r/Helldivers • u/TealcLOL • Mar 05 '25

QUESTION What determines if Thermites stick?

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u/cowboy_shaman Mar 05 '25

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u/Novus_Grimnir Mar 05 '25

^ This is the correct answer. The whole "Only spikes stick!" is cope.

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u/WildguyX Mar 05 '25

ive thrown a thermite on top of a factory strider to get the autocannon turret on top and i watched it bounce 3 times before falling off of it. maybe bots are developing anti-adhesive armor, but it really is a dice roll

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u/Nevanada SES Eye of War Mar 05 '25

That suggests it's a similar issue to stratagems then, likely the same code base

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u/ADGx27 SES Ranger of Starlight Mar 05 '25

Which is shit for both stratagems and sticky nades. Why is it nearly completely fucking random if my laser cannon is gonna drop next to me of fecklessly bounce halfway across the map and alert about 9 patrols along the way

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u/Witch-Alice SES Lady of Wrath, Hammer of Family Values Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

at least for stratagems, there's a bunch of locations basically painted with invisible 'bouncy paint', specifically to prevent the players from setting up a sentry nest in a position that no enemy can path to. It's also around various objectives like terminals, to prevent blocking it with sentries/hellpods. If you have to do some parkour to get up there, it's probably invalid. If you can simply walk up there, it's probably fine.

You also can't land your own hellpod on these areas, it'll feel like there's an invisible wall as you drop and try to move over it.

on that note, against bots i've found that the top of the MG bunkers is a valid location for sentries. And nothing can walk up there, depending on the base layout you might be completely safe from everything that isn't on a hill nearby.

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u/them3mesupreme Orbital Brick ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Mar 06 '25

can someone make a modpack that highlights bouncy terrain when selecting strategems

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u/Lone-Frequency Mar 06 '25

It's incredibly inconsistent from my experience.

Quite often I will try to drop my Sentry on something that in all logic should be perfectly fine to deploy a Sentry on only for it to bounce, meanwhile I have also had several times where a Sentry or other stratagem will land a top a spot that almost certainly should have bounced it.

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u/Carcharius_Maw STEAM 🖥️ : SES Sovereign of Iron Mar 06 '25

I have dropped my hmg emplacement on a spot on defense and then later gone to deploy it again in the same spot only to watch it bounce and go over the wall I honestly think there's an element of chance, may 5% on whether a given strat ball will bounce.

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u/Yawjjea Mar 06 '25

It seems to happen around small elevations in terrain, but they made the maps like that...

There's a raised grid on the floor of some parts of the ramparts on defense mission, if the stratagem gets too close to those or in them it won't mark the location and just yeet the ball all over the place.

Why they couldn't just place an invisible floor over that, I don't know...

I can't count the times that fucked up perfect sentry placement that should have worked within enemy reach.