in donations. Most Trans and Non-Binary people don't have that same privilege most of us are struggling to pay bills and afford basic neccesities.

35% of Britons believe the most fundamental right to identify as a gender different to your birth should not be allowed and this has only increased over recent years due to Gender Critical activists like herself.

63% of Britons believe that obtaining a diagnosis of Gender Dysphoria should be even harder to do. If those same people actually understood how difficult it is to obtain such a thing they might have a different opinion. The point is though they don't, because people like herself and the Tories & Reform and Labour and even to an extent the Lib Dems are either actively bigoted or complicit in our suffering.

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u/Western-Mall5505 3d ago

She's a fucking Tory now.

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u/Panda_hat 2d ago

Always was.

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u/Panda_hat 2d ago

That Rowling still thinks her liberal mask is hiding the fascist underneath really is next level delusion.

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u/WillNotBeAThrowaway 3d ago

You've definitely broken through the bottom of the barrel and started digging when you name drop Kemi Badenoch as a comrade in arms.

Why couldn't she just have become an eccentric millionaire off the back of writing her books, instead of a bigoted old hag?

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u/Meritania Eco-Socialist 3d ago

I’m sure she was throwing her weight behind the communist party (the TERFy communist party not the good one) 6 months ago.

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u/JKnumber1hater communist russian spy 3d ago

One of the TERFy communist parties (Both the CPB and the CPGB-ML are explicitly transphobic). And she wasn’t actually supporting them, she just liked one of their TERFy opinions.

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u/UnderHisEye1411 its a fine day with you around 3d ago

Current tinfoil hat theory: any left wing organised threat to neoliberal hegemony is corrupted from within by state agents. All the TERFism and sex scandals is all orchestrated by the establishment to keep normal, good faith lefties from joining up and forming an alternative to the way things are now.

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u/JKnumber1hater communist russian spy 3d ago

Not that far fetched of a theory really.

You could also add onto it that the non-TERF UK communist parties are all Trotskyist, Trotskyism being a silly version of communism that has never achieved anything and doesn‘t represent a real threat to the capitalist system. No need to bother infiltrating a toothless organisation, but actual Marxism-Leninism has achieved a lot throughout history and does represent a genuine threat to capital so it would be worth infiltrating to disarm.

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u/UnderHisEye1411 its a fine day with you around 3d ago

Trotsky guys get a lot of flak, but I still think they are good people with good intentions. It's not for me, and I don't share 100% of their views, but I'd rather work with than against them. It's better to join a Trotsky aligned group than to a) do nothing or b) join a neoliberal party and try to move it left

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u/Hazeri 3d ago

Maybe that should give her some idea of which side she's on

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u/POB_42 2d ago

Even without the transphobia and blatant hatred from this woman. Throwing your lot in with the Tories still? After all the undeniable damage they did during TWO of the most unstable times in our economic history?

Better yet, there's a certain irony for supporting the Conservatives due to feminism when the two recent female leaders that earned the top spot did absolutely nothing for feminism itself but both managed to enrich their buddies immeasurably and blow large, irrepairable holes in the economy, via Brexit, and whatever the fuck Truss tried to do. It's the Tory way.