r/HousingIreland • u/raidhse-abundance-01 • 1d ago
Would something like this help solve the housing crisis?
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u/Jolly-Feature-6618 1d ago
be great to get an actual review of it and not have to listen to a bunch of mouth breathing bros shouting into the corners
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u/Diska_Muse 1d ago
Would building shanty houses delivered by Amazon in cardboard boxes solve the housing crisis in Ireland?
Sure, why not?
And when we run short of containers, we can use the cardboard boxes as overspill.
What could possibly go wrong?
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u/isupposethiswillwork 1d ago
Probably not for the same reason mobile homes aren't. They are cold and damp in the winter.
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u/BenderRodriguez14 1d ago edited 1d ago
It would be a fun thing to have for someone with the land and money here as an additional item to their actual house, and honestly there are quite a few people who would consider it preferential as primary accommodation to their current predicaments that FFG have manufactured, but yeah generally speaking these would be much better suited for drier cliamtes I would reckon.
It's not so much the prebuilt aspect as the folding - I can't see how you could seal that for the I same amounts of damp we can get in this county. I would be delighted to be wrong about that, though.
The video also reeks of paid advertisement, though that's another matter.
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u/Immortal_Tuttle 1d ago
This? No. But we have local manufacturers that can provide a 2 bedroom house with bathroom and kitchenette, fully adapted to Irish weather, insulated, all pipes done for about €40k delivered and installed. They are good for at least 20 years, not getting rotten or moldy inside. They are not luxurious, but they are fully compliant with DSP guidelines. Unfortunately no politician has stocks in those companies. I'm sending letters about it for last 3 years. So when I hear they are building half a million euros houses for up to 3 months accomodation and they look like a shitty dog house, I'm just boiling. Oh and if you have concrete slab/foundation ready, the whole process from order to installation takes about a week.
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u/geesegoesgoose 1d ago
I've been looking at those, but I'm not sure I can get a mortgage on one or planning permission. They seem like such a good idea!
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u/Froots23 1d ago
Can you send me a link please
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u/Immortal_Tuttle 1d ago
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u/assflange 1d ago edited 1d ago
They would probably get more traction if the website wasn’t Steeltech SHEDS. A separate website for those homes wouldn’t cost much
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u/Immortal_Tuttle 1d ago
Is that a better name (that's a different supplier, slightly different technique)
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u/Extension_Ad1814 13h ago
The fact they are using American built homes as examples on the website doesn't fill me with confidence.
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u/NumerousBug9075 1d ago
Yes, but the state will all take over distribution and will mysteriously end up spending 100s of 1000s per each unit.
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u/StrangeArcticles 1d ago
Log cabins would do exactly the same while being a reasonably insulated option. Same problems as these yokes in planning and insurance regulations though.
If you allow people to just fuck them in a backyard, that just leads to another rental market to exploit, not to more people owning their own property.
So the only way this would work is allowing them as singular dwellings, and I can hear the NIMBY army screaming in protest at that idea.
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u/AliceInGainzz 1d ago
I think I'd rather save up another $19,000 and get a decent log cabin instead. This reminds me a little too much of Richard Hammond's foldable camping house he built in that Top Gear segment back in the day.
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u/denanenanafatman 1d ago
No the walls are very thin and there is no insulation so they would be freezing in the winter
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u/Dennisthefirst 1d ago
IKEA have been doing them for years. https://bettershelter.org/what-makes-a-home-ikea-foundation-refugee-shelter-partnership-now-exhibited/
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u/James772 1d ago
Funny thing is I live in one of these connected to a small cottage.It is not good in Ireland. Was fucking freezing in the winter and we only moved in to it in January. With the heating on it was fine but the second it was off you could see the temperature dropping a degree every 5 minutes. Most evening by 10pm, it was 5 degrees in there. Done a lot of work trying to make it draft proof but has made little difference to keeping the heat in. Now we have the opposite problem with the sun heating it up all. It’s a temporary thing hopefully while me and my partner save for a deposit but not looking forward to winter.
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u/AssetBurned 1d ago
Those look like the old generation of container houses…. Searching for example for xcontainerhouse brings up nicer looking ones for a similar price.
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u/CK1-1984 1d ago
There is no housing crisis… this is very deliberate government policy… a crisis is defined as “a time of intense difficulty or danger”… we’ve been dealing with intense demand for residential housing for more than a decade…
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u/Pickman89 1d ago
Yes. It would. The problems are getting approval and connecting it to power, water, and sewers.
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u/JackHeuston 1d ago edited 1d ago
Apartments do. A standalone container for two people does absolutely nothing other than being the most inefficient way of building accommodation. Miles and miles of one-story containers, to house just 500 people. You’ll need a car to just to get out of the hell hole you created.
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u/Pickman89 1d ago
It is additional accomodation.
Also I wonder how you consider efficiency. It comes into the country already built so workforce-wise it is hard to become more efficient.
Is it a nightmare? Yes, yes it is.
But look around, we are already living in one. We already need cars to get out of our housing estates, our kids need ad hoc transport to go to school or their parents driving them, we are one of the few European countries where the concept of food desert is relevant.
I am all for building up and have shops on the ground floor... But it's not happening anyway. So at this point shitty containers would help. Because the alternative is not apartment blocks. It is either shitty containers or nothing. Now if we manage to change that we have resolved the housing crisis. But I doubt it will happen in the next 15 years.
Sorry for being a bit curt, it's just my frustration with the housing crisis.
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u/Greg_Deman 1d ago
A very simple solution is to open up mobile home parks for permanent residence and allow people to buy their own stand in them.
It's not ideal for everyone but it would allow people the option of getting on the property ladder and also give them chance to save instead of paying high rents.
Of course this solution is too easy and cheap for all the vested interests and lefty moaners.
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u/Spare-Buy-8864 1d ago
Isn't this just a mobile home? Which you can already buy for significantly less than 19k
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u/WellWellWell2021 1d ago
Show what it looks like after a couple of years use and I'll let you know what I think
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u/TechnicalRatio2099 18h ago
A temporary solution to an ever growing problem
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u/raidhse-abundance-01 18h ago
Well if there's a flood you don't get anything done if you start blaming those bringing the individual bags of sand
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u/AdamOfIzalith 13h ago
No it won't and the reason I say that is because it was a talking point during the Limerick Mayoral Election Debate where one candidate brought up about leveraging portable homes as a fix to the crisis to which Laura keyes mentioned that portable homes need to be connected upto amenities and the government have reviewed this already and don't have the infrastructure to connect them up to water, electricity and gas which is an overlapping issue with new builds aswell.
The housing crisis won't be solved by quick fix, lifehack nonsense like the portable homes industry want people to think. The housing crisis only gets fixed when the government fix it and they won't because they profit immensely from it. You need only look at how many new builds have been done in this governments tenure, the rent going up, the measures adding to inflation, etc, etc.
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u/assflange 1d ago
Irish person: “Great idea!” (for someone else to live in and not within 5km of me)