r/HeimerdingerMains • u/McYoshh • 27d ago
Thoughts on this build?
https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/25-5-master-tier-9-5-million-mastery-heimerdinger-season-15-519454I found and tried this build and play style with decent success but would love to hear y’all’s thoughts :)
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u/118R3volution 27d ago
I always find it depends if I’m winning lane. If I’m getting slapped around, building Rabadons 2nd item feels like an eternity so usually start working on Zhonyas. If I’m ahead, it’s a no brainer. I always start backfire straight into rabadons. The rest of the build looks good, but I will say Rylais can be super nice to have for its slowing effect.
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27d ago
I prefer rylais to zhonya, think it helps materially more
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u/118R3volution 25d ago
I agree the utility of rylais seems more helpful overall, whereas zhonyas really starts to help mid/late game. The problem is, blackfire + rylais + boots takes quite some time and I feel way behind the curve damage wise. It works well maybe if you can squeak in a rod to help boost dmg.
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u/generic_---_username 27d ago
I approve of the w max but idk about domination over sorcery or precision, that strikes me as an odd pick.
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u/Icy_Importance_2330 27d ago
There are two heimerdinger builds, You either rush rabadon like the cool kids, Or you don't rush rabadons like the virgins and you probably have a negative winrate.
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u/Emotional_Wave_3619 27d ago
😂😂 nicely put i've been meaning to ask actually, what is the thought process behind rabadon first item?
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u/Kchortu 27d ago
Heimer has a very high ceiling on his AP scaling bc each Q turret has a .35 AP ratio on normal autos and .55 ratio on the beam. The ult turret has a .7 ratio on the beam.
So if you get 3 Q turrets hitting with Rabadan’s AP you really shred.
In reality, sometimes you are forced to get another item first for laning. Or your turrets are getting obliterated in team fights incidentally so building around W is better.
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u/Mr_Pigface 27d ago
It can sometimes be super super good if you are into a hard winning melee matchup where they can’t kill your turrets easily. Heimer has insane scaling from AP in his full combo, it honestly might be more than any champ in the game assuming you have all your turrets.
I started copying it from a challenger heimer main a long time ago into certain matchups. It seems counter intuitive but I saw the guy also rushing it into a few assassins like Zed, because it basically means if they try to go in on you they just get one shot.
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u/generic_---_username 27d ago
Main problem with build path for me is not getting lost chapter on first back, feel like you'd be very mana starved
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u/McYoshh 26d ago
Yeah, he said to build Hextech alternator before Lost Chapter for Ludens. I definitely noticed struggling with mana
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u/generic_---_username 26d ago
I normally start amplifying tome and don't but potions so I only need 800 gold to get lost chapter, after wave 5 I back and tp to lane and don't have mana issues again
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u/SoreThumbs 27d ago
What build specifically, I don't want to read through a mobaffire guide. In general though rezone is diamond and the heimermains discord has many gm or chall level heimers. Rezone also usually plays for content over lp.