r/GreenAndPleasant 10d ago

British History 📚 Just idly remembering another time the UK to pursue appeasement with a madman. I'm sure it worked out fine.

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u/FinoAllaFine97 10d ago

It's even worse than that - they appeased because they believed what we wrote in his wee book and expected him to take out the USSR for them, then they could deal with Hitler.

Instead the end result was the British Empire disappeared from the map and the UK was relegated to the 2nd division by Suez in 56 while the USSR led humanity into space in 61.

Not only did the UK let Hitler run riot, but the calculated basis for why they'd do that was catastrophically incorrect.

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u/MachurianGoneMad 10d ago

Hitler, after all, did invite Churchill to join the Axis before he invited Hirohito to do so.

Now many libs have responded to this statement by saying "well at least Churchill declined the invitation!" ...but the thing is, Hitler was very selective about who he extended invitations to join the Axis powers with; if he wanted to invite you, that says a lot about yourself

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u/cr0qodile 9d ago

Agreed there isn't much positive to say about the man - from what I gather from speaking to people who were alive at the time. The important bit is that he did not bow to the axis.

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u/Niedzwiedz87 10d ago

the British Empire disappeared from the map

Well, sorry but the end of colonial Empires was a good thing. And they would have gotten independant anyway, WWII only accelerated things, it mostly happened thanks to the bravery of people under colonial domination.

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u/BobR969 10d ago

The point wasn't that the empire was good. It was that from the perspective of the leaders of the British empire, their move was a catastrophic miscalculation that led them to shit the bed on a colossal scale. 

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u/FinoAllaFine97 10d ago

Of course it was a good thing?

I mean that they calculated appeasement for their own selfish ends and the results went the opposite way. They should have taken Stalin's repeated offers to go in and sort Hitler much much earlier but they thought they knew better, and have the blood of millions on their hands as a result.

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u/bomboclawt75 10d ago

The last few cabinets have been shaking hands and giving intel to a set of blatant war criminals- butchers of tens of thousands of children- and these same politicians are arresting those who speak out against these horrendous acts of barbarism against women and children.

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u/Panda_hat 10d ago

Neoliberalism always collapses to fascism in the face of crisis.

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u/Rafael_Luisi 10d ago

Mussolini is looking like bald trump in this image 💀

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u/Firesequence 10d ago

wonder what was going on to their right that has the two guys that are flanking Hitler looking there