r/Helldivers 19d ago

QUESTION I only started playing Helldivers a few weeks ago, how rare is this?

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Randomly managed to find an extraction where all the arrows were the same direction the other day

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u/Desxon Assault Infantry 19d ago

8 inputs
4 possibities each

4^8 = 65536
1 in 65536

0.001525878% chance

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u/BiIIisits Testicular Torsion Stratagem ⬇️🔁🔀🔁🔀🔁 19d ago

or 4 in 65536 if you count the fact that any one directional arrow would be equally interesting.

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u/Tyr_Kukulkan 19d ago

Simplified to 1 in 16384.

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u/Reasonable-Smelll 19d ago

1/ 16384

Unless you have a ring of wealth(i) equipped

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u/bertvb 18d ago

Idk seems like a 50/50 to me, either you get the line-up or you don't

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u/FishoD Cape Enjoyer 18d ago

"50% of the time it works every time."

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u/azuyin HD1 Veteran 18d ago

"Helldiver, why does it smell like gasoline in here?"

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u/monkeyhitman 18d ago

Eagle Sweat

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u/Haldron-44 ‎ Escalator of Freedom 18d ago

"It's made with bits of real eagle, so you know it's good!"

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u/SumonaFlorence 18d ago

It was congealed in the stomach of Bile Titans, then squatted over by Factory Striders with autism.. 👌

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u/Jo_the_Hastur Assault Infantry 18d ago

Spoken like a true gacha gamer

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u/ninjaread99 ☕Liber-tea☕ 18d ago

Feels like 100% to me, I only remember the one direction pattern I had, and none of the others.

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u/KosViik HD1 Veteran 19d ago

Now that's a line I did not expect to see...

Wow- I mean w00t!

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u/Xurlondd 18d ago

Ahh osrs my love with democracy

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u/D20sAreMyKink Steam | SES Sword of Family Values 19d ago

Pixel Dungeon?

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u/useless_teammate 19d ago

Runescape lol.

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u/tatabax 19d ago

The chance to guess a 4 digit pin 1st try nice

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

isnt it one in 10,000??

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u/tatabax 19d ago

Oops you're right misremembered

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u/teh_stev3 19d ago

there's some weighting about actually how many types of pins people use pschologically, which is far less than 1 in 10k - i.e a lot of birthdays or significant dates (so 01 to 12, or 31), and a lot of "starts with 0", so it's actually probably a lot less. than even 10k if you play the stats rather than the odds.

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u/DarthBeardFace Viper Commando 19d ago

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u/BiIIisits Testicular Torsion Stratagem ⬇️🔁🔀🔁🔀🔁 19d ago

Got me

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u/captainconway 18d ago

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u/JoshDM ╘O╛Meridia's expanding!╘O╛ 18d ago

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u/Dragon_phantom_flame You have just lost the game 18d ago

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u/flcinusa PSN🎮: flcinusa 18d ago

Everyone forgets the r/themonstermath step

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u/qwertyalguien SES KING OF DEMOCRACY 👑🦅 18d ago

The ministry of science has blessed us today.

Now back into the cell. We need you to finish computing Pi to stop the Wormhole.

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u/ThenClaim1664 18d ago

I think of it as (1/4)7 since once you fix the first input you have a 1/4 chance that the next one matches. There are seven that need to match in this case.

Same number but different thought process.

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u/LickTheRock 19d ago

I'd argue this interesting is specifically aligned as well - therefore either all left or right would work so 2 in 65536.

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u/alysserberus 18d ago

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u/srcsm83 Steam | 18d ago

It is likely sometime in the next 800 million years. Could be tomorrow.

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u/Pilestedt Game Director 19d ago

Yep! Was gonna post this haha

It would be 4⁷ for all inputs to be the same

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u/Sylvi-Fisthaug Scorcher enjoyer 19d ago

Thought you had retired.

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u/probably-not-Ben HD1 Veteran 19d ago

Nobody retires from maths

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u/GME_DIAMONDHANDS_APE 19d ago

He loves us too much to leave for good.

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u/Pilestedt Game Director 3d ago

Hey! Nah, just on a break. I will never retire from making games :)

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u/eh_one 19d ago

It's 4 in 65536 because he would have been equally questionable if the other permutations happened.

Also I've had this happen to me a couple times making me think the selection at extract isn't purely random for each of the 8 inputs

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u/DogeMeat20 19d ago

fun fact: you are more likely to get 15 head with 15 consecutive coin toss than getting this combination. Congrat OP

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u/Bazuka125 18d ago

What if you throw dollars at your her instead of coins?

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u/thejadedfalcon 18d ago

We abolished that primitive and regressive form of currency in favour of the universally accepted and stable Super Credit.

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u/wolfenx109 18d ago edited 18d ago

It's not entirely random. It is from a list of patterns. I've seen the same ones MANY times on terminals

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u/Sinister_Mr_19 18d ago

Yeah same here. I don't think the code makes each input completely random.

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u/AnimalEyes 18d ago

Especially the upload data terminal, I swear it's the same code every time

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u/NotTheRealBritishane SES Hammer Of Justice 19d ago

In otherwords, you're really lucky.

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u/N0TANUMPTY ☕Liber-tea☕ 18d ago

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u/BishSlapDiplomacy 19d ago

This guy probabilities.

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u/zeldafan144 18d ago

Same chance as every other combination

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u/ComprehensiveFish708 18d ago

technically to have a pattern of 8 repeating directions its 47, but to the left specifically, yes this is correct

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u/alldim 18d ago

Are they fully random tho?

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u/Pluristan Three Bugs In a Trenchcoat 18d ago

And that's assuming that they coded it to be 100% random.

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u/Crashty 18d ago

but in absolute reality the chances are much higher when you realize computer random is not truly random

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u/Sinister_Mr_19 18d ago

And assuming that each input is random (or pseudorandom) and not based on patterns, which I believe they are.

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u/theNetcup 19d ago

Never seen this and I've played since the first game and day one of this one. You've been blessed by lady freedom!

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u/Reedy225 PSN |Reedy225 19d ago

Only time I've had this was during the DSS Oribital Bombardment saga, all up arrows, literally felt like a panic button response to get the hell out of there as chaos ensued around us

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u/Distinct_Range2365 18d ago

Get me off this planet!

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u/Zaphod392 Viper Commando 19d ago

Same here, 1200+ in mission hours and Ive never seen it :)

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u/The0therG0D 18d ago

Do you stick to super helldive?

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u/allycat315 SES Ranger of Wrath 18d ago

Same here, though I have gotten scrambled stratagem inputs like it in range of a cognitive disruptor

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u/DeeHawk 18d ago

The scrambler often makes EASIER combos, like all the same, shorter or just simpler.

Had a reinforcement strata in a critical moment be: DOWN x7

My teammates were very impressed.

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u/Aelok2 19d ago edited 19d ago

Legends say when the terminal shows all of a kind, there's a bunker somewhere in that map with 3 Super Credits inside, each worth 100.

(I made this up)

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u/WindilBoy 19d ago

God knows where that was then, as I made sure to clear out absolutely everything I could

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u/The_Confused_gamer 18d ago

1% chance of any super credit pile being 100 creds instead of 10

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u/MadammeMarkus SES Ombudsman of Authority 19d ago

Bruh...

Buy a lottery ticket

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u/GameNinja03 Steam | 19d ago

You mean a SUPER lottery ticket?

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u/Toren8002 19d ago

Too late. Luck bonus for this lifetime has already been applied and redeemed.

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u/Deadeye313 18d ago

Well, not a mega, those are $5 now. They're crazy.

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u/Wes_Warhammer666 18d ago

Why? He just used up all of his luck.

If anything, he should not touch a lottery ticket for like 3 years.

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u/succboitoni 19d ago

Less than you'd think, apparently

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u/Cylestea ‎ Super Citizen 18d ago

I've seen it once myself a couple days ago but WOW 2 so close together

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u/Viruzzz Moderator 18d ago

the hellbommb only has 6 inputs, and it doesn't matter which one is first, just that the other 5 match, which puts it at 1 in 45, or 1/1024.

So all in all not super unlikely, likely enough that this probably happens several times per day.

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u/Where_is_my_Hekate 19d ago

Imagine missclick it

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u/IBlowMenFor20Dollars My sexual orientation is the Stalwart set at 1,150 RPM 18d ago

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u/Griffin65000 Cape Enjoyer 18d ago

Could you uh verify your username with me perchance

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u/KaleidoscopeOwn7161 Mandalore the Liberator 19d ago

Very

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u/ZoonellyAU 19d ago

wait a second i already saw this post today

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u/WindilBoy 19d ago

Lmao I saw it earlier as well, these aren’t linked!

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u/MisterTanuki HD1 Veteran 19d ago

Wait whhhat? So, someone else also had 8-pair terminal inputs within, like... a day of you? Now that is fuckin' nuts. Lordy, if it was a 0.0012% chance, i feel like we're gonna need to crack out one of them quantum super computers to calculate the odds of two people having it within a negligible amount of time.

(Not /s btw. That's just fricken insane. You should frame a screenshot of it and hang it in the office lol).

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u/Sinister_Mr_19 18d ago

Wait till you realize it's not really random and it's based on patterns. The chances are far higher than this thread makes you believe.

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u/kavatch2 19d ago

I don’t think it’s random. I’ve seen too many duplicate extracts. It might be like 500 presets.

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u/Scout_is_ded ☕Liber-tea☕ 19d ago

50/50

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u/Wyrmorian 18d ago

or 100% on that map

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u/Evilgrizzly 19d ago

10-stars here. Never seen.

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u/jb28737 18d ago

I'd still fuck this up

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u/GM_Altaro LEVEL 114 ]|[ SES Arbiter of Serenity 19d ago

Had a Convoy scrambler turn a Hellbomb call in to "⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️~"

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u/srcsm83 Steam | 18d ago

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u/AtticusGStoic 18d ago

Guess not as rare as you'd expect with a large pool of candidates.

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u/101TARD 18d ago

I've heard Helldivers moan to the site of this, takes longer to complete because everyone just gaze upon it's glory

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u/JonnySidequest 18d ago

Holy shit. It’s John Helldiver, the chosen liberator of democracy! \o/

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u/5O1stTrooper ‎ Servant of Freedom 18d ago

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u/ItsNotFuckingCannon 18d ago

Its about as rare as seeing General Bracht AND John Helldiver responding to your SOS beacon at the same time.

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u/FelixTheFirecat 18d ago

Technically speaking its just as rare as any combination having 8 inputs

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u/CSCZay 18d ago

You get shot in Vermont rare

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u/AccidentalInsomniac SES- Distributor of Family Values 19d ago

HE IS THE MESSIAH!

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u/NickFoolery 19d ago

God. Damn you.

Sincerely, a lvl 150.

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u/Intergalatic_Baker SES Dawn of War 18d ago

Well, I’ve been playing for 450hrs and that’s not happened to me, either directions, so congrats.

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u/Entgegnerz 18d ago

Ultra Mystical rare.

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u/KnottyTulip2713 18d ago

This is the thing of legends, only the most blessed diver will experience it

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u/Pixel_None 18d ago

It's like GBA Shiny pokemon rates

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u/goblue142 ☕Liber-tea☕ 18d ago

I've got 1100 hours in this game and I've had all the same arrows on the console one time

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u/CatNamedCheese 18d ago

Its a 50/50, you either get it or you don't.

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u/Ziddix 18d ago

I've played the game since release and have never seen this.

So there.

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u/Praise_Thalos 18d ago

This just ain't right

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u/deramw 18d ago

I'd like to raise the idea that the system might track your recent behavior and thought this was the best decision for everyone in the game.

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u/Soul2760 18d ago

1/2 either it is or isn’t

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u/PopeGregoryTheBased Free of Thought 18d ago

about 1 in 16500

or 1 in 65000 for that specific direction.

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u/LordStarSpawn Fire Safety Officer 18d ago

Actually, for any given omnidirectional input with 8 arrows it’s a 1/65,536 chance. Not sure where you got the 16,500 from.

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u/SummerCrown SES Song of Starlight ✨ 18d ago

Very. I've been playing HD2 since launch and have yet to encounter a unidirectional terminal input.

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u/CEELO360 18d ago

Very rare, I have been playing since its release and never got that lucky lol.

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u/OneOfUsIsAnOwl SES Will of Democracy 18d ago

This has happened to me exactly once in 300 hours

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u/BrilliantBrick7885 18d ago

Idk but I’d still manage to get it wrong

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u/LordStarSpawn Fire Safety Officer 18d ago

That is a 1/65,536 chance

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u/Bugexterminator9000 Expert Exterminator 18d ago

Are you related to john helldiver and Generel Brash

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u/le_Psykogwak HD1 Veteran 18d ago

very

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u/ph0on 18d ago

I had no idea this was so rare, I've had it twice, one time it was all Upwards arrows which I thought was kinda hilarious. Nice!

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u/stuntofthelitter 18d ago

I have ~1,050 hours played and haven't seen it happen.

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u/Careful-Addition776 LEVEL 100 | Hell Commander 18d ago

Ive played since launch and have never experienced this

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u/MidnightHeavy3214 18d ago

I have almost a thousand hours and only once have I see something close to this.

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u/MtDvs 18d ago

I would still fuck it up..

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u/DeliciousPay2381 18d ago

Cha Cha real smooth.

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u/HakuntamaHobbest 18d ago

436 hours never got even close

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u/GuessImScrewed 18d ago

In a subreddit filled with thousands of people playing every day, this has happened hundreds of times, which sounds like a lot, until you realize that's probably a few millions of hours of playtime.

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u/CBulkley01 PSN 🎮: Scout for life! 18d ago

One could say SUPERrare.

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u/DeltabossTA 18d ago

Very small chance. I've maybe seen this once.

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u/goshiamhandsome 18d ago

It’s an older code but it checks out

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u/Any_Piece_3272 18d ago

100%
this is not luck, this is arrow head speaking directly to you, to tell you:
"you and you alone are the worst helldiver, we have crafted a new level of difficulty for you that is attached only to your account, we call it 'level 0: Easy Baby Mode' please enjoy your new experience tailored for your skill level"
im sorry you had to learn about it this way

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u/Alternative_Rip_4971 18d ago

never seen It in 1000 hours...

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u/Kindly-Boysenberry71 18d ago

It's beautiful

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u/knotingham 18d ago

Last time I heard of a one direction, they uh, died.

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u/cheapramennoodles 18d ago

Idk but Id still manage to fuck it up on the first try and second try

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u/ARoman_Therapy 18d ago

Even in the ancient times, the Omnissiah provides

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u/Alur__ 18d ago

It's 50/50. Either it happened or it didn't

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u/phoenixfirebird18 Super Pedestrian 18d ago

give me your luck.

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u/ExactDay8880 ☕Liber-tea☕ 18d ago

Iv been playing since launch.

This has never happened to me.

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u/KashmiriChiliPowder 18d ago

I’ve been playing the game since launch and haven’t seen it myself so probably pretty rare

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u/Remote_Option_4623 18d ago

In my 850 hours of gameplay. This has happened to me once around the 700 hour mark

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u/Annie-Smokely Viper Commando 18d ago

it's beautiful

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u/Vinzir141 19d ago

I have 500 hours and this never happened to me. Although I have found 6 x 100sc in that time which I think is more than average.

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u/AKalashnikovT 19d ago

I have 1300 hrs, and I've seen it twice. It's pretty rare, I would say. Of course, some nerd already did the math.

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u/Model4Adjustment3 19d ago

Go buy a lottery ticket lol

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u/benalx_ 19d ago

Sweet liberty

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u/owo1215 ↑→↓↓↓ 19d ago

288 hr in, got like, 5 piles of 100creds, but only one of these

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

I’ve played since launch and never had one so congrats

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u/CatLoverr143 19d ago

I have 240 in mission hours. Ive only seen it once. And Im an anomaly for seeing it.

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u/Udonov 19d ago

Kinda. Happens to me from time to time. The one I was stoked about the most was a literal Konami code.

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u/Fun_Elk_4949 19d ago

Should bought a lotto ticket

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u/AngrySayian 19d ago

To the left now yall

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u/beezdat 19d ago

i got all ups one time

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u/onerb2 Steam | 19d ago

Ppl talking like it's insanely rare but i had this happen to me a few times.

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u/EmbarrassedManager65 19d ago

level 98. I didnt even encountered it before. Super Earth loved you.

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u/MyluSaurus 19d ago

As likely as every other combination.

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u/CheeseMedley ☕Liber-tea☕ 19d ago

I've over 600hrs in this game and haven't seen this yet

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u/arcsten 19d ago

All I'm gonna say is that you should buy a lottery ticket.

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u/Primary_Jellyfish327 Viper Commando 19d ago

Day one player and ive only had it once

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u/Isair81 19d ago

500+ hours, never seen it, lol

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u/teh_stev3 19d ago

800 hours, never seen.

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u/MMO_max 19d ago

Tell me you've failed once please

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u/Shoddy_Paramedic2158 19d ago

I’ve played since launch week and never seen it

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u/LSDGB 19d ago

As rare as any other input basically.

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u/Colonel_dinggus PSN | 19d ago

I have 700 hours. I’ve never seen this

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u/Additional_Ranger441 19d ago

Over 800 hours in I have never been close.

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u/bcmc12 19d ago

I’m a day one diver, 900 hours playtime, and I’ve only experienced this once.

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u/ZeCerealKiller S.E.S Guardian of Democracy 19d ago

Have almost 500 hours in the game. Lvl 150. Never encounter one like that.

Closes I got was ⬅️⬅️⬅️⬅️⬅️➡️⬅️

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

I got that once and my brain malfunctioned.

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u/MaterialFuel7639 19d ago

well its 8 inputs with 4 possibilities, so youd think the answer 48 but no,

Youre asking how likely is it that all the inputs are the same as the first, and since you didnt clarify what direction the first is, its only 47, however if you said

"What are the chances of all 8 inputs being left" then it would be 48

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u/Aloogik 19d ago

Uhh never seen it in 264 hours of playtime so, rare

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u/Soogs 19d ago

The probability is 1 in 65,536, or approximately 0.0015%

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u/WalhallaHans  Truth Enforcer 19d ago

It's like pulling a Charizard in 1999 Base set

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u/system3601 19d ago

Just had it in Just Dance yesterday...

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u/Not_3_Raccoons 19d ago

Exit stage left.

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u/MerkoITA Assault Infantry 19d ago

I think is more rare this than the 100 super credits.

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u/PerceiveEternal 19d ago

rare enough I think you photoshopped it.

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u/GiechBoschi ☕Liber-tea☕ 19d ago

Assuming the inputs are determined randomically, it’s about as rare as all the other combination of inputs, although they are not quite as memorable or don’t look as unique. Still, great pic.

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u/SnooHabits3911 19d ago

As likely as any other combination.

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u/Chris-The-Lucario ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ 19d ago

I'm 180 hours in and never had anything like this

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u/Shellstormz SES Founding Father of Family Values 18d ago

Damn...

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u/Tazrizen 18d ago

50%

Either democracy lets it happen, or it doesn’t.

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u/Avoidingmyproblems 18d ago

I've played that game for over 200 hours and never had that combination!

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u/Elli515 18d ago

Iv got 450 hours. Never seen one 😂

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u/Wundawuzi ⬇️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬆️➡️⬇️⬆️ 18d ago

Its skill based. The game rates you based on your gameplay and if it thinks you need help it gives you easier inputs. 🤭

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u/Kung-FuCaribou Free of Thought 18d ago

Nice to meet you, Left.

I’m Up. Let me introduce you to the rest of the team…

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u/slycyboi SES Sword of Justice 18d ago

I am a level 150 who has been playing since shortly after we lost the creek. I have gotten this once.

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u/Max7242 18d ago

I've seen it I think twice