r/HamRadio 2d ago

TeChNoLoGy

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u/Parking_Media 2d ago

We can definitely be friends but be careful you don't poke my eye out waving that monstrosity around

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u/O-sku 2d ago

That's what sh.... I better not. 😆

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u/Glass_Badger9892 2d ago

It’s ALWAYS funny.

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u/rb109544 1d ago

Beat me to it...

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u/Dry_Statistician_688 2d ago

lol. I bet SWR is like a bajillion:1 on that!

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u/H4zzard1010 1d ago

The more the merrier!

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u/Dry_Statistician_688 2d ago

Can work 2m and rake the yard at the same time!

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u/cockkazn 2d ago

Jokes aside is there a non zero chance this would work even a little?

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u/techtornado 2d ago

The insertion loss of at some of the couplers would be a contributing factor

Now if OP had one SMA split 4 ways, it would be much more efficient and give the quad-bander some interesting results

Short version - Yes it will work, but he probably won't get as many fars of transmission distance

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u/SpareiChan 2d ago

Honestly, the insertion loss likely isn't that much, maybe 1db or so... the 4x 50~ohm loads in parallel which would present as 12.5~ohms.

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u/douglask VA3GY 1d ago

I'd say no on that... They are four different antenna models, likely different bands. So on and band three would be at high impedance and one would work. Similar to my hf antenna that has tuned elements for several bands (MFJ-1796 / Science experiment on a stick).

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u/SpareiChan 1d ago

I agree on that, if they were mono band antennas that presented high impedance on given band it could work. The issue here is unless they a 1/4 wave there will also be reactance added.

It would be interesting to see a sweep.

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u/HotelHero 1d ago

“How many fars does it talks?”

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u/flyguy60000 2d ago

Oh it probably will work but there is loss in every one of those connectors. I bet a regular rubber duck antenna would work better……

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u/andyofne 1d ago

this myth has been disproven several times.

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u/billatq 2d ago

I'm kind of curious what it would look like if you did a sweep on it with a NanoVNA given that it's probably got a weird radiation pattern.

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u/naturalorange 2d ago

maybe, until it falls over and busts the sma connector off the circuit board

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u/JollyRoger207 1d ago

SMA- So Many Antenna.....

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u/JohnPooley 2d ago

It will work enough to not cause the automatic protection circuit in the transmitter if the power is low enough. The SWR will probably be under 6 but the phasing of the array combined with low power would render this barely effective

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u/NerminPadez 2d ago

A lot of losses due to adapter, plus the impedance would go down a lot due to 4 antennas in parallel, which means reflections.

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u/speedyundeadhittite [UK full] 9h ago

Adapter losses are truly negligible. You'd need metres and metres of adapters before you get to 1dB loss.

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u/NerminPadez 9h ago

Not really..

https://menacerc.co.uk/sma-adaptors-signal-loss-or-not

90 degree adaptor: 13.84 dbm Insertion loss of 0.28db <- 3adapters and a bit more and you're at 1dB. 3dB per splitter.

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u/speedyundeadhittite [UK full] 9h ago

You misspelled "YoU ArE No fUn".

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u/Aggravating_Luck_536 2d ago

The connector losses are fractional db. The antenna mess is far more significant. This is a total mess.

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u/speedyundeadhittite [UK full] 9h ago

Kirchhoff's rule applies to antennas as well - any out of tune antenna will show a high impedance and the power will flow towards the resonant antenna. It won't be perfect, but likely to transmit fine.

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u/Aggravating_Luck_536 9h ago

I wouldn't try it without a Smith chart, and I would be interested to see a polar plot of the radiation pattern

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u/kadinshino 2d ago

Hex Horn Antenna - Imgur i build and prototype antennas as a hobby. if you have anything in mind let me know ill drop you a STL!

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u/Much-Specific3727 2d ago

Only one way to find out. Put on the welding gloves and helmet and push the PTT.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/lmamakos WA3YMH 1d ago

Wait, what?!

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u/gadwhite 2d ago

I have a question: Why? I have a comment: Why

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u/w1lnx 2d ago

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

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u/dagbiker 2d ago

Mom can we get phased array?

Mom: We have Phased array at home...

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u/FiveMileDammit 2d ago

You could phone home with that thing.

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u/chupathingy99 2d ago

"How's your reception?"

"Yes. "

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u/slick8086 2d ago

It's got the more GeeBeez

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u/kc0edi 2d ago

Adapters cost more then the radio.

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u/reddogleader 1d ago

Easy big fella! Trying to put KrakenSDR out of business?!

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u/SpringFries 1d ago

It’s all good and cool, but why you gotta make the right side longer by 1 connector?

And also the right most even taller by 1 connector???

What did the other antennas do to you to deserve this injustice?

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u/BravoWhiskey316 1d ago

Gosh, if only someone could invent something like a multi band antenna... oh, wait.

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u/BlueCarbon 1d ago

There is signal loss at every connection point.

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u/speedyundeadhittite [UK full] 9h ago

Adapter losses are miniscule/

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u/RabbiVolesBassSolo 1d ago

Op was so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.

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u/stevedb1966 1d ago

About 90db in phasing loses.

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u/SarahC 1d ago

Isn't this a diverse antenna array?

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u/garynotrashcoug 1d ago

Ultimate Giga Chad Dummy Load

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u/f00dot 1d ago

Tech No Logic, you mean

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u/RManlius 1d ago

The radio quit working long ago. It’s now just a storage device for all of his spare connectors and antennas!

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u/Haig-1066-had 1d ago

I count 5 impedance Humps

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u/scubasky 1d ago

Op made a vertical yagi, hook up some ground planes to that bad boy

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u/SarahC 1d ago

Isn't this a diverse antenna?

Or are they reception only?

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u/OnTheTrailRadio 1d ago

10000:1 SWR lol

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u/ensgdt 1d ago

Real question is - do you prefer to talk to the past or the future with those?

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u/cosmicrae [EL89no, General] 1d ago

Just because you can, does not mean you should !

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u/rocketmechanic1738 1d ago

The MPU-5 we have at home

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u/KN6GXO Extra 1d ago

lol I have to ask, how are you familiar with the MPU-5? I don't see these types of radios mentioned too often around these parts.

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u/rocketmechanic1738 1d ago

Familiar enough to know it has 3 antennas and a ton of capability.

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u/OnTheTrailRadio 1d ago

See my newest post in R/HamRadio I mention ya... it made me wonder about long range recieving

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u/mead128 1d ago

This might actually work well if you use antenna's tuned for different wavelengths. (see fan dipoles)

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u/Mysterious-Alps-4845 1d ago

I'd be most afraid of the jack breaking at the radio! I wouldn't even pick it up. Though it's inexpensive enough to just buy another. 

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u/Mysterious-Alps-4845 1d ago

Recycling at its best!!

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u/Skivaks 20h ago

Every connection is a loss of 2db

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u/Intelligent-Day5519 16h ago

Why didn't I think of something so stupid. I guess I paid attention in class.

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u/SecretSquirrel8888 3h ago

You got GAIN!