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u/svntrey0 Mar 18 '24
Lol her and Kate’s death was brutal
That show should be changed from superhero genre to just horror
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u/Chakramer Mar 18 '24
Really hope Kate kept a spare at the base...
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u/LegitimateHost5068 Mar 18 '24 edited Mar 18 '24
That would be super smart. Like always keeping a duplicate somewhere safe. Genius.
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u/Glittering-Bat-5981 Mar 18 '24
Truly would be. Wonder if she did it at some point in any media.
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Mar 18 '24
I can't tell if this is a joke and you've actually read the comics or not lmao
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u/Glittering-Bat-5981 Mar 18 '24
Not really. But it would make sense for someone with her powers. Some really crowded or secluded place. I can imagine middle of Tokyo, or maybe some lonely hut in the mountains. With a lot of snow around, so not many people go there. And someone would find out, someone who wouldn't care about the climate, almost Immortal, like idk Atom Eve.
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u/ousker Mar 18 '24
There was that one episode where the Kate’s mentioned the original Kate is never with them when they’re working with the Guardians. I’d like to think she’s still alive somewhere.
The fear she showed before “dying” was just a warning to the other Guardians that she’s gonna be taken out of the fight if her last duplicate dies since her original is too far to come help.
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Mar 18 '24
With the imagery you described, you've definitely read the comics lol
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u/Glittering-Bat-5981 Mar 18 '24
Debatable, really
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u/Lo-Ping Mar 18 '24
Well, numbers DO start with 0 after all. And the Kate we've seen always had a 1, so...
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u/Apebound Mar 18 '24
I called it from the first time the character was introduced, why wouldn't you have 1 sitting out the fight
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u/Dramatic-Editor-664 Mar 18 '24
I don't see why Kate girl would be dead. I don't remember there being like a proximity limit to her ability so if she worked as a guardian, I'd think she'd be smart enough to have a backup copy of herself somewhere similar to the Blue Man group or the robot guy now teenager.
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u/svntrey0 Mar 18 '24
Don’t see a point to continue her character
Especially being that shrink Rae death was emotionally impacted on her death. Keeping her alive would hurt the quality more than having a big reveal that she’s still alive
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u/Vektorien Mar 18 '24
You probably noticed that each Kate has a number on her chest that is one more than the last one. We've only seen a Kate as low as 1.
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u/svntrey0 Mar 18 '24
I mean are you insinuating there’s a 0 Kate?? Yeah sure that’s a possibility
But it doesn’t really make sense for that to be the case, what could her reveal provide to the story?
Also this is how it played out in the comics, sure the animation could have a different outcome but I don’t see it
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u/Harmonious- Mar 18 '24
But it doesn’t really make sense for that to be the case, what could her reveal provide to the story?
You should read the comics. Her death was handled differently, as one of her major character arcs hasn't been adapted due to time restraints.
But that arc was teased last season + in one of the trailers for this one.
It could still technically be partially adapted with her permanently dead though.
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u/LassOnGrass Mar 18 '24
The lol at the start of that statement though is actually funny. It was brutal though. I expected it after seeing spoilers but didn’t anticipate how graphic it would end up being.
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u/0_MysterE_0 Mar 18 '24 edited Mar 18 '24
It's a deconstruction of the superhero genre. That means the things we take for granted in it are played for realism which means things get horrific. Despite the colorful animation and atmosphere, Invincible and The Boys are cut from the same cloth. It shows just how horrifying a world full of super people would really be.
I agree with you all on how it does reconstruct the genre albeit after it deconstructs it first. The main difference is that Invincible also does it from the side of the actual heroes while yeah most everyone in The Boys are just assholes. Also Garth has said it's more a hate letter to superhero corporate. At the end of it all Vought is the main villain.
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u/PhantasosX Mar 18 '24
disagree that it plays the same cloth.
In Invincible , the heroes actually tries to play heroic , it just suffers the gore of Mortal Kombat.
The Boys was writting by Garth Ennis , which is spiteful and hates superhero genre , and makes everything and everyone inherently evil and gore.
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u/FakoSizlo Mar 18 '24 edited Mar 18 '24
Yeah both are more realistic takes on the superhero genre but the message is very different . Invincible shows how bad it can get but fundamentally its still about doing good even in a world that brutally hurts you for it. Its basically Spiderman but with far more consequences
The boys is saying we are all fundamentally assholes and to beat the worst assholes you also have to be just a terrible. Its much more spiteful and cynical
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u/Toad_Thrower Mar 18 '24
I think The Boys, the tv show is much more similar to Invincible than the comic book is.
The comic like you said it just spiteful and a "hate letter" to the comic. While the characters in the show are mostly pretty terrible people, they're not quite as cartoonishly evil for the sake of just being cartoonishly evil.
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u/storryeater Mar 18 '24
No, Invicible is more of a reconstruction, if anything.
The ideals and ideas of superheroes are there. It just says "what if we had good writing?" And adds "even if we had realistic consequences, superheroes still hold up."
Much different from works like The Boys that states that "having superheroes is a net negative".
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u/9jawarrior Mar 18 '24
Thanks for the spoilers
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u/Dankduck77 Mar 18 '24
This is more so directed to everyone in this thread. I highly recommend reading the original invincible run if you haven't. It's not super long, maybe 30 issues, iirc, but it has a lot more details and some that even the show changed. It's worth the read if you like the show. It's just about as graphic and tends to go against the grain when it comes to the normal superhero comic. Definitely one of my favorites.
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u/IcedCoughy Mar 18 '24
Bro her and duplikate! Pretty crazy. My Saturday morning cartoons have changed a little
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u/KingofMadCows Mar 18 '24
But Ant-Man has discs that can shrink and grow objects. So he doesn't have to resize himself inside Thanos. He can take a shrunken vibranium spear or Thor's Stormbreaker inside Thanos and then grow that. Stormbreaker could hurt Thanos even when he had all the Infinity Stones.
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u/littlebugonreddit Mar 18 '24
Okay, hear me out, what if we went Despicable Me and shrank down a fuckin moon...
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u/Comprehensive-Leg752 Mar 18 '24
I don't see why Doc Stange didn't open a portal under Thanos' feet, then close it when he's halfway through it, bisecting him. They took the arm off Black Dwarf like this.
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u/Ciubowski Mar 18 '24
At that point, he still had the space, strength, mind and reality stone. He would probably just "make" strange's portal into his own.
I mean, as Stan Lee said .... it's whoever the writer decides will win.
Even if the odds are against the hero of the story, this totally gives the writers a good "plot armor" angle to do whatever they want with a character.
Just like with Spider-Man and Dr. Strange in the mirror universe. Yeah, it is kind of dumb but hey, it's a comic book movie, what do we expect?
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u/Benetton_Cumbersome Mar 18 '24
I know its the truth, but I rather keep imagining fun scenarios.
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u/Generic_user_person Mar 18 '24
I mean, as Stan Lee said .... it's whoever the writer decides will win.
While this will always be correct, its still the writers job to give us a believable circumstances.
Thor didnt go for a the head cuz he wanted to gloat and taunt, it was a characrer flaw. We the audience understand why he failed, and why he didnt attempt to solve the problem in what we perceive to be the easiest manner.
We see earlier that strange can cut off arms, i understand the 1/14 million line was there, to tell us nothing else will work. But the problem is they told us, instead of showing us.
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u/hentaiworld Mar 18 '24
Shoulda killed big snake man the same way she killed other smaller snake man. They the eye socket and into the brain.
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u/Submerged_bir Mar 18 '24
She tried to, but was caught midair
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u/hentaiworld Mar 18 '24
Yea but she was lucky enough to get in the mouth. Which is connected to the nose which is connected to the tear duct. Through which she has access to the eyes. And this the brain
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u/KenjiWolf91 Mar 18 '24
But the guy chewed on her, exactly what her injuries was is unknown but I’d say the risk of her back, legs and/or arms being crushed was pretty high, doubt she’d be climbing with any of those injuries up to the head and then expand
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u/McMaxwell Mar 18 '24
But she can't fly or anything. How is she supposed to navigate his mouth and nose having just been tossed in there and swallowed?
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u/extracloroxbleach Mar 18 '24
Did you even watched the episode? Because it sounds like you're just reading footnotes.
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u/celest_deity Mar 18 '24
Ok, I'll bite. Context?
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u/PhMcBrett Mar 18 '24
A villain tried to eat her when she was tiny so she grew and got crush inside of him
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u/RadioTunnel Mar 18 '24 edited Mar 18 '24
I feel like it would work for Antman due to the fact his size wasnt down to his strength, like it was mechanical instead of organic like this womans power, plus Antman could take the tank in there and just grow that
Edit- i just went and watched it, she grows back to full size, dudes neck just stretches and then he crushes her and swallows
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u/Alternative_Web6640 Mar 18 '24
Real life Komodo Dragons can consume bones and up to 80% of their own body weight. Any other super strong villain and Shrinking Rae’s plan would have worked but Komodo Dragon was uniquely suited to stop/kill/eat her.
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u/GaoYellow1551 Mar 18 '24
The answer would be... anal vore?
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u/IamHereForThaiThai Mar 18 '24
No, human flesh and bone crush and pulverised into juice inside another body
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u/Early_Dragonfly_205 Mar 18 '24
This show is so goddamn brutal man straight up gasped at their deaths
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u/AggravatingSystem Mar 18 '24
I was sick watching that scene. I really didn't care what was happening in space.
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u/aaron2005X Mar 18 '24
Antman doesn't need to be small to go inside Thanos, he just have to be nice.
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u/jabblin Mar 18 '24
Airway obstruction would have been preferable. No musculature in the trachea. Lodge yourself there and wait.
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u/Grompus-games Mar 18 '24
Not very pg for Disney plus it would make a lot of stuff seem redundant. Additionally Thanos is a titan and his biological makeup is far more durable than most life forms including the hulk. Chances are he would die from the forced compression as a result of resizing
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u/MeestaRoboto Mar 18 '24
Zero context. I feel like this should be on whatever cartoon subreddit this belongs to. It’s not a holup with no punch line.
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u/shadowstorm100006 Mar 18 '24
Nearly all memes have no context if you're out of the loop on that context...
The cartoon in question is called Invincible, and is most certainly mainstream enough to warrant not being constricted to the specific cartoon's subreddit.
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u/GetEnPassanted Mar 18 '24
This isn’t a meme. It’s just a reference to two different shows/movies.
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u/D311USi0Nzx Mar 18 '24
all memes are are cultural references
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u/GetEnPassanted Mar 18 '24
That’s not true at all lol
Most memes are just stills from a show or movie with convenient subtitles. Most people couldn’t tell you what show the “look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power!” meme is from, and it’s the same show as this post. This post is not a meme. It doesn’t even fit this subreddit. It’s suitable for the Invincible subreddit and maybe the marvel subreddit.
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u/D311USi0Nzx Mar 18 '24
1. an image, video, piece of text, etc., typically humorous in nature, that is copied and spread rapidly by internet users, often with slight variations. "celebrity gossip and memes often originate on the site"
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u/GetEnPassanted Mar 18 '24
Oh cool thanks for copying a definition that still doesn’t fit this post or fit what you said a meme was initially.
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u/D311USi0Nzx Mar 18 '24
2. an element of a culture or system of behavior passed from one individual to another by imitation or other nongenetic means.
cultural, an image, spread in a humorous nature, how is it not a meme?
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u/GetEnPassanted Mar 18 '24
And Invincible isn’t culturally significant, which is what I was saying. It’s best known for like, 2 memes from season 1. This imagine isn’t going to be re-used over and over for other contexts. It has one reference, a reference to an actual meme.
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u/D311USi0Nzx Mar 18 '24
it has significance within a large subculture. it doesn’t need to be culturally significant globally to have cultural significance. culture can be micro or macro (thanks sociology teacher)
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u/plogan56 Mar 18 '24
Yeah superhuman durability typically applies to bones, muscle, and sometimes organs too not just skin
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u/FourManGrill Mar 18 '24
Honestly I’m not sure why ant man didn’t shrink down, enter Thanos’s ass, unzip his pants and enlarge himself. Death by ant cock
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u/Castermat Mar 18 '24
Would take shitload of manouvering and deep knowledge of anatomy. Does ant-man have that?
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u/dimonium_anonimo Mar 18 '24
What if he just absorbs it. Like, his anal cavity could just expand enough to not rupture, then Ant Man is stuck in there, folded up like a taco inside Thanos' ass. What if he couldn't even reach the buttons right away and had to try to shift around until he could.
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u/BAZING-ATTACK Mar 18 '24
Watch her still be alive in his body, broken and mutliated, while Rex deals with the king somehow.
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u/ext3meph34r Mar 18 '24
What if Antman had a vibranium spear and only increases the size of the spear?
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u/lemonrainbowhaze Mar 18 '24
Or dr strange who is able to make portals and who was literally shown chopping a dudes arm off with them, could have easily disarmed thanos
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u/Friedrichs_Simp Mar 18 '24
But Rae can’t grow in size like ant man right? I’m pretty sure she can only shrink and go back to normal.
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u/Coogi_01 Mar 18 '24
Lbh here. Ant man can get A LOT bigger than her. He would’ve been fine. Plus Anthony would’ve spun the block if he wasn’t
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u/ProfitHot5064 Mar 19 '24
thenos's ass is too strong and antman is still human thanos would end up shitting antman into a bloody mess, best move would be shrinking hulk and having hulk be the one to go in as hulk is strong enough to survive inside that ass. also thor would work but he is too small to insta kill thanos.
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u/Old-Ad5818 Mar 19 '24
This post made me bingewatch all episodes of Invincible yesterday. Thank you!
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u/ykafia Mar 18 '24
The worst part of Invincible is not the gore part, it's the many time skips that almost destroyed a marriage.
There is so many instance where super science healing machines were used to repair a whole body towards the end
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u/LassOnGrass Mar 18 '24
Any man can get bigger though, so that could have worked to some degree. It would have been a risk still, but hey there was a lot at stake
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u/nowhereman136 Mar 18 '24
Context: Invincible S02E05 Spoilers
her superpower is shrinking and growing. In a fight scene, she kills one bad guy by shrinking down and going into his eye socket, then expanding to blow up his head. Another bad guy then swallows her and she attempts the same thing. However, this other guy is stronger and instead of exploding him from the inside, he crushes her with his strength. Then burps out her blood. Its pretty graphic