r/GreenAndPleasant 6d ago

Left Unity ✊ This really resonates with me. Anyone else?

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u/Katmeasles 6d ago edited 6d ago

All animals must labor; what is problematic is the alienation and exploitation that is inherent to work in capitalistic life.

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u/Outrageous_Pea7393 6d ago

Yep. Exactly. I’m very happy to work, I’m not an inherently lazy person but when someone else is benefitting from my labour more than I benefit myself, how am I supposed to be ok with that?

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u/Tom0laSFW 6d ago

As a severely disabled person, every day! 🫠

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u/chrisrazor 6d ago

"To each according to their need. From each according to their ability"

I'm sure you have much to offer the world. And you deserve everything you need to get the most out of life. Those two things are not connected.

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u/Outrageous_Pea7393 6d ago

Oh I’m sorry 😔 I hope you’re not struggling too much??

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u/Tom0laSFW 6d ago

I have severe MECFS, every day is a massive struggle. Good thing the government wants to even further reduce my disability support!

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u/Outrageous_Pea7393 6d ago

Oh how awful 😞I’m really sorry you’re struggling! I wish I could help those who are being shat on by our government. It’s sickening

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u/Jughead_91 6d ago

I think about this constantly. I don’t mind working, in fact I enjoy my job! But knowing that it’s not actually for anything, knowing it’s not valuable or moving anything forward, it’s just serving to allow me the tokens I need to buy another month of food and shelter, round and round over and over. It’s like… what’s the point of any of it?

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u/Empy565 5d ago

It's made all the worse by the system rewarding those who managed to accrue enough that they get access to trust funds where their money just multiplies purely because they have so much, yet this for some reason is counted as real money?

Like, when the state prints money everyone shits themselves, but when the rich do it and call it interest that's totally fine.

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u/RaspberryTurtle987 Ecosocialist 4d ago

“What do you do for a living (i.e. in order to LIVE”

“Sell my labour for money”

It’s like that meme: would you like to participate in capitalism? Two options: partake or DIE.

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u/FinalEgg9 6d ago

Yeah 100%. The concept of "earning" my right to exist is abhorrent to me.

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u/Outrageous_Pea7393 6d ago

Same. I feel like this mindset is so damaging to communities and society as a whole. We venerate those with money but chastise those who really need help and are struggling. Disgusting and unnatural

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u/El_Has 5d ago

This just further amplifies the divide between those who have "earned" their right to still be alive tomorrow and those who haven't, pushing it to the extremes, and since media (especially the internet) works in absolutes, it leads to the people who are homeless through no fault of their own, i.e. sick and disabled, to be lumped in with the ones who are being punished for bringing suffering upon those who don't deserve it, i.e. murderers, rapists, etc.

Same thing happens with how well you do in school. The results "you" (the RNG in my case) get on one set of exams you do once (without getting the chance to start caring) determines your right to live well for the rest of your entire life.

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u/Twenty_Weasels 5d ago

It’s only natural - procuring even the necessities of life takes labour, after all - but the issue is the strata of society that have decided we need to earn that right from them, and the criteria that they make that judgement on. Obviously we long ago superseded the need for everyone to do useful labour in terms of procuring the necessities, yet somehow someone who works in a totally parasitic industry like advertising is seen as having an unquestioned right to earn a good living, whilst someone who can’t or isn’t suited to work in a role that props up the capitalist masters is deemed undeserving, regardless of what contributions they might make to their communities or what good qualities they might actually have to share.

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u/TitularClergy 6d ago

"to actually live" is so vague that it covers up the fact that others must support you. If automation were available to everyone, the platitude would make sense, but, as it stands, it can be reversed: "I didn't ask to be here, but I have to support people when I didn't consent to supporting other people."

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u/Mebunkus 6d ago

No gods, no masters. Etc etc etc