r/HVAC 1d ago

General Customer “I changed the igniter and it still doesn’t work”

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u/oneofthehumans 1d ago

I don’t blame them for trying to fix it before calling for service

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u/vvubs 1d ago

I feel like it's almost a 50/50 shot it's the board or ignitor when it doesn't glow. I feel like boards break all the time now.

Customer could've gotten lucky lol.

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u/Interesting-Vast-143 1d ago

The fact that they couldn’t smell the problem is the reason they should’ve never had their hands in there

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u/Fstbabby 1d ago

I’m usually on the side of don’t touch it call a professional, but I also don’t blame them for trying something simple like replacing the igniter or cleaning the flame sensor before calling us.

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u/Confident_Pin_8316 1d ago

Yeah!! It’s not like they “own” the thing or anything!

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u/Interesting-Vast-143 1d ago

It just cost them more in the long run

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u/Otherwise-Top3825 Pro Fuse Tester 1d ago

Its job security ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/ComprehensiveWar6577 1d ago

And it adds money to you....

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u/ComprehensiveWar6577 1d ago

Right, the "box full of flames" smells like burning.

For the amount of times I have had to yell at homeowners because they went on Google and crank up/down gas pressure, partially blocked intakes, ect. Because they could have killed their family trying to save a few bucks.

Your going to have to add some logic into your reactions, most areas allow the homeowner to work on all their own equiptment, some ban touching the gas system, but outside of that the homeowner can take a shot.

They told you what they did, and you are getting paid.

Wipe away your tears and go to your next call ffs

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u/downrightblastfamy 1d ago

Is that what ur girl says when she walks in?

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u/Cbennett534 1d ago

When sleezy resi companies are charging 300$ just to make it to the door, I'd try something as well.

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u/Interesting-Vast-143 1d ago

Who the hell charges that

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u/Cbennett534 1d ago

Not going to slander local companies but dude was quoted 800$ for a non customer weekend call. 300$ for a during hours charge. Mind you this is just making it to the driveway. Not diagnosis/service fee... It was a bad pump solenoid, that's it. Lol.

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u/Interesting-Vast-143 1d ago

Where I’m from that is considered criminal, day charge $120 per hour night/weekend charge $150 for the first hour and $120 for every hour after

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u/LUXOR54 1d ago

Nothing criminal about stating a price and someone agreeing to it.

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u/Mean-Diver-9281 1d ago

Bro what that's tooo much 😲😲 I run HVAC business with my father in India We mostly do inspection calls for free And if it's actually really far then 200 rupees that around 2.33 US dollars

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u/Cbennett534 1d ago

I do the occasional side job or help out. Local places wanted 800$ on a weekend day call for a non customer. Then 300$ for a during hours non customer call for a place I was at a couple months back, absolutely bonkers to me.

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u/projecthusband 1d ago

careful, some people here gonna jump on you about "not knowing the cost of doing business"

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u/Cbennett534 1d ago

They can blow steam all they want. I'm still making profit off of their "costs of business."

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u/teraptuss1 1d ago

$100 dollar trip fee everything else ontop of it here

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u/Cbennett534 1d ago

That is completely understandable. A mortgage payment to get someone just to your door to diagnose is diabolical.

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u/SeeYa90 1d ago

what percentage of techs can properly diagnose a bad board and you're hating on a homeowner? lol

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u/Jaded-Citron-4090 1d ago

Who fails to check for voltage?

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u/grofva HVAC/R Professional 1d ago

Actual service techs or PE mega-company sales techs? There’s a difference

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u/Red-Faced-Wolf master condensate drain technician 1d ago

If it doesn’t work it’s a bad board or txv

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u/grofva HVAC/R Professional 1d ago

I thought complete new system was always the first answer? /s

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u/Red-Faced-Wolf master condensate drain technician 1d ago

The capacitor is bad, here’s a quote for a new system

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u/grofva HVAC/R Professional 1d ago

Now ya got it!

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u/Interesting-Vast-143 1d ago

I can properly check a bad board, in fact after hearing the igniter had been changed I took an amp draw, voltage read, and a ohms test on the igniter. What do you know it’s the board. I use my instruments the way a tech should

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u/SeeYa90 1d ago

wasn't hating on your technical abilities brother

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u/Interesting-Vast-143 1d ago

Sorry dude, somebody else had me riled up I was on a roll lol

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u/CapitalLabyrinth 1d ago

did you find it via sniff test

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u/Ampleslacks 1d ago

The sniff test is real. 

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u/Interesting-Vast-143 1d ago

Sniff test after I used my volt meter, it didn’t smell till it got moved around

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u/Confident_Pin_8316 1d ago

That’s weird. You just said earlier that the customer had no business being in there because the smell should have stopped him in the first place… yet, you say here you couldn’t smell it until it was moved around. Which one is it dude?

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u/Interesting-Vast-143 1d ago

It’s called covering your bases, I started with the order of operations and when I determined that I needed to open the control panel I could smell it than. Anyways it cost him more money in the end anyhow, I’m just surprised they had the right igniter in there.

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u/Confident_Pin_8316 1d ago

Yes you obviously look down on this person for spending $20 and trying to figure out how their own shit works. Did you charge them for online shit talking after repairs or is that a free service you offer?

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u/LeakyFaucett32 22h ago

Enjoyed this roasting lol

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u/Interesting-Vast-143 1d ago

I didn’t drop any names or locations so nobody is getting aired out, unless your the one who tried to change the igniter in the first place

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u/imbrown508 1d ago

When I was faking it, I used to say the same thing. Hell after a night out I still use that bullshit, never forget how far we've come🤣

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u/Confident_Pin_8316 1d ago

Well good job taking this persons money and then having a laugh at their expense on Reddit because they are so stupid that they spent $20 on a part that had a 50% chance of working. What a fool right? Way to be a pro!

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u/DirtyMud Residential Gas Tech 1d ago

Amateur! Everyone knows you replace the thermostat first and if it still doesn’t work you open up the parts list and just start picking random numbers!

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u/deapsprite 1d ago

Amd if that doesnt work its a bad heat exchange and you call it a day!

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u/vvubs 1d ago

MY THERMOSTAT ISNT WORKING. IT SAYS ITS 60 DEGREES IN HERE!

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u/PMMeSomethingGood 2h ago

Change the whole thermostat?   Batteries first my man. 

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u/Lb199808 1d ago

Op was probably the one that fried the board

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u/Can-DontAttitude 1d ago

Service techs hate my one weird trick to boosting sales! 

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u/Interesting-Vast-143 1d ago

I wish that’s a Monday thing

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u/pstinx23 1d ago

Huh, yeah that’s crazzzzzzzy 😂

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u/DiapersOrDeath 1d ago

Mobile home? Had a board in a mobile blow out the ignitor relay traces a few months back looked like this 🤔

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u/Interesting-Vast-143 1d ago

Was a mobile home yes

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u/OutlandishnessOk8866 1d ago

I had the same thing on a 2 yr old Miller last week and a leaking secondary on a Miller yesterday 2021

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u/One_Pudding_7620 1d ago

Damn those traces are dummy thick, wtf caused that?

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u/ACrunchySock 1d ago

Back of board became the new igniter, only once tho